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| damage = | | damage = 15 | ||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = Specials | | cancel = Specials | ||
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| damage = | | damage = 35 | ||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = Specials | | cancel = Specials | ||
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|name=5C | |name=5C | ||
|image=SVG_Orochimaru_Far5C.png | |image=SVG_Orochimaru_Far5C.png | ||
|caption=Making Haomaru proud | |||
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{{AttackData-SVG | {{AttackData-SVG | ||
| damage = | | damage = 55 | ||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = - | | cancel = - | ||
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| damage = | | damage = 20 | ||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = Specials | | cancel = Specials | ||
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}} | }} | ||
===Close Standing Normals=== | ===Close Standing Normals=== | ||
{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
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| damage = | | damage = 15 | ||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = Specials | | cancel = Specials | ||
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| damage = | | damage = 35 | ||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = Specials | | cancel = Specials | ||
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| damage = | | damage = 55 | ||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = Specials | | cancel = Specials | ||
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| damage = | | damage = 20 | ||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = Specials | | cancel = Specials | ||
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| damage = | | damage = 15 | ||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = - | | cancel = - | ||
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| damage = | | damage = 35 | ||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = Specials | | cancel = Specials | ||
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| advBlock = | | advBlock = | ||
| description = slash slightly longer than 2A | | description = slash slightly longer than 2A | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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| damage = | | damage = 55 | ||
| guard = Low | | guard = Low | ||
| cancel = Specials | | cancel = Specials | ||
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| damage = | | damage = 20 | ||
| guard = Low | | guard = Low | ||
| cancel = Specials | | cancel = Specials | ||
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| damage = | | damage = 15 | ||
| guard = High | | guard = High | ||
| cancel = - | | cancel = - | ||
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| damage = | | damage = 35 | ||
| guard = High | | guard = High | ||
| cancel = - | | cancel = - | ||
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| damage = | | damage = 55 | ||
| guard = High | | guard = High | ||
| cancel = - | | cancel = - | ||
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| damage = | | damage = 20 | ||
| guard = High | | guard = High | ||
| cancel = - | | cancel = - | ||
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| advBlock = | | advBlock = | ||
| description = Air kick. | | description = Air kick. | ||
}} | |||
}} | |||
===Command Normals=== | |||
{{MoveData | |||
|name=3B | |||
|image=SVG_Orochimaru_3B.png | |||
|data= | |||
{{AttackData-SVG | |||
| damage = 40 | |||
| guard = Mid | |||
| cancel = - | |||
| startup = | |||
| advHit = | |||
| advBlock = | |||
| description = stab that causes a hard knockdown. this is the most frequent and reliable way orochimaru gets knockdowns<br>hits OTG | |||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{MoveData | |||
|name=4D | |||
|image=SVG_Orochimaru_4D.png | |||
|data= | |||
{{AttackData-SVG | |||
| damage = 30 | |||
| guard = Mid | |||
| cancel = - | |||
| startup = | |||
| advHit = | |||
| advBlock = | |||
| description = Orochimaru jumps in the air and kicks<br>immune to low enough attacks | |||
}} | |||
}} | |||
===Chain Specific Normals=== | ===Chain Specific Normals=== | ||
{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
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| damage = | | damage = B 17, C 28 | ||
| guard = High | | guard = High | ||
| cancel = Specials | | cancel = Specials | ||
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| damage = | | damage = 28 | ||
| guard = High | | guard = High | ||
| cancel = - | | cancel = - | ||
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{{AttackData-SVG | {{AttackData-SVG | ||
| damage = | | damage = 60 | ||
| guard = Throw | | guard = Throw | ||
| cancel = N/A | | cancel = N/A | ||
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{{AttackData-SVG | {{AttackData-SVG | ||
| damage = | | damage = 70 | ||
| guard = Throw | | guard = Throw | ||
| cancel = N/A | | cancel = N/A | ||
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{{AttackData-SVG | {{AttackData-SVG | ||
| damage = | | damage = 150 | ||
| guard = High | | guard = High | ||
| cancel = N/A | | cancel = N/A | ||
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{{AttackData-SVG | {{AttackData-SVG | ||
| damage = | | damage = 145 | ||
| guard = Low | | guard = Low | ||
| cancel = N/A | | cancel = N/A | ||
