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__TOC__<br>
__TOC__<br>
<center>'''<big>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRvfO_yRsAw M. Lion's Combo Video Guide - Spabobin]</big>'''</center>


<center>{{NavigationSub-JCFoF}}</center>
<center>{{NavigationSub-JCFoF}}</center>
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=<big>'''Hitconfirm Combos'''</big>=
=<big>'''Hitconfirm Combos'''</big>=


''Combo Note: the easiest post-stun combo is j.HK > j.HP, mash 646LP, juggle 2HK. Be as close as possible when starting the forward jump''<br>
''Combo Note: the easiest post-stun combo is {{clr|4|j.HK}} > {{clr|4|j.HP}}, mash {{clr|15|646LP}}, juggle {{clr|4|2HK}}. Be as close as possible when starting the forward jump''<br>
''cl 5HK > cl 5HP xx mash 646LP will also KO, but only works against Lau, Thorsten, Drunk Jackie, and Dragonball Jackie''<br>
''{{clr|4|cl.5HK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} xx mash {{clr|15|646LP}} will also KO, but only works against Lau, Thorsten, Drunk Jackie, and Dragonball Jackie''<br>
'''''2LK''' is more reliable for midscreen juggles, and always works after air resets. '''5LK''' is more useful in some character-specific corner juggles.''<br>
'''''{{clr|15|2LK}}''' is more reliable for midscreen juggles, and always works after air resets. '''{{clr|15|5LK}}''' is more useful in some character-specific corner juggles.''<br>
''When using '''646HP''' in combos, you must be very close to the corner or Lion will cross through, making it very unsafe.''
''When using '''{{clr|4|646HP}}''' in combos, you must be very close to the corner or Lion will cross through, making it very unsafe.''


{{ComboHeader-JCFoF}}
{{ComboHeader2-JCFoF}}
{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:2LK > 2LP > 5LP xx mash 646'''LP''',
:{{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|15|2LP}} > {{clr|15|5LP}} xx mash {{clr|15|646'''LP'''}},
:dash '''2LK''' > cl 5HP > cl 5HK
:dash '''{{clr|15|2LK}}''' > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}
| damage=54%
| damage=54%
| location=Anywhere
| location=Anywhere
| charspecific=Everyone but<br>Drunk Jackie
| charspecific=Everyone but<br>Drunk Jackie
| description=
| description=
* Lion's only real standard hitconfirm; 2LP > 5LP chains more slowly than usual
* Lion's only real standard hitconfirm; {{clr|15|2LP}} > {{clr|15|5LP}} chains more slowly than usual
* Juggling with 2LK > cl 5HK > far 5HP is easier to time, but gives much worse positioning
* Juggling with {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} > {{clr|4|far.5HP}} is easier to time, but gives much worse positioning
* In the corner, this sets up Lion for a strong meaty/throw mixup
* In the corner, this sets up Lion for a strong meaty/throw mixup
| video=[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRvfO_yRsAw video]<br>(0:00)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWYBCbMOTzc||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:2LK > 2LP > 5LP xx mash 646'''LP''',
:{{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|15|2LP}} > {{clr|15|5LP}} xx mash {{clr|15|646'''LP'''}},
:dash '''2LK''' > cl 5HK
:dash '''{{clr|15|2LK}}''' > {{clr|15|2LP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}
| damage=46%
| damage=48%
| location=Anywhere
| location=Anywhere
| charspecific=Drunk Jackie,<br>Lau
| charspecific=Drunk Jackie,<br>Lau
| description=
| description=
* Same as previous combo, but the juggle is cut short<br>-M. Lion can never get both heavy normals to juggle vs. '''Drunk Jackie'''
* Same as previous combo, but the juggle is cut short
** M. Lion can never get both heavy normals to juggle vs. '''Drunk Jackie'''
* This route is recommended vs. '''Lau''' due to juggle inconsistencies
* This route is recommended vs. '''Lau''' due to juggle inconsistencies
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=7 video]<br>(0:07)
** To get the stronger route, juggle must occur at the earliest or latest possible timing
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px16xTlDSM0||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:2LK, 2LP x2 > 5LP xx mash 646'''HP''',
:{{clr|15|2LK}}, {{clr|15|2LP}} x2 > {{clr|15|5LP}} xx mash {{clr|4|646'''HP'''}},
:(dash) '''2LK''' > cl 5HP > cl 5HK '''(stun)'''
:(dash) '''{{clr|15|2LK}}''' > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} '''(stun)'''
| damage=100%<br>(69%)
| damage=100%<br>(69%)
| location=Corner
| location=Corner
| charspecific=Everyone but Lau,<br>Admiral Jackie,<br>Drunk Jackie
| charspecific=Everyone but Lau,<br>Admiral Jackie,<br>Drunk Jackie
| description=
| description=
* vs. '''Kim-Maree & Thorsten''': microdash before '''2LK'''
* vs. '''Kim-Maree & Thorsten''': microdash before '''{{clr|15|2LK}}'''
* vs. '''Thorsten & M. Lion''': no stun, but juggle still works
* vs. '''Thorsten & M. Lion''': no stun, but juggle still works
* vs. '''Yeung''': juggle is very lenient; switch sides first to make it easier
* vs. '''Yeung''': juggle is very lenient; switch sides first to make it easier
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=30 video]<br>(0:30)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQTGMP63EX8||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:2LK, 2LP x2 > 5LP xx mash 646'''HP''',
:{{clr|15|2LK}}, {{clr|15|2LP}} x2 > {{clr|15|5LP}} xx mash {{clr|4|646'''HP'''}},
:dash '''5LK''' > cl 5HP > cl 5HK '''(stun)'''
:dash '''{{clr|15|5LK}}''' > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} '''(stun)'''
| damage=100%<br>(61%)
| damage=100%<br>(61%)
| location=Corner
| location=Corner
| charspecific=Lau,<br>Admiral Jackie,<br>*Drunk Jackie
| charspecific=Lau,<br>Admiral Jackie,<br>*Drunk Jackie
| description=
| description=
* vs. '''Lau & Admiral''': microdash 5LK required; 2LK will whiff
* vs. '''Lau & Admiral''': microdash {{clr|15|5LK}} required; {{clr|15|2LK}} will whiff
* vs. '''Drunk Jackie''': no stun because full juggle can't connect<br>-Use microdash '''5LK > cl 5HK''' (~61% dmg)
* vs. '''Drunk Jackie''': no stun because full juggle can't connect<br>-Use microdash '''{{clr|15|5LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}''' (~61% dmg)
* 5LK will work on the other characters too, but has more strict timing
* {{clr|15|5LK}} will work on the other characters too, but has more strict timing
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=47 video]<br>(0:47)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XlQbZ8MUho||center}}
|}}
 
