Jackie Chan in Fists of Fire/Yeung/Strategy
Strategy & Matchups
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Yeung is the game's primary zoner. She can keep the opponent away with far reaching moves like 2LP, 2HP, far 5HP, 6HP, and 236LP. She also has decent movement and can threaten the opponent with a dash in 2LK or throw.
236LP can be a frustrating move for the opponent to deal with, as it hits overhead and is plus on block. It doesn't hit at close range, however, so the opponent may try to force their way in with dashes while stopping to block high. To catch stand blocking opponents, Yeung can poke with 2HP or 2HK. Unfortunately, most of Yeung's moves other than 236LP are negative on block (and often on hit), allowing the opponent to close the distance. In a game where many characters can kill in one or two openings, this is a huge disadvantage, so Yeung players should try not to rely too heavily these moves.
Whenever possible, resetting to neutral is a better option than engaging in a close range scramble. Using a safe defensive blockstring to push the opponent away is better than cornering yourself with backdashes. Even if you eat some counterhits in the process, anything is better than letting the opponent knock you down.
Be careful when attempting to use throw; a whiffed forward throw will result in 6HP coming out, which completely misses a close range opponent. Therefore, a back throw is much less risky to attempt, since you will get a close or far 5HP (depending on what the opponent does).
5HK is by far Yeung's most reliable AA normal. It has a whopping 9 active frames and does not extend a hurtbox upward. The only downside is that it is not special cancellable, and her HP buttons are unlikely to juggle afterward, so the damage on the first AA juggle is lackluster.
6HK surprisingly has a great AA hitbox during its early active frames, directly above Yeung. Coupled with its forward movement, it may dodge the jumpin even if the hitbox misses. Far 5LK can be used in a similar manner to 5HK, but its faster speed comes with a much weaker hitbox.
If an opponent jumps from very far away or you backdash at the beginning of their jump, far 5HP is a solid AA because it doesn't extend a forward hitbox. It may also juggle into 5HK or 6HK depending on the range. Be careful of an opponent empty jumping, however, as it may cause far 5HP to whiff, leaving Yeung open for a punish. Jump back LP may also work as a far range air-to-air, but this will cause Yeung to corner herself for very little reward so it is not recommended.
41236K (Flip Kick) is a serviceable anti-air, but nowhere near as good as the animation suggests. Starting with a normal AA is generally preferable. 63214P (Crane Wings) can also work as a close range AA since it has a hitbox behind Yeung, but the active frames are a bit awkward and may miss the opponent entirely. The initial flip kick of Yeung's Super can AA, but the followup will drop so it is one of the weakest possible options.
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Important punishes: 236LK (LK Dragon Kick): Throw (if done at close range) 236HK (HK Dragon Kick): Full combo punish 623P (Rising Dragon): Full combo punish Super (close range, block): block, then dash up into BnB combo Super (slightly farther, block): 63214LP can punish if slightly too far for dash up 2LK Super (close range): 41236HK during Super freeze can dodge, beat, or favorably trade with Super at some ranges; test out the distances
vs. Wakeup LK the first hit must be stand blocked vs. Wakeup HK despite the sweep animation, this does not hit low. The 2 hits are a true blockstring, and are safe at -2 on block.
Luckily, Lau is one of the easier characters to land a Shadow Yeung TOD on (and even regular Yeung can land an air stomp TOD near the corner). Against Lau players that are overconfident in their approach, you can quickly end them with one optimized combo. Unfortunately, a Lau that plays safely and defensively is almost impossible to land the TOD on, so this only slightly improves the matchup. Counterpokes -- Yeung's lights tend to get stuffed by Lau's, but far 5HP can contest his buttons. 236LP can safely hop over a lot of Lau's options and punish him, but don't use from too close or he can dash through for a round-ending punish. Yeung's 6HK can also hop over Lau's low pokes, but can be throw punished if blocked. |
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Important punishes 6HK: 41236LK reliably punishes a blocked overhead 63214LP (LP Crane Wings): Can punish with your own 63214LP on block, unless at max range due to pushback 63214HP (HP Crane Wings): Can always punish with 63214HP on hit or block, creating an endless loop of punishing each other 41236K (Swallow Kick): Dash up and punish with anything that knocks down, then use the OTG infinite Super: The initial flip kick can't hit Yeung unless you stick a button into it
vs. Wakeup LK: must be stand blocked vs. Wakeup HK: must be blocked low
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Important punishes 46HK (HK Jackknife Storm): Punishable with full BnB, but he might fly over your head if you are crouching, making it harder to punish 28K (Gatling Kick): Both versions are punishable with a full combo, but only have 3 landing frames, making it very difficult 16P (Slash Sword): Both versions can be punished with a dash up combo, but if you aren't confident in the timing, 6HP or 2HK should reach. Teleport: Far 5HP and 2HK are good for chasing down a teleport if you are close enough to reach him Super: Can react to super freeze with 41236LK to win or score a good trade; but might as well block and punish with a strong combo as soon as he lands
Counterpokes: Far 5HP and 2HP can deal with Thorsten's sweep; 2LK is very weak in neutral against Thorsten's main buttons. |
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Important punishes Light Normal > 6HK chain: Super fully punishes the gap, on hit or block. It's not a bad idea to mash Super if Drunk starts to hit you with close range light normals, as he is very likely to chain to 6HK (but difficult to do this on reaction) 236P (Jug Throw): 236LP can hop over the jug on reaction, while hitting Jackie if close enough Blockstring into 236P Jug Throw: 41236LK can be done on reaction to punish any normal cancelled into Jug. 63214P (Drunk Dragon): Both versions can be punished by reversal 41236LK on hit or block. 236K (Tricky Kick): If you block this, it is full combo punishable with any strong BnB combo. 28P (JackieCopter): Both strengths are extremely punishable; wait until he lands to get a better punish. Super: The most punishable move in the game by far, but it only has 10 landing frames, so be ready with a point blank 2LK combo starter.
Counterpokes: Buffering 2LP into 63214LP is effective at stopping Drunk from approaching with far 5HK, since it will hit him out of the air for a juggle. Unlike heavy normals, it also recovers fast enough to block a jug, which is important because it only takes a few counterhit jugs to lose a round. On reaction to a jug throw, 236LP will usually dodge the blast radius, and will hit Drunk if he is in range. Unfortunately it is hard to deal with both his far 5LK and jug throw simultaneously; you generally need far ranged buttons like 5HP or 6HP to stuff his far LK, which leaves Yeung vulnerable to jugs. This isn't a 9-1 matchup for nothing. |
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Important punishes 236HK (HK Crush Kick): 41236LK can punish except at max range 41236P (Tiger Fist): 63214LP can reliably punish, but she can be punished back in return Super: On block, the same punishes as Tiger Fist
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Important punishes 41236P (Dragon Palm): Reversal 41236LK will punish both strengths 623K (Double Dutch): Punishable with a full BnB combo Air 41236P (Air Dragon Shot): Dash under, and punish with immediate 41236LK to start a juggle Super: Reversal 63214LP or 2HK (63214HP works too, but only do this if necessary to kill)
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Important punishes 236P (Thousand Spears) (whiffed): On whiff, the followup doesn't come out, making it harder to punish 236HK (Rekka) followups: The HK Rekka followups are punishable with 2LK confirms or 41236LK 214K (Divekick): Dash up 2LK into a combo can punish, but difficulty depends on how high the divekick connects (higher = more unsafe) Super: Punish with a full BnB combo when he lands
This just leaves Thousand Spears and Throw. Sam is fast, but not very threatening at Yeung's strongest ranges; it shouldn't be too hard to keep him away if you play safely and check his approach with light normals. It's hard for Sam to combo into Thousand Spear if he doesn't start his offense from point blank, so it's okay to mash defensively even if you get hit several times. |
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Important punishes 6HK: Reversal 41236LK will punish any blocked overhead 236P (Running Lariat): Stay crouched, then use 2LK to start a combo right as she gets near you 28P (I Want You!): Dash up and punish with a full combo
Kim's OTG infinite only works in the corner, so just try to stay midscreen and Kim should have no way to knock you out within the round time limit. |
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Important punishes Far 5HK: 63214LP punishes reliably on block, if you're ready for the punish 2HK: 63214LP can punish, but it's possible for Lion to space it safely, in which case you will be punished for trying this 646LP (LP Lion Crusher): Punish with full 2LK combo, or reversal 41236LK if you're not confident in the timing 646HP (HP Lion Crusher): If used from close range and with a lot of room to spare, not punishable Normal xx 236LP (Lion Bomb): One of Lion's most important tools; dash up Throw or 2LK combo are the most reliable punishes Teleport: 2HK or Far 5HP are good for punishing teleports, since they can't go more than about half screen away Super: 41236LK can hit him out of the transformation, ending it immediately
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