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==Special Moves== | ==Special Moves== | ||
{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|name=214A/B/C | |name=Fire Dragon Wave | ||
|input=236A/B/C | |||
|image=SVG_Orochimaru_236ABC.png | |||
|data= | |||
{{AttackData-SVG | |||
| version = A | |||
| damage = 50 | |||
| guard = High/Low | |||
| cancel = Super | |||
| startup = | |||
| advHit = | |||
| advBlock = | |||
| description = big move that can SOT cancel<br>A version is stationary and is a single hit | |||
}} | |||
{{AttackData-SVG | |||
| version = B | |||
| damage = 51 | |||
| guard = High/Low | |||
| cancel = Super | |||
| startup = | |||
| advHit = | |||
| advBlock = | |||
| description = big move that can SOT cancel<br>B version is 3 hits and advances Orochimaru | |||
}} | |||
{{AttackData-SVG | |||
| version = C | |||
| damage = 56 | |||
| guard = High/Low | |||
| cancel = Super | |||
| startup = | |||
| advHit = | |||
| advBlock = | |||
| description = big move that can SOT cancel<br>C version is 4 hits and advances Orochimaru | |||
}} | |||
}} | |||
{{MoveData | |||
|name=Vertical Slicer | |||
|input=214A/B/C | |||
|image=SVG_Orochimaru_214ABC1.png | |image=SVG_Orochimaru_214ABC1.png | ||
|data= | |data= | ||
{{AttackData-SVG | {{AttackData-SVG | ||
| damage = | | version = A | ||
| damage = 11 | |||
| guard = Mid | |||
| cancel = Vertical Gale, Super | |||
| startup = | |||
| advHit = | |||
| advBlock = | |||
| description = short slash with somewhat slow startup | |||
}} | |||
{{AttackData-SVG | |||
| version = B | |||
| damage = 15 | |||
| guard = Mid | |||
| cancel = Vertical Gale, Super | |||
| startup = | |||
| advHit = | |||
| advBlock = | |||
| description = short slash with somewhat slow startup | |||
}} | |||
{{AttackData-SVG | |||
| version = C | |||
| damage = 19 | |||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = | | cancel = Vertical Gale, Super | ||
| startup = | | startup = | ||
| advHit = | | advHit = | ||
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| description = short slash with somewhat slow startup | | description = short slash with somewhat slow startup | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | |||
{{MoveData | |||
|name=Vertical Gale | |||
|input=Vertical Slicer ~> 214A/B/C | |||
|image=SVG_Orochimaru_214ABC2.png | |||
|data= | |||
{{AttackData-SVG | {{AttackData-SVG | ||
| damage = | | damage = 24-27 | ||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = | | cancel = V Gale Dragon Crest, Readiness | ||
| startup = | | startup = | ||
| advHit = | | advHit = | ||
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| description = followup to 214A/B/C<br>'''can cancel into stance''' | | description = followup to 214A/B/C<br>'''can cancel into stance''' | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | |||
{{MoveData | |||
|name=V Gale Dragon Crest | |||
|input=Vertical Gale ~> A/B/C | |||
|image=SVG_Orochimaru_214ABC3.png | |||
|data= | |||
{{AttackData-SVG | {{AttackData-SVG | ||
| damage = | | damage = 26-33 | ||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = | | cancel = Static Dragon, SoT | ||
| startup = | | startup = | ||
| advHit = | | advHit = | ||
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}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|name= | |name=Static Dragon | ||
|input= | |input=V Gale Dragon Crest ~> D | ||
|image= | |image=SVG_Orochimaru_214ABC4.png | ||
|data= | |data= | ||
{{AttackData-SVG | |||
| damage = | | damage = 32 | ||
| guard = | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = | | cancel = N/A | ||
| startup = | | startup = | ||
| advHit = | | advHit = | ||
| advBlock = | | advBlock = | ||
| description = | | description = final followup. can SOT cancel. D can be added for extra damage and a wallbounce<br>it's possible to get a wallbounce ''and'' SOT at the same time if the inputs are done fast enough | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|name= | |name=Unclean Killer | ||
|input=632146D | |input=632146D | ||
|image=SVG_Orochimaru_632146D.png | |image=SVG_Orochimaru_632146D.png | ||
|data= | |data= | ||
{{AttackData-SVG | {{AttackData-SVG | ||
| damage = | | damage = 45 | ||
| guard = | | guard = N/A | ||
| cancel = N/A | | cancel = N/A | ||
| startup = | | startup = | ||
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{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|name= | |name=Readiness | ||
|input=A+B After 5B/cl.5C/Vertical Gale On Hit/Block | |||
|image=SVG_Orochimaru_Stance.png | |image=SVG_Orochimaru_Stance.png | ||
|image2=SVG_Orochimaru_Stance_fdash.png | |image2=SVG_Orochimaru_Stance_fdash.png | ||
|image3=SVG_Orochimaru_Stance_bdash.png | |image3=SVG_Orochimaru_Stance_bdash.png | ||
|caption=This Is The Stance | |||
|caption=Stance | |||
|caption2=Forward dash | |caption2=Forward dash | ||
|caption3=Back dash | |caption3=Back dash | ||
|data= | |data= | ||
{{AttackData-SVG | {{AttackData-SVG | ||
| damage = | | damage = N/A | ||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = | | cancel = N/A | ||
| startup = | | startup = | ||
| advHit = | | advHit = | ||
| advBlock = | | advBlock = | ||
| description = Stance that can be entered with cl.5C, | | description = Stance that can be entered with 5B, cl.5C, or 214A/B/C ~> 214A/B/C<br>Stance can also cancel into throw or (very difficult) command throw<br>will disable automatically if no followup is selected | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{AttackData-SVG | {{AttackData-SVG | ||