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
:{{clr|4|cl.5HK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} xx mash {{clr|15|646'''LP'''}},
:dash '''{{clr|15|2LK}}''' > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}
| damage=76%
| location=Anywhere
| charspecific=Lau, Thorsten, Drunk, Dragonball '''(Standing)'''
| description=
* Strong punish combo, especially useful for optimal post-stun damage
* On other characters, the {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} whiffs
* vs. '''Drunk:''' end with {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|15|2LP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD6jr0bNgYM||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:cl 5HK > 2HP (1st hit) xx mash 646'''LP''',
:{{clr|4|cl.5HK}} > {{clr|4|2HP}} (1st hit) xx mash {{clr|15|646'''LP'''}},
:dash '''2LK''' > cl 5HP > cl 5HK
:dash '''{{clr|15|2LK}}''' > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}
| damage=69%
| damage=69%
| location=Anywhere
| location=Anywhere
| charspecific=Everyone but<br>Yeung, Sam, Kim '''(Standing)'''
| charspecific=Admiral, M. Lion '''(Standing)'''
| description=
| description=
* Strong punish combo; otherwise impractical since cl 5HK whiffs on crouchers
* Weaker version of the previous combo that works on more characters
** This also works on Lau, Thorsten, Drunk, & Dragonball, but no reason to use it
* See earlier combos for character-specific juggle information
* See earlier combos for character-specific juggle information
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=89 video]<br>(1:29)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ6Rwo7XpJE||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:236LP Bomb, dash 2LK > 5LP xx mash 646'''LP''',
:{{clr|15|236LP Bomb}},
:dash '''2LK''' > cl 5HK > far 5HP '''(stun)'''
:dash {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|15|5LP}} xx mash {{clr|15|646'''LP'''}},
:dash '''{{clr|15|2LK}}''' > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} > {{clr|4|far.5HP}} '''(stun)'''
| damage=100%
| damage=100%
| location=Anywhere
| location=Anywhere
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| description=
| description=
* Requires all 5 hits of bomb to connect
* Requires all 5 hits of bomb to connect
* vs. '''Drunk Jackie''' & '''Lau''': juggle with dash '''2LK > 5LP > cl 5HK''' instead<br>-The normal route can work on Lau, but is less consistent
* vs. '''Drunk Jackie''' & '''Lau''': juggle with dash '''{{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|15|5LP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}''' instead<br>-The normal route can work on Lau, but is less consistent
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=96 video]<br>(1:36)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI13-4AEU9g||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:236LP Bomb, dash cl 5HK > 2HP (1st hit) xx mash 646'''LP''',
:{{clr|15|236LP Bomb}},
:dash '''2LK''' > cl 5HK > far 5HP '''(stun)'''
:dash {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} > {{clr|4|2HP}} (1st hit) xx mash {{clr|15|646'''LP'''}},
:dash '''{{clr|15|2LK}}''' > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} > {{clr|4|far.5HP}} '''(stun)'''
| damage=100%
| damage=100%
| location=Anywhere
| location=Anywhere
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* Extremely difficult variation of previous combo to stun Thorsten midscreen
* Extremely difficult variation of previous combo to stun Thorsten midscreen
* Bomb must hit from as close as possible while still getting all 5 hits
* Bomb must hit from as close as possible while still getting all 5 hits
* This ending juggle is much more lenient than the usual 2LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK route
* This ending juggle is much more lenient than the usual {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} route
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=115 video]<br>(1:55)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVTc7fVQEFo||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:236LP Bomb, [dash 5LP] xx mash 646'''HP''',
:{{clr|15|236LP Bomb}},
:'''2LK/5LK''' > cl 5HK '''(stun)'''
:[dash {{clr|15|5LP}}] xx mash {{clr|4|646'''HP'''}},
:'''{{clr|15|2LK}}/{{clr|15|5LK}}''' > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} '''(stun)'''
| damage=100%
| damage=100%
| location=Corner
| location=Corner
| charspecific=Universal
| charspecific=Universal
| description=
| description=
* Rrefer to previous 646HP combos for character-specific juggle information
* Rrefer to previous {{clr|4|646HP}} combos for character-specific juggle information
* '''[Dash 5LP]''' is only required vs. '''Drunk Jackie, Thorsten, & M. Lion'''
* '''[Dash {{clr|15|5LP}}]''' is only required vs. '''Drunk Jackie, Thorsten, & M. Lion'''
* vs. '''Drunk Jackie''': juggle with '''5LK > far 5HP''' instead
* vs. '''Drunk Jackie''': juggle with '''{{clr|15|5LK}} > {{clr|4|far.5HP}}''' instead
* vs. