Them's Fightin' Herds/Velvet/Combos

Overview

Strategy

Combos

Notation Help
Disclaimer: Combos are written by various writers, so notation may differ slightly from this notation. For more information, see Cam's Notation and Input Primer
X+Y	Buttons "X" and "Y" must be input simultaneously.
X/Y	Input "X" or "Y" can be used.
>	Indicates a link. For example, Oleander 6C > 5A is a link.
dl.X	There should be delay before inputting "X".
W.X	Shanty specific, normals pressed during Wall mode.
j.X	Button "X" is input while jumping or in the air.
iad	An instant airdash, done by pressing 9 then 6, or 6 then 6 if already in the air.
jc	Jump cancel the previous action.
shjc	Shorthop jump cancel the previous action. Applicable to Arizona, Paprika and Shanty.
djc	Double jump cancel the previous action. Specific to Oleander.
md.X	Perform a micro-dash before performing "X".
tk.X	Indicates the motion "X" is input immediately after leaving the ground. Stands for tiger knee.
k.xx	Kara cancel, or cancelling into another move during startup of the initial move.
(X)	Input "X" is optional. Typically the combo will be easier if omitted.
[X]	Input "X" is held down. Also can be known as "Increase" or "IC" for short. Depending on the character, this can indicate that this button is held down and not released until indicated by the release notation.
]X[	Input "X" is released. Will only appear if a button is previously held down.
{X}	Button "X" should only be held down briefly to partially charge the attack, instead of the full increased version.
X(#)	Attack "X" should only hit # of times.
X~Y	This notation has two meanings. Use attack "X" with "Y" follow-up input. Input "X" then within a few frames, input "Y". Usually used for option selects.
CH	The first attack must be Counter Hit.
AA	The attack must be an Anti-Air.

Getting Started

How to use .TFHC Files

In one of the following tables, you can download a .tfhc file. This is a combo trial you can place into your game through Documents/My Games/Them's Fightin' Herds/combo. If you do not have a combo folder in the TFH game folder, create one. The file can then be accessed in-game through Practice mode. Once the practice fight is launched, go to the pause menu, and go to Combo Training > Combo Recording > Load Combo.

Console versions of TFH currently do not support combo file sharing, but you can still make your own locally. Due to this, video examples are, or will be included.

Enders

214A

This ender is mainly used to create distance.

214B

This ender is mainly used to tack on more damage. It also puts you at a nice midscreen distance to set up a projectile and threaten a meaty 2A/2B.

Super

Velvet's level 1 can be tacked onto the end of any combo with an already-existing ender for additional damage and Hard Knockdown.

3C

This is more of a layer-2 ender. It is most effective against delayed and no-tech, as it gives you time to set up to 3 projectiles (An air icicle, 2D, and ground icicle in that order). The opponent will be able to air tech after this ender, and you will only have time to set up one projectile in that case.

623A/623B

This one is a tad rarer, in fact you won't see any combos below that end in this, but it is unique in that it will send the opponent facing the other direction. The opponent will be stuck in that direction on wakeup, and this will persist if they act on the first frame. This means if the opponent air techs and presses a button, it will likely whiff entirely and net you a reset.

Combos

A Starters

Notation	Damage	Meter Gain	Location	Knockdown	Difficulty	Notes	Combo File	Video
5A 2B 5C 3C jc j.A j.B 2B 214B	744	0.33 S 0.7 M	Anywhere	379 JD HKD	Easy	Highest possible Juggle Decay before JDMax	.tfhc	Video
5A 2B 5C 3C jc j.A j.B 2C 5C 3C jc j.C 6A 5C 214B	969	0.4 S 1.2 M	Midscreen to Corner	Max JD SKD	Easy	Utilizes wallbounce, jC is used to properly space from corner	.tfhc	Video
5A 5A 2B 2C 623A md.6A 214C > 214A	903	0.30 S 0.7 M	Anywhere	Max JD SKD	Easy	Sends fullscreen	.tfhc	Video
5A 2B 2C 623A > md.5A 2C 3C 4D > 442B 5C 2C 3C 4D > 442B 5C 3C tk.214B	1199	0.40 S -0.5 M	Anywhere	Max JD SKD	Medium	Wind loops are good for getting a little extra damage for as little Magic as possible. More reps are possible if you have at least 2 Magic.	.tfhc	Video
5A 2B 2C 3C jc j.A j.B crossunder md.2B 2C 3C jc j.A j.B 2C 3C tk.214B	992	0.40 S 1.2 M	Anywhere except Corner	Max JD SKD	Medium	Meterless sideswitch. Instantly dash after the first landing.	.tfhc	Video
5A 2B 2C 623A > 2C 5C 3C 4D crossunder md.2B 214B	1037	0.32 S 0 M	Anywhere	Max JD SKD	Medium	Magic sideswitch.	.tfhc	Video
5A 2B 2C 623B > md.2B 2C 3C 1D 236C > 2B dl.6A tk.j.236C (236C Hit) > 5C 3C tk.236C (j.236C Hit) > md.6A 5C 3C (236C Hit) tk.214C > 214A	1486	0.50 S 0.5 M	Midscreen	Max JD SKD	Hard	3-rep icicle loops, AKA Velvet's infamous hard/optimal route. Route will be harder near the corner due to 1D's height relative to the near-corner opponent. More reps are possible.	.tfhc	Video
66 5A 2C 5C 623A > md.2B 2C 5C 623A > md.5A 2C 5C 3C jc j.C md.5C 3C tk.214B	1414	0.45 S 1.3 M	Roundstart to Corner	Max JD SKD	Hard	Optimal Roundstart A route.	.tfhc	Video
5A 2B 2C 623A > 2B 2C 5C 623A > md.5A 2C 5C 3C jc j.C j.236A > j.B 6A 236C (j.236A Hit) md.5C 2C 3C (236C Hit) tk.214C > 214A	1641	0.57 S 1.8 M	Corner	Max JD SKD	Hard	Ender can be changed for 214B. Half-circle must be input for 236C after 6A, otherwise 623C will input instead.	.tfhc	Video

B Starters

Notation	Damage	Meter Gain	Location	Knockdown	Difficulty	Notes	Combo File	Video
2B 5C 3C jc j.A j.B 2B 5C 214B	957	0.32 S 0.8 M	Anywhere	374 JD HKD	Easy	Highest juggle decay off 2B	.tfhc	Video
2B 2C 623B > md.2B 2C 5C 623A > 2B 5C 3C jc j.A j.B 2B 2C 5C 3C tk.214B	1603	0.45 S 1.2 M	Anywhere	Max JD SKD	Medium	Demonstrates 2x Eruption 2B link.	.tfhc	Video
2B 2C 623B > md.2B 2C 5C 3C jc j.A j.B 6A 236C > 5A 5C 3C tk.j236C (236C Hit) > 5C 3C tk.236C (j236C Hit) > md.6A 5C 3C (236C Hit) tk.214C > 214A	1795	0.55 S 1.9 M	Anywhere	Max JD SKD	Hard	Resourceless icicle loops.	.tfhc	Video
2B 2C 5C 3C tk.214B > 2B 2C 3C 3D 236C > 2B 2C dl.6A tk.j.236C (236C Hit) > 5C 3C tk.236C (j.236C Hit) > md.5C 3C tk.j.236C (236C Hit) > 5C 3C tk.236B (j.236C Hit) > 6A 3C tk.214C (236B Hit) 214A	2018	0.70 S 0.1 M	Corner	Max JD SKD	Very Hard	Optimal corner Icicle loops.	.tfhc	Video

C Starters

Notation	Damage	Meter Gain	Location	Knockdown	Difficulty	Notes	Combo File	Video
(tk.j236B) 2C dl.5C 236C (tk.j236B Hit) > md.2C 5C (236C Hit) > md.5C 623A > md.5A 2C 5C 3C jc j.C 5C 2C 3C tk.214B	1933	0.49 S 1.5 M	Midscreen to corner	Max JD SKD	Medium	Midscreen to corner carry. Gives an idea of how to time icicles in combos, using the most important one for neutral, TK Icicle B, as an example.	.tfhc	Video
2C 623A > 2C 5C 623A > 2B 2C 5C 623A > 2B 5C 2C 3C jc j.C j.236A > j.B 6A 236C > (j.236A Hit) md.5C 2C 3C (236C Hit) tk.214C > 214A	2299	0.58 S 1.8 M	Corner	Max JD SKD	Hard	Optimal resourceless corner damage	.tfhc	Video
(tk.j236B) 2C 5C 236C (tk.j236B Hit) > md.5C 214B (236C Hit) md.5C 2C 3C jc j.C j.236A > j.B 6A 236C (j.236A Hit) md.5C 2C 3C (236C Hit) tk.214C > 214B 236XX	2485 (2670 CH)	-0.5 S 2.4 M	Corner	Max JD HKD	Hard	Corner punish, TK Icicle B can be summoned for big punishes on moves like Shanty Level 1.	.tfhc	Video
2C 623B 5C 2C 623D [ 662B 5C 623D ] x3 2B 2C 3C jc j.C j.236A j.B 6A 236C (j.236A Hit) 665C 2C 3C (236C Hit) tk.214C > 214A	2583	0.7 S -2.8 M	Corner	Max JD SKD	Hard	DP loops, done primarily to build meter, does decent damage too.	.tfhc	Video
(tk.j236B) 2C 5C 236C > (tk.j236B Hit) md.2B 5B(1) 6A tk.j236B > (236C Hit) 2B 2C 5C 236C > (j236B Hit) 5A 2C 3C (236C Hit) tk.214C > 214A 236XX	2094	-0.55 S 1.2 M	Corner	Max JD HKD	Very Hard	Grounded icicle loops. Made possible due to 2B->5B being chainable as of v3.1, and vice versa.	.tfhc	Video
(tk.j236B) 2C 5C 236C > (tk.j236B Hit) md.2B 5B(1) 6A tk.j236B > (236C Hit) 2B 2C 5C 236B > (j236B Hit) md.5C 3C tk.214B (236B Hit) 236XX	1955	-0.60 S 1.1 M	Anywhere	HKD	Very Hard	Universal version of grounded icicle loops.	.tfhc	Video
2C 623B > 5C 2C 214B > 5A 2B 5C 623D > md.2B 5C 623D > 2B 2C 3C jc j.C j.236A > j.B 6A 236C > (j.236A Hit) md.5C 2C 3C tk.214C > 214B 236XX 214XX > md.214A 6[D] 1D 6A 214A 6D 236XX	3363	-2.94 S -5.2 M	Corner	Max JD HKD	Very Hard	Optimal resource dump. Demonstrates 214B link to 5A, 623D loops with new -6 recovery, icicle loops, and Wind loops.	.tfhc	Video

Anti-Air Starters

Notation	Damage	Meter Gain	Location	Knockdown	Difficulty	Notes	Combo File	Video
AA 5C 214A 4D 5A 5C 3C jc j.A j.B 2C 5C 3C jc j.C md.5C 3C tk.214B	1523	0.36 S 0.5 M	Midscreen to corner	Max JD SKD	Medium	Demonstrates 5C anti-air pickup and link off 4D.	.tfhc	Video
AA 6A dl.2C 5C 623A > md.5A 2C 3C 1D 236C > 2B dl.6A tk.j.236C > (236C Hit) 5C 3C tk.236C > (j.236C Hit) md.6A 5C 3C > (236C Hit) tk.214C > 214A	1674	0.5 S 0.5 M	Anywhere except Corner	Max JD SKD	Hard	6A version of Icicle loops.	.tfhc	Video
(tk.j236B) AA 2C 5C 236C > (tk.j236B Hit) md.2B 2C 5C (236C Hit) md.5C 3C jc j.C md.5C 2C 3C tk.214B	1716	0.40 S 1.5 M	Midscreen to corner	Max JD SKD	Hard	Anti-air 2C combo with pre-emptive icicle.	.tfhc	Video

Special Starters

Notation	Damage	Meter Gain	Location	Knockdown	Difficulty	Notes	Combo File	Video
tk.j.236C 3D 623C (3D Hit) (j.236C Hit)	767	0.1 S -0.6 M	Fullscreen	195 JD SKD	Easy	Demonstrates confirm off zoning	.tfhc	Video

Magic Starters

Notation	Damage	Meter Gain	Location	Knockdown	Difficulty	Notes	Combo File	Video
5D 623C k.xx 236XX 214XX 5D 4D > md.5C 623B > md.2B 2C 5C 3C jc j.A j.B 2B 2C 5C 3C tk.214B	1422	-1.6 S 1.0 M	Fullscreen	Max JD SKD	Medium	Demonstrates 5D into 623C and kara cancelling 623C into Super.	.tfhc	Video