| damage = | | damage = N/A | ||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = | | cancel = N/A | ||
| startup = | | startup = | ||
| advHit = | | advHit = | ||
| advBlock = | | advBlock = | ||
| description = Orochimaru hops forward a short distance<br>has a fair ammount of end lag so the opponent can grab you first if you attempt to grab them | | description = Orochimaru hops forward a short distance<br>has a fair ammount of end lag so the opponent can grab you first if you attempt to grab them<br>Can side swap if you are close enough | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{AttackData-SVG | {{AttackData-SVG | ||
| damage = | | damage = N/A | ||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = | | cancel = N/A | ||
| startup = | | startup = | ||
| advHit = | | advHit = | ||
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| description = Orochimaru does a short hop backwards<br>exits the stance | | description = Orochimaru does a short hop backwards<br>exits the stance | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | |||
| damage = | {{MoveData | ||
| guard = | |name=Reverse Fire | ||
| cancel = | |input=Readiness ~> 5A | ||
|image=SVG_Orochimaru_Stance_5A.png | |||
|data= | |||
{{AttackData-SVG | |||
| damage = 50 | |||
| guard = High | |||
| cancel = N/A | |||
| startup = | | startup = | ||
| advHit = | | advHit = | ||
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| description = quick overhead that causes a hard knockdown<br>exits the stance | | description = quick overhead that causes a hard knockdown<br>exits the stance | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | |||
| damage = | {{MoveData | ||
| guard = | |name=Dragon Slice | ||
| cancel = | |input=Readiness ~> 2A | ||
|image=SVG_Orochimaru_Stance_2A.png | |||
|data= | |||
{{AttackData-SVG | |||
| damage = 45 | |||
| guard = Low | |||
| cancel = N/A | |||
| startup = | | startup = | ||
| advHit = | | advHit = | ||
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| description = quick low that causes a hard knockdown<br>exits the stance | | description = quick low that causes a hard knockdown<br>exits the stance | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | |||
| damage = | {{MoveData | ||
|name=Fire Dragon | |||
|input=Readiness ~> B | |||
|image=SVG_Orochimaru_Stance_B.png | |||
|data= | |||
{{AttackData-SVG | |||
| damage = 40 | |||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = | | cancel = N/A | ||
| startup = | | startup = | ||
| advHit = | | advHit = | ||
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| description = very fast and very damaging poke | | description = very fast and very damaging poke | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | |||
| damage = | {{MoveData | ||
|name=Dragon Chop | |||
|input=Readiness ~> | |||
|image=SVG_Orochimaru_Stance_C.png | |||
|data= | |||
{{AttackData-SVG | |||
| damage = 80 | |||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = | | cancel = Super | ||
| startup = | | startup = | ||
| advHit = | | advHit = | ||
| advBlock = | | advBlock = | ||
| description = armored move that guard breaks on block or causes a knockdown on hit<br>is stopped by multihits and lows and parries<br>needs further testing, but if attacked near the end of the animation orochimaru will attack instantly<br>exits the stance | | description = armored move that guard breaks on block or causes a knockdown on hit<br>Will Combo into Single Slice Howling Gale on Hit/Block anywhere. In the corner it can combo into Reverse Blade Dragon Flash for more damage.<br>is stopped by multihits and lows and parries<br>needs further testing, but if attacked near the end of the animation orochimaru will attack instantly<br>exits the stance | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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===Level 1 Supers=== | ===Level 1 Supers=== | ||
{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|name= | |name=Reverse Blade Dragon Flash | ||
|image= | |input=214214A/B/C | ||
|image=SVG_Orochimaru_214214A-B-C.png | |||
|caption= | |caption= | ||
|data= | |data= | ||
{{AttackData-SVG | {{AttackData-SVG | ||
| damage = | | damage = 131 | ||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = N/A | | cancel = N/A | ||
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| advHit = | | advHit = | ||
| advBlock = | | advBlock = | ||
| description = very | | description = fire pillar super with good reach<br>has a very long startup. opponents can attack on the superflash but still recover and block in time<br>aerial opponents can air dash forward on the superflash and end up behind you<br>it is often used in long advanced combos but it scales damage a lot | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|name= | |name=Single Slice Howling Gale | ||
|image= | |input=236236A/B/C | ||
|image=SVG_Orochimaru_236236A.png | |||
|caption= | |caption= | ||
|data= | |data= | ||
{{AttackData-SVG | {{AttackData-SVG | ||
| damage = | | damage = 134 | ||
| guard = | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = N/A | | cancel = N/A | ||
| startup = | | startup = | ||
| advHit = | | advHit = | ||
| advBlock = | | advBlock = | ||
| description = | | description = very very short attack that on hit initiates a sequence ending in a knockdown<br>while it can be used as a reversal, it can't reliably punish jump-ins<br>it's range is so short that most BNBs can't end with it | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|name= | |name=Emperor Dragon Thunder | ||
|image= | |input=236236D | ||
|image=SVG_Orochimaru_236236D.png | |||
|caption= | |caption= | ||
|data= | |data= | ||
{{AttackData-SVG | {{AttackData-SVG | ||
| damage = | | damage = | ||
| guard = | | guard = - | ||
| cancel = N/A | | cancel = N/A | ||
| startup = | | startup = | ||
| advHit = | | advHit = | ||
| advBlock = | | advBlock = | ||
| description = | | description = this breaks mizuumi guidelines but '''please never use this'''<br>a parry super with tons of damage however :<br>- if the opponent's attack is active during the superflash it will not counter it<br>- it's beaten by lows<br>- it's beaten by throws<br>- it will almost never be timed correctly to punish a jump-in, since they can empty jump when they see the superflash | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
===Level 3 Super=== | ===Level 3 Super=== | ||
{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|name= | |name=Seven Blades: Pegasus | ||
|image=SVG_Orochimaru_214214214D1.png | |image=SVG_Orochimaru_214214214D1.png | ||
|image2=SVG_Orochimaru_214214214D2.png | |image2=SVG_Orochimaru_214214214D2.png | ||
|caption2=Translation : you dead | |caption2=Translation : you dead | ||
|input= | |input=214214214D | ||
|caption= | |caption= | ||
|data= | |data= | ||
{{AttackData-SVG | {{AttackData-SVG | ||
| damage = | | damage = 339 | ||
| guard = Mid | | guard = Mid | ||
| cancel = N/A | | cancel = N/A |
Revision as of 19:49, 19 August 2021
Orochimaru | |
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Health | 500 |
Pre-Jump Frames | 4 |
Play Style | All-Around |
Dash Type | Run |
Character Background
Race: Dragon
Motivation: To preserve order
Weapon: Rising Sun
Likes: Alcohol, Women, Fighting
Dislikes: Marriage
Character Overview
Orochimaru is the most neutral heavy character in the game. he relies on excellent positioning, great intuition and smart use of his stance to take advantage. he benefits from an easy execution for his optimal combos and good pokes
However, he is rewarded with extremely poor damage compared to everyone else for relatively high risk. Which, coupled with his lack of disjoints, projectiles and his very slow air speed, lands him at the bottom of all tier lists
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Normals
Far Standing Normals
5A
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5B
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5C
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5D
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Close Standing Normals
cl.5A
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cl.5B
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cl.5C
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cl.5D
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Crouching Normals
2A
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2B
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2C
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2D
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Jumping Normals
j.A
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j.B
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j.C
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j.D
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Command Normals
3B
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4D
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Chain Specific Normals
A -> B -> C
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2B -> 2C
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Throws
A+D
Forward Throw |
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B+D
Back Throw |
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Sword Series Slash (Dust)
5B+C
Standing SSS |
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2B+C
Low SSS |
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Chaos Breaking (Parry)
A+B
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Special Moves
Fire Dragon Wave
236A/B/C |
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Vertical Slicer
214A/B/C |
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Vertical Gale
Vertical Slicer ~> 214A/B/C |
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V Gale Dragon Crest
Vertical Gale ~> A/B/C |
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Static Dragon
V Gale Dragon Crest ~> D |
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Unclean Killer
632146D |
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Readiness
A+B After 5B/cl.5C/Vertical Gale On Hit/Block |
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Reverse Fire
Readiness ~> 5A |
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Dragon Slice
Readiness ~> 2A |
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Fire Dragon
Readiness ~> B |
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Dragon Chop
Readiness ~> |
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Super Moves
Level 1 Supers
Reverse Blade Dragon Flash
214214A/B/C |
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Single Slice Howling Gale
236236A/B/C |
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Emperor Dragon Thunder
236236D |
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Level 3 Super
Seven Blades: Pegasus
214214214D |
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