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Revision as of 20:32, 10 January 2021
Story
Lupinus
『ルピナスー』
A special agent of the Earth Military Union. She got assigned to watch over Hikaru by her superiors, which is great for her because she can try to get senpai to notice her now.
Playstyle
Health: 29000
Stun: 90
Lupinus' playstyle can be best described as high mobility and high space control, with a command dash to help close the distance and command throws to crack open people at close range.
Though her normals and specials are a little on the slow side, they let her cover a broad variety of angles and ranges--she has strong and useful tools in her kit for anti-air, air-to-air, and air-to-ground. Generally speaking, she can engage at her leisure, and has respectable damage output and corner carry to match. She has a fairly high conversion rate at close and mid range, too, and she has a strong corner mixup tool with her 4/6BD Extra Special (Hayabusa/wallcling), in addition to a powerful pressure tool in her 214214K (Claymore).
The main difficulties in Lupinus' playstyle come from her lack of defensive options. As noted earlier, her normals are somewhat slow, meaning that mashing out of pressure is a tricky task, and she has limited reversal options that are mostly constrained to her Extra Moves that carry significant risk if misused. Her pressure game is also relatively lackluster without spending meter for 214214K.
Mobility (Run vs. Step)
Run: Lupinus has one of the faster runs in the game, and it tends to be more useful for helping her get midscreen combos via microdashes. Most of the time Lupinus players will use Run over Step.
Step: Lupinus' step is relatively fast and it's airborne, so you can use it to avoid grabs and possibly some lows. Most characters like step for step canceling normals into tick throws, and while Lupinus can make use of that, the nature of her command dash means that this function isn't as useful as it is for other characters.
Extra Move Selection
Specials: Both 4/6BD (Hayabusa) and 623K (Hayate) have their strong points. Carrying Hayabusa will give you an oppressive corner game with a variety of options to keep the opponent guessing and stressed out, while Hayate gives you a reversal option and additional command throw to break open defenses--it's also an excellent Exceed starter if you can connect with it. That said, Hayabusa is hard to utilize effectively if you're not close to the corner, and while Hayate does have reversal frames it also has a long recovery time and doesn't really hit anti-air. In a general sense Hayate is a better pick for matchups where you'll need a meterless reversal for the ground, while matchups where it's easier to run mixups will benefit more from taking Hayabusa.
Supers: 236236K (Koushi) is a an anti-air super that does a lot of damage, while 236236P (Raijin) is a rushing dash punch. Taking Koushi gives you a powerful anti-air attack, while Raijin has decent horizontal reach, and some invul (moreso with the C version). The downside to Koushi is that it is completely useless against grounded enemies and has a narrow horizontal hitbox, while Raijin is a little trickier to set up loops with despite the distance it travels. If you prefer high damage and air control, take Koushi; for corner carry and slightly more flexible reversal targeting, take Raijin.
Lupinus pretty much never wants to take two specials for her Extra Moves. Though their usages vary, both of her super moves are good enough to merit carrying one of them into any given matchup because of her high conversion rate for Exceed combos. Between Hayabusa and Hayate, Hayabusa generally sees more use since Lupinus has strong enough corner carry that it's possible to make good use of it in most matchups. However, as stated earlier, matchups where she needs a meterless reversal may warrant taking Hayate instead. It's largely up to you.
Recommended Sets
Hayabusa and Raijin: While you lose some more options for air control since you're not carrying Koushi, this gives you a reversal with a bit more range plus the absurd mixup/corner conversion potential that wallcling can enforce. You'll have to get used to routing at midscreen for Raijin loops and you may not like needing meter for a reversal, but if you can work around those limitations this set works well.
Hayabusa and Koushi: This is sort of the inverse of the above selection, trading some ground coverage for a better command of the air and retaining wallcling tech. However, it's easier to use Koushi to set up for damage and some degree of corner carry--so long as you can catch out an opponent in the air or put them there.
Hayate and Koushi: When you absolutely need a grounded meterless reversal but want/need to control the air as well, this is the set you want. Hayate's Exceed potential combined with Koushi's positioning and damage means that setting up high-damage situations is a lot less demanding than getting Raijin spacing correct. The main downside to this set is the loss of wallcling, limiting some of your more obnoxious pressure to Claymore setups only.
Move List
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Normal Moves
5A
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5C
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5D
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2A
2A
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2B
2B
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2C
2C
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2D
2D
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j.A
j.A
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j.B
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j.C
j.C
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j.D
j.D
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Command Moves
3C
162nd Gata = Sparrow (Suzume)
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Special Chaos Combo
Special Chaos Combo
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Throw
Throw
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Guard Break
Guard Break
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Special Moves
214P
650th Gata = Nighthawk (Yotaka)
214P EX OK |
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j.214P
96th Gata = God Hammer (Tetsui)
j.214P EX OK |
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j.623P
69th Gata = Heaven's Sword (Tenken)
j.623P EX OK |
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41236K
R6th Gata = Regulus (Shishi)
41236K EX OK |
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63214B
1128th Gata = Striker (Gekitetsu)
63214B |
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63214D
1127th Gata = Vanguard (Kiba)
63214D |
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236A
67th Gata = Hydra (Orochi)
236A |
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236C
67th Gata Mushiki = Zero (Rei)
236C |
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Extra Special Moves
623K
M31st Gata = Gale (Hayate)
623K |
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4/6BD
1st Gata - 43rd Shiki = Falcon (Hayabusa)
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Ultimate Chaos Moves
214214K
92nd Gata = Claymore (Juuken)
214214K |
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6321463214P
89th Gata = Berserk (Sentora)
6321463214P |
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Extra Ultimate Chaos Moves
236236K
91st Gata = Saint's Arrow (Koushi)
236236K |
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236236P
81st Gata = Jupiter (Raijin)
236236P |
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Strategy
Neutral
When playing the ground game, your primary poking tool for the midrange is 5C--it can't be thrown out all the time but it has good reach and cancels well into 236A. 5A and 5B are also useful, but have to be used a little more carefully, as 5A tends to whiff on crouchers and 5B has good range but is a little slow. 236A itself is also an option as long as it doesn't whiff, but your main goal is to hit with the tip if you're going to be using it as an irritant.
For anti-air options, you have 3C and 214P to snatch people that are trying to approach carelessly from the air.
When in the air yourself, you have j.B and j.D as ground-to-air or air-to-air options, mostly for opponents at about your height and if you want to be able to continue a combo with a jump cancel. j.C is also an incredibly useful button in general, though, and you should never discount it as an option as you're falling down or going for an air-to-air; if it hits low enough you'll have a lot of hitstun to play with. you However, if you want to play from mid-range, j.214P is your best bet. j.214A/EX are the air-to-air options--j.214A will give you and the opponent some space but EX will put you close to them and let you stay in, possibly even convert to a combo if you're close enough to the corner. j.214C is the air-to-ground option, and if it hits will also put you in a cozy position.
If you want or need to close a gap quickly, picking Run gives you a good, quick run, but you also have 63214D as a gap-closer that can come off of any normal or even be used in neutral with fakeouts via 236C.
Combos
Midscreen
- 5A 5B delay 5A 5B 5C 236A~A
- Sets up a damage combo midscreen by allowing for a supercancel after 236A~A, especially if you carry 236236K as an extra super. If you have max meter, you can Exceed cancel 236A~A and use 63214B to hit and carry the opponent to the corner.
- 5A 5B delay 5A 5B 5C 63214B
- Primarily a corner carry setup. Can use Exceed to extend the combo.
Near Corner
- 5A 5B delay 5A 5B 5C 236A~B j.C delay j.C rejump j.A j.C double jump j.A j.B j.D j.214C
- The "j.C, delay j.C" used here is one rep of Lupinus' j.C loop, which is a vital part of her combo theory in the corner. You press j.C on your way up, wait a little bit, then press j.C as you come down. j.214C will leave the you and the opponent close to each other and near the corner, so if you've carried in 4/6BD then this gives you an opportunity to run wallcling oki if you so desire. If you have max meter, then Exceed the last hit of j.214C, go into 63214B, and supercancel from there.
- 5A 5B delay 5A 5B 5C 236A~B run 3C 214A
- If you happen to be close enough to the corner for 236A~B wallstick but not close enough to get a j.C, then this combo works just fine to convert instead.
Corner
- 2B 5A 5B 5C 623B 2A 5C sjc j.B j.C 5A sjc j.C delay j.C super jump j.C j.C super jump j.C j.C j.D j.623C
- j.D 5A 5C 623B 2A 5C sjc j.A j.B j.C land super jump j.C j.C land super jump j.C j.C land super jump j.C j.D j.214C Exceed 63214B 236236P AB 5D 63214B 236236P chaos shift 5C 63214B 6321463214P 63214P 236236P
- 41236BD 2B sjc j.C j.C super jump j.C delay j.C rejump j.A j.C djc j.B j.D j.214C
- Corner loop off of ex command grab, you can confirm into ex command grab by canceling any normal into a command run, then canceling the command run into the ex grab. Video example
- 236236K AB 236C 5C sjc j.C delay j.C rejump j.C delay j.C rejump j.C. delay jC rejump j.C djc jB. j.D ender
- 2C sjc j.214C 5A 5B sjc j.A j.B j.D land j.A j.B j.C (corner) land j.A j.C double jump j.B j.D ender
- parry 5C iad C run j.A j.B j.C land j.C j.C land j.C double jump j.B j.D ender
- back to corner parry 5C run under 5A sjc j.C delay j.C rejump j.C delay j.C j.A j.C djc j.B j.D ender
- 5A 5B 5C 63214D 41236BD dash 5A sjc j.A j.B j.C run j.A j.B j.C (corner) j.A j.C djc j.B j.D ender
- 5A 5B 5C 63214D 41236BD dash 5A 5C 63214B 2A 5C sjcC,C j.C,C j.C djc j.B j.D ender
- 6321463214P~63214P dash 5A 5B sjc j.A j.B j.D j.A j.B j.C 214AC 2B 5C sjcBC 5A sjcC,C j.C,C j.C djc j.B j.D ender
- ...236236K AB 63214B (corner) 2A 5C sjc j.C delay j.C rejump j.C delay j.C rejump j.C djc j.B j.D ender
Counterhit Combos
- CH j.C 5B sjc j.A j.B j.C run j.A j.B j.C j.214A
- CH j.C 5A 63214B (corner) 2A 5C sjc j.C delay j.C rejump j.C delay j.C j.C djc j.B j.D ender
- CH 236236A iad j.D 5A 5C 63214B (corner) 2A 5C sjc j.C delay j.C rejump j.C delay j.C rejump j.C delay j.C rejump j.C djc j.B j.D ender
- CH j.C 2B 5C sjc j.C delay j.C rejump j.C delay j.C rejump j.A j.C djc j.B j.D ender
- CH 236236A 5C sjc j.C delay j.C rejump j.C delay j.C rejump j.C djc j.B j.D ender (can Exceed if j.214C is the ender)
Exceed Combos
- j.214C Exceed 63214B 236236D AB 236C 236236D AB 236C 236236D
- j.214C Exceed 214A 236236A(?) AB 214A 236236A AB 214A 236236A (corner) AB 5C sjcC,C j.C,C j.A j.C djc j.B j.D ender
- ...236A~A Exceed 63214B 236236D AB 236C 236236D AB 236C 236236D
- 623D walk 5A sjc j.A j.B j.D j.A j.B j.C 214A B+C 41236B 236236A Exceed
Videos
- Some combos: [1]
Colors
- Console Versions: You can hold R1 button while selecting a character to get an alternative color.
- Arcade Version: You can hold START button while selecting a character to get an alternative color.