Your best friend even in the most basic of combos.
Your best friend even in the most basic of combos. From being the only special in a combo, a starter, in your ender, to an extender, 236X(X) is a solid combo tool all around due to its versatility.
'''236X''' has two parts to the move: the initial projectile and its follow-up.
'''{{clr|17|236B}}''':
'''{{clr|17|236B}}''':
* Simple, reliable, fed my family. This is the one.
* Simple, reliable, fed my family. This is the one.
* Its completely straight path makes it incredibly easy to work with in combos.
* Its completely straight path makes it incredibly easy to work with in combos.
* Wallbounces, giving the projectile without a follow-up a solid application if you use it near/'''in the corner'''.
'''{{clr|16|236A}}''':
'''{{clr|16|236A}}''':
* Scales damage slightly worse than 236B. Used primarily in enders to avoid SMP.
* Scales damage slightly worse than '''{{clr|17|236B}}'''. Used primarily in enders to avoid SMP.
* Does also have use in very specific combos where (j.)236B drops.
* Does also have use in very specific combos where '''(j.){{clr|17|236B}}''' drops.
* Its angle can be a bit awkward to time the followup in an ender.
* Its angle can be a bit awkward to time the follow-up.
'''236XX''' is a dash forward with a hitbox and can cross-up. Outside of the corner, you will near always want to use the follow-up since it is the only way you can consistently and meterlessly extend combos midscreen. The version of the projectile you used does not change or affect the follow-up directly, but the angle of the '''{{clr|16|236A}}''' can make the follow-up whiff at certain heights and timings.
* Extensions with grounded '''236XX''' will have you link into a normal like 5B or 5A in order to maintain the combo.
** As of 1.4.0, you can also extend with '''{{clr|16|22A}}''' for extra damage.
* Aerial '''236XX''' can be jump cancelled. TKing this motion is one half of Dead Apostle Noel's most important combo element: '''Double TK'''
'''236X~4X''' is almost never used in combos and never used in optimal combos. Its weird angle and the fact it sends you high up into the air makes it impractical to use in combos. The move shares an animation with j.214X, a move with far more practical application in combos.
'''tk.236XX > tk.214X'''. The lifeblood of many of Dead Apostle Noel's combos. The most bang-for-your-buck combo element that works in pretty much any combo. '''Due to this, it is pretty much essential to learn at some point or later.'''
The lifeblood of many of Dead Apostle Noel's combos, '''Double TK: tk.236XX > tk.214X'''. The most bang-for-your-buck combo element that she has. Great damage (relatively), great meter build, and incredibly consistent. Most of your combos will use the {{clr|17|B}} version of both '''tk.236XX''' and '''tk.214X'''. The {{clr|16|A}} versions are mostly used in combos where the {{clr|17|B}} version would not hit due to high scaling. Examples include off '''22X''' combos and '''{{clr|19|Shield}} {{clr|16|A}}''' optimals.
Midscreen, your intention with Double TK is to box your opponent in with the follow-up of tk.236XX
Midscreen, your intention with '''Double TK''' always is to box your opponent in by crossing up with the follow-up of '''tk.236XX'''. This allows you to jump cancel the follow up into '''tk.214X''' once it hits which ground bounces your opponent. You can still apply '''Double TK''' in the '''corner'''. Using {{clr|18|5[C]}} to vacuum your opponent out of the corner will allow you to swiftly execute the follow-up of '''tk.236XX''' to steal the corner early on in your combo, while delaying the follow-up will keep your opponent against the wall and '''tk.214X''' will hit regardless.
22X was given jump cancel properties in the 1.4.0 patch of the game, transforming it into a '''very''' useful tool to squeeze extra damage out of combos.
'''22X''' was given jump cancel properties in the 1.4.0 patch of the game, transforming it into a '''very''' useful tool to squeeze extra damage out of combos.
While incredibly rare, you are able to use 214X in combos. The scaling from all the extra moves can result in combos using 214X routing being less damaging, but it is not damage that these routes seek. The main draw of using 214X in combos is meter gain. The more developed 214X routes will result in you being meter positive due to all the multi-hitting special moves present in the routes, less developed routes will still have decent meter build. '''At the moment, 214X routes are heavily unexplored.'''
While incredibly rare, you are able to use '''214X''' in combos. The scaling from all the extra moves can result in combos using 214X routing being less damaging, but it is not damage that these routes seek. The main draw of using '''214X''' in combos is meter gain. The more developed '''214X''' routes will result in you being meter positive due to all the multi-hitting special moves present in the routes, less developed routes will still have decent meter build. '''At the moment, 214X routes are heavily unexplored.'''
'''{{clr|16|214A}}''':
'''{{clr|16|214A}}''':
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* The Bigfoot combo tool. Routes with {{clr|17|214B}} are incredibly rare and don't exist within practical means
* The Bigfoot combo tool. Routes with {{clr|17|214B}} are incredibly rare and don't exist within practical means
* Its distance from Noel and startup time make comboing into it difficult, but not impossible
* Its distance from Noel and startup time make comboing into it difficult, but not impossible
** You can partially charge 6C to make both bells multihit the flying opponent, giving you enough time to detonate with 22A
** You can partially charge {{clr|18|6C}} to make both bells multihit the flying opponent, giving you enough time to detonate with {{clr|16|22A}}
Dead Apostle Noel has two cinematic launchers: those being the universal {{clr|19|Shield}} {{clr|16|A}} counter and {{clr|18|3C}}. While you can certainly use these launchers into air throw, you will lose out on your oki, so it's important to bring your opponent to the ground in order to end your combo with {{clr|18|214C}}. Due to hitstun scaling, you are able to apply {{clr|19|Shield}} {{clr|16|A}} structure to {{clr|18|3C}} combos, but not vice-versa.
Dead Apostle Noel has two cinematic launchers: those being the universal {{clr|19|Shield}} {{clr|16|A}} counter and {{clr|18|3C}}. While you can certainly use these launchers into air throw, you will lose out on your oki, so it's important to bring your opponent to the ground in order to end your combo with {{clr|18|214C}}. Due to hitstun scaling, you are able to apply {{clr|19|Shield}} {{clr|16|A}} structure to {{clr|18|3C}} combos, but not vice-versa.
Say you have your opponent in the corner, be it pushing them there from closer to midscreen or they’re just in the corner. You can quickly perform a midscreen Double TK combo that steals the corner very early on but that's not the greatest in terms of damage. You’re going to want to steal the corner at some point, as doing 214C with your opponent’s back up against the wall entirely means you lose out on your most potent oki options, but to keep them there as best and as long as you can to reap the benefits like higher average damage combos, you’re gonna have to think a little bit differently.
Say you have your opponent in the corner, be it pushing them there from closer to midscreen or they’re just in the corner. You can quickly perform a midscreen '''Double TK''' combo that steals the corner very early on but that's not the greatest in terms of damage. You’re going to want to steal the corner at some point, as doing '''{{clr|18|214C}}''' with your opponent’s back up against the wall entirely means you lose out on your most potent '''{{clr|18|214C}}''' oki options, but to keep them there as best and as long as you can to reap the benefits like higher average damage combos, you’re gonna have to think a little bit differently.
In the corner, you have access to doing just tk.236B and 236B with no followup. The wall bounce gives you enough time to recover/land and pick up with your ender. The same logic runs for using 6C. The wall allows the far-flinging, wall bouncing projectiles to be introduced into combos for more damage and potentially meter build. Your string of normals in the ender are almost always going to end with 2C > 5[C] due to its vacuum effect allowing you to steal the corner for proper oki setup. It’s very simple, but it’s safe, consistent and ends up being pretty freeform and more optimal than just running your midscreen combos in the corner.
In the corner, you have access to doing just '''{{clr|17|tk.236B}}''' and '''{{clr|17|236B}}''' with no followup. The wall bounce gives you enough time to recover/land and pick up with your ender. The same logic runs for using '''{{clr|18|6[C]}}'''. The wall allows you to use the far-flinging, wall bouncing projectile to be introduced into combos for more damage and potentially meter build. Your string of normals in the ender are almost always going to end with '''{{clr|18|2C}}''' > '''{{clr|18|5[C]}}''' due to its vacuum effect allowing you to steal the corner for proper oki setup. It’s very simple, but it’s safe, consistent and ends up being pretty freeform and more optimal than just running your midscreen combos in the corner.
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=== Enders ===
At the end of the day, Dead Apostle Noel is a character that heavily revolves around a specific setup, so her enders are all going to be a slightly different means to a similar end. The primary purpose of the ender is to keep your opponent suspended in the air, in hitstun, and close to you so you can use 236XX to cross up and set up your oki. Your optimal ender will depend on a lot but primarily the normals you used due to Same Move Proration. In many of the combos on this page, the enders are mostly interchangeable at the cost of damage, though some may be incompatible with your route due to primarily range. Having Rapid Beat on in any capacity is highly recommended for Dead Apostle Noel, as her unique Rapid Beat normal is crucial in many enders due to its advancing properties.
'''The following is a table of a few, not all, common enders:'''
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| notes = *Used to end combos that did not already use {{clr|18|2C}}>{{clr|18|5[C]}}
*{{clr|18|2C}}'s far reach makes this ender a potential option to salvage combos if you landed too far from the opponent to pick up with the optimal ender
| notes = *Steals the corner to allow for proper {{clr|18|214C}} oki
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236XX needs the followup to be delayed so that the opponent gets caught under the closest {{clr|18|214C}} bell to Dead Apostle Noel, the timing is usually ~17 frames. If done correctly, you should be able to under to run under the opponent as they bounce from the {{clr|18|214C}}, where you would then detonate with {{clr|17|22B}} from around the center bell and run your mixups. Doing it too slow won’t cross over the opponent and will get {{clr|18|236C}} from the {{clr|18|214C}} input. Doing it too fast will have the opponent closer to the center bell and you will be unable to run under, which eliminates the threat of both long dash into grab and the signature unreactable crossup break, severely nerfing your oki’s potential.
====Alternate EX Enders====
If you want to do more damage to ensure a kill that {{clr|18|214C}} by itself may not allow, there are a few alternatives depending on how much meter you have available. Know that if it doesn’t kill, you will forfeit your oki and be in a lesser (but still plus) position than if you were to do the normal {{clr|18|214C}} ender.
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| combo = {{clr|18|236C}}/{{clr|18|623C}}
| cost = 1 Magic Circuit
| notes = *Does ~100-200 more damage than {{clr|18|214C}} as an ender.
The lifeblood of many of Dead Apostle Noel's combos. When combined with 2C>5[C], this piece will work with pretty much every possible normal starter. Due to this, it is pretty much essential to learn at some point or later.
It is important to correctly time the followup of tk.214B in such a way that you cross over the opponent, but don't end up too far that you wouldn't be able to hit them with the best ender. This depends on how far you are from the opponent.
In more advanced combos, you will find that you will need to use tk.214A instead due to hitstun scaling.
An incredibly niche piece with tough timing to boot. In the combos it's featured in, it does less damage for more meter build. It is not recommended to try this in a real match.
The 6C needs to be partially charged so the 214B hits with both spikes.
After tk.236[B] you will need to run under so you can catch the opponent with tk.214A.
Your best friend even in the most basic of combos. From being the only special in a combo, a starter, in your ender, to an extender, 236X(X) is a solid combo tool all around due to its versatility.
236X has two parts to the move: the initial projectile and its follow-up.
236B:
Simple, reliable, fed my family. This is the one.
Its completely straight path makes it incredibly easy to work with in combos.
Wallbounces, giving the projectile without a follow-up a solid application if you use it near/in the corner.
236A:
Scales damage slightly worse than 236B. Used primarily in enders to avoid SMP.
Does also have use in very specific combos where (j.)236B drops.
Its angle can be a bit awkward to time the follow-up.
236XX is a dash forward with a hitbox and can cross-up. Outside of the corner, you will near always want to use the follow-up since it is the only way you can consistently and meterlessly extend combos midscreen. The version of the projectile you used does not change or affect the follow-up directly, but the angle of the 236A can make the follow-up whiff at certain heights and timings.
Extensions with grounded 236XX will have you link into a normal like 5B or 5A in order to maintain the combo.
As of 1.4.0, you can also extend with 22A for extra damage.
Aerial 236XX can be jump cancelled. TKing this motion is one half of Dead Apostle Noel's most important combo element: Double TK
236X~4X is almost never used in combos and never used in optimal combos. Its weird angle and the fact it sends you high up into the air makes it impractical to use in combos. The move shares an animation with j.214X, a move with far more practical application in combos.
The lifeblood of many of Dead Apostle Noel's combos, Double TK: tk.236XX > tk.214X. The most bang-for-your-buck combo element that she has. Great damage (relatively), great meter build, and incredibly consistent. Most of your combos will use the B version of both tk.236XX and tk.214X. The A versions are mostly used in combos where the B version would not hit due to high scaling. Examples include off 22X combos and ShieldA optimals.
Midscreen, your intention with Double TK always is to box your opponent in by crossing up with the follow-up of tk.236XX. This allows you to jump cancel the follow up into tk.214X once it hits which ground bounces your opponent. You can still apply Double TK in the corner. Using 5[C] to vacuum your opponent out of the corner will allow you to swiftly execute the follow-up of tk.236XX to steal the corner early on in your combo, while delaying the follow-up will keep your opponent against the wall and tk.214X will hit regardless.
While incredibly rare, you are able to use 214X in combos. The scaling from all the extra moves can result in combos using 214X routing being less damaging, but it is not damage that these routes seek. The main draw of using 214X in combos is meter gain. The more developed 214X routes will result in you being meter positive due to all the multi-hitting special moves present in the routes, less developed routes will still have decent meter build. At the moment, 214X routes are heavily unexplored.
214A:
The main one
The fast recovery of 214A makes linking into 2C for a non-MD route relatively lenient
214B:
The Bigfoot combo tool. Routes with 214B are incredibly rare and don't exist within practical means
Its distance from Noel and startup time make comboing into it difficult, but not impossible
You can partially charge 6C to make both bells multihit the flying opponent, giving you enough time to detonate with 22A
Dead Apostle Noel has two cinematic launchers: those being the universal ShieldA counter and 3C. While you can certainly use these launchers into air throw, you will lose out on your oki, so it's important to bring your opponent to the ground in order to end your combo with 214C. Due to hitstun scaling, you are able to apply ShieldA structure to 3C combos, but not vice-versa.
Say you have your opponent in the corner, be it pushing them there from closer to midscreen or they’re just in the corner. You can quickly perform a midscreen Double TK combo that steals the corner very early on but that's not the greatest in terms of damage. You’re going to want to steal the corner at some point, as doing 214C with your opponent’s back up against the wall entirely means you lose out on your most potent 214C oki options, but to keep them there as best and as long as you can to reap the benefits like higher average damage combos, you’re gonna have to think a little bit differently.
In the corner, you have access to doing just tk.236B and 236B with no followup. The wall bounce gives you enough time to recover/land and pick up with your ender. The same logic runs for using 6[C]. The wall allows you to use the far-flinging, wall bouncing projectile to be introduced into combos for more damage and potentially meter build. Your string of normals in the ender are almost always going to end with 2C > 5[C] due to its vacuum effect allowing you to steal the corner for proper oki setup. It’s very simple, but it’s safe, consistent and ends up being pretty freeform and more optimal than just running your midscreen combos in the corner.
236X
Double TK
623X
22X
214X
Launchers
Corner