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Revision as of 11:26, 4 June 2024

Nakanishi Sisters

Estimated Health (After Scaling): 11672

Introduction

Nakanishi is a puppet character where the ability to control both characters will be essential to utilizing this character well. This is a very difficult character to use well, but has some strong options should you get it right.

The Nakanishi sisters are a pair of students that have a strong sense of justice. Annoyed by the way Seijou Academy is being run, they team up with Rouga Zanma in order to fight against Agito of the Dark. Kendou is the more outspoken of the two sisters, and is always looking for a good challenge, while Kyuudou is extremely soft-spoken and hesitant. However, as a team, they are all but unstoppable.

General Strategy

Using the Nakanishi sisters effectively is much like using Carl Clover from Blazblue--because you're controlling two characters at once, being able to coordinate their movements is key to winning matches. Unlike Carl, Kendou can take care of herself without Kyuudou's help, but like Carl, her overall flexibility and playability will suffer if Kyuudou is not involved in the fight.

Most of the time, Kyuudou's arrows can be used as situational pokes from long range, disrupting an enemy's attacks. That in turn enables Kendou to get in close and do some damage. Especially conducive to this strategy is the fact that Kendou and Kyuudou can use super moves separately, allowing either twin to open up the enemy for an attack from the other one.

Kendou's shinai give her a much longer range for some of her pokes, and once she gets a combo started it's usually child's play to set up for a special, usually 236C or 214C. 41236A/B is also an option if you still need to close the distance, but whatever attack you use after the charge has to be spot on, or the combo will drop and Kendou will be left open.

Kendou's supers are usually used in tandem with Kyuudou's due to their poor horizontal range and semi-long startup, though they can be part of a Kendou-only combo if the opponent is relatively close. 22D can be used to stop dash-ins if timed correctly, and 623D is a fairly workable anti-air in its own right.

Normal Moves

Standing Normals

5A
5A
BBBR Nakanishi 5A.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
150 Mid - - - - - N, Sp, Su

Quick jab. Range is extremely long for an A normal, going even farther than her 5B, making it an excellent poke. Has use as an anti-air at certain ranges due to being air-unblockable. Frame data on block is significantly worse than her 2A.

5B
5B
BBBR Nakanishi 5B.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
500 Mid - - - - - J, N, Sp, Su

Horizontal slash. Slower than 5A and has worse range and recovery, so it shouldn't be used as your go-to poke, but it's useful as combo filler. Air-unblockable.

5C
5C
BBBR Nakanishi 5C.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
800 Mid - - - - - J, N, Sp, Su

Kendou steps forward while swinging her sword in a downwards arc. Horizontal range is good, and its vertical range complements its air-unblockable properties nicely. However, its slow speed and horrible recovery if whiffed renders it a tool that requires thoughtful use in neutral. Sends airborne opponents straight downwards, which is useful in some combo routes.

Crouching Normals

2A
2A
BBBR Nakanishi 2A.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
100 Low - - - - - N, Sp, Su

A quick sword swipe at the opponent's ankles. Great range for an A normal, although 5A outclasses it in that department. Useful in the same ways that any fast, low-hitting move is.

2B
2B
BBBR Nakanishi 2B.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
600 Mid - - - - - J, N, Sp, Su

Kendou stabs towards the opponent while crouching. Goes farther than her 5A and is only slightly slower, so it's a great poke. Recovery is notably worse though, so use with caution. Does not hit low, in spite of what the animation might suggest.

2C
2C
BBBR Nakanishi 2C.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
750 Mid - - - - - Sp, Su

Kendou swings both swords in an upwards arc. It's air unblockable and has a very tall hitbox, so it's one of your best anti-air options. Will launch the opponent upwards, giving it useful combo potential, but its horizontal hitbox can cause inconsistency at anything but point-blank range.

Air Normals

jA
jA
BBBR Nakanishi jA.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
150 High/Air - - - - - N, Sp, Su

A fast air jab. Horizontal range is poor and vertical range is nonexistent, so you won't be landing this on a crouching opponent. Only real use is as your fastest air-to-air or in combos.

jB
jB
BBBR Nakanishi jB.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
500 High/Air - - - - - N, Sp, Su

Horizontal sword swipe in the air. Hitbox is dramatically better than j.A's in all ways, so it's actually functional as a jump-in. Also helps Kendou control the space in front of her when she's airborne.

jC
jC
BBBR Nakanishi jC.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
900 High/Air - - - - - Sp, Su

A downward slash with both shinai. Vertical hitbox extends a good range below Kendou, so it's a good jump-in. Has a lot of hitstun and sends airborne opponents straight downwards, so it's good for starting, extending, and ending combos. It's slower than her other air normals, but still very useful.

Universal Mechanics

5D
Kyuudou: Teihei Shageki
5D
BBBR Nakanishi 5D.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
200 All - - - - - NC

After drawing her bow, Kyuudou fires an arrow horizontally from her current position. The arrow travels about 3/4 of the screen, quickly losing altitude until it hits the ground. Pressing 5D does not cause Kendou to perform any animation, so it can be done any time you aren't in hitstun, blockstun, or knocked down. This move is an integral part of the Nakanishi sisters' kit that helps define their gameplan, since it lets them cover space very effectively, while also allowing for deadly combo extensions with proper execution.

2D
Kyuudou: Kyokusha
2D
BBBR Nakanishi 2D.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
300/800 All - - - - - -

Kyuudou fires an arrow in an upwards arc, which then comes back down after a brief delay. Has a hitbox both when going up and when falling down, but it'll only ever hit once, and you'll probably never hit anyone with it until after it begins descending. Can be executed in the exact same contexts as her other D moves. Serves as an alternative to 5D that covers more vertical space, but the extremely precise horizontal distance it travels from Kyuudou's position makes it harder to use. If she's near the corner when she shoots, the arrow will always land in the corner instead of off-screen, so it becomes easier to position there.

4/6D
Kyuudou: Idou Hidari/Migi
4/6D
BBBR Nakanishi 46D.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
N/A - - - - - - -

Kyuudou walks forwards or backwards a set distance depending on the direction held. Her walk speed is faster than Kendou's, but slower than her run speed and much slower than her backdash. Kyuudou will never change her location on the screen except for when this move is performed, so you'll have to use it repeatedly throughout the match in order to get her into a useful position. Can be performed in the same contexts as 5D and 2D, and it can be interrupted with those moves as well.

Throw
Throw
4/5AB
BBBR Nakanishi ThrowWhiff.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
1000 Unblockable - - - - - NC

Kendou grabs the opponent and throws them upwards. She can combo off of this meterlessly by linking into 5A, or by having her sister's arrow catch the opponent shortly after she hits them. This results in the Nakanishis' strike-throw pressure being very potent, since the consequences of failing to tech a throw are worse than many other characters.

Big Bang Mode
Big Bang Mode
ABC
BBBR Nakanishi BBM.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
N/A - - - - - - -

Universal Big Bang Mode activation. Requires 3 bars and can be done anytime you have control on the ground. Lasts for about 7 seconds.

Special Moves

41236X
Fumikomi
41236A/B
BBBR Nakanishi 41236X.png
Version Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
A 400 All - - - - - Sp, Su

Kendou performs a shoulder tackle from a crouching position. Can be cancelled into any of her other special moves and supers except for 41236B, allowing for a combo, although if cancelled into too soon they may whiff. This version of the move has faster startup, but travels less distance. Unsafe on block if not cancelled or covered with an arrow from Kyuudou. Not the greatest neutral tool and inflicts notable scaling on combos. Since its 214[C] cancel is an overhead and 236C is a low, you could theoretically use this to get close to the opponent in pressure to threaten high/low mix, but fully charged 214[C] is far too slow for this to actually be useful.

Version Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
B 400 All - - - - - Sp, Su

Kendou performs the same attack as 41236A, but with a longer startup and travel distance. Same cancel rules apply. The startup is usually too long to be able to take advantage of its longer range, so it's even more niche than the A version.

236C
Nagiharau
236C
BBBR Nakanishi 236C.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
800 Low/Air - - - - - NC

Kendou winds back, and then performs a fierce swing of her shinai at the opponent's legs. It's a little slow, but the horizontal range is quite good, and it's her farthest reaching low. Causes a knockdown and can not be cancelled, although it can technically be comboed off of with a precisely timed Kyuudou arrow. Unsafe on block without being covered by an attack from her sister, but the pushback could make it difficult to punish at farther ranges. Situationally useful.

214C
Kyouda
214C
BBBR Nakanishi 214C.png
Version Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
C 700 Mid - - - - - Su

Kendou winds up and then swings her sword downwards. Causes a knockdown on aerial opponents, so it can be used as a combo ender if you don't have a better option. Horizontal range is mediocre, covering a smaller distance than her 2A does. Air unblockable but hard to use as an anti-air, and unsafe on block, so it really only exists as a prerequisite for 214{C}.

Version Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
{C} 900 Mid - - - - - Su

Partially charged version of 214C. This version will come out if you release C as soon as the circular flash appears by Kendou's hand, which happens quite quickly. It still hits mid like its predecessor, but it does more damage and is safe on block, unlike her other special moves. Causes a groundbounce on aerial opponents, which is useful for combos.

Version Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
[C] 900 High - - - - - Su

Fully charged version of 214C. Does the same amount of damage as 214{C}, but is now an overhead. This could be used for high-low mix, but due to the extremely long charge time, you'll never open anyone up with this. Causes a groundbounce on both grounded and aerial opponents, but you won't be comboing into it either. If you do somehow land this, it can be converted into high damage.

623C
Noboridou
623C
BBBR Nakanishi 623C.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
800 Mid - - - - - -

Kendou jumps straight up with her sword extended. A classic DP, featuring air-unblockable properties. However, it isn't invincible, so it's not a great way to escape pressure. Probably her best anti-air option, even though it's highly commital.

B-Power Arts

22D
Kasanedou
22D
BBBR Nakanishi 22D.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
1400 - - - - - - -

Kendou swings down both shinai, creating a crossing pair of waves. This move groundbounces on hit, making it both a combo starter and extender, as well as doing a good chunk of damage. Safe on block, but you're probably better off using 41236D to be plus instead of just safe if you're willing to spend meter. Not invincible.

623D
Shin Noboridou
623D
BBBR Nakanishi 623C.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
700*3 (1785) Mid - - - - - NC

Kendou performs her 623C, and then follows it with an upwards slash and then a downwards slam. The downwards slam knocks down the opponent, but it can whiff if they were too high when the move was performed. Air unblockable, but since it isn't invincible you might as well just use 623C instead. Meter would probably be better spent on one of Kyuudou's supers.

41236D
Yaezakura
41236D
BBBR Nakanishi 5D.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
600*5 (2472) All - - - - - NC

Kyuudou fires a powerful arrow straight across the screen. EX version of 5D with faster startup and much higher damage. Also lacks 5D's drop in altitude; this arrow will always go from Kyuudou's position straight to the end of the screen. Can deal up to 5 hits, but this is heavily dependent on range, so you'll usually only see 4. Input is based on the direction Kendou is facing, not Kyuudou. Allows Kendou to become plus on block no matter what she's doing since it doesn't require her to perform an animation, and can be used to extend combos as well. Likely the Nakanishis' best way to spend meter.

63214D
Kasezakura
63214D
BBBR Nakanishi 2D.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
700 All - - - - - -

Kyuudou fires 4 arrows upwards, which then rain down in evenly-spaced locations across the screen. EX version of 2D that lets it control far more space. The opponent can fit within the gaps between the arrows, and it has much more startup time than 41236D, so it's harder to use than Kyuudou's other metered move, but it will still heavily restrict their movement. When Kyuudou is close to the corner, the arrows will stack on top of each other in order to avoid going offscreen, so it's easier to use there. Another super with great utility.

Big Bang Break

41236ABC
Shimai no Kizuna
41236ABC
BBBR Nakanishi 236C.png
Damage Guard Property Startup Active Recovery Block Adv Cancel
- All - - - - - -

Kendou does a Nagiharau, which starts a sequence of rapid attacks by both sisters if it hits. This is a great combo ender in Big Bang Mode, especially if you're aiming to kill. Can only be used when Kyuudou is free to act, so not immediately after she fires. Startup is not invincible.

Combos

Combo Theory

  • Combo damage varies from character to character, so all damage numbers come from testing on a full-health Rouga.
  • Kendou is actually quite capable of doing damage on her own, without using Kyuudou.
  • Learn her solo routes first, and then learn how to position Kyuudou and time her attacks to extend them.
  • 5C and 214{C} will cause groundbounces on airborne opponents. 3 bounces will force your combo to end.
  • Feel free to add any combos you find here!

Midscreen, no Kyuudou

  • 5A/2A > 5B > (5C) > 2C > 214{C}, 5B > (5C) > j.B > j.C (2634)
  • Simple, meterless combo that does not use Kyuudou. It's better to charge 214{C} for slightly too long than to accidentally get uncharged 214C, as that will end your combo instantly. 2C is prone to whiffing if the opponent is pushed back too far, so skip the first 5C if you start your combo any further than point-blank range. Against many characters such as Ren and Kunagi, you will need to skip the second 5C as well.

Corner, no Kyuudou

  • WIP

Midscreen, with Kyuudou

  • WIP

Corner, with Kyuudou

  • WIP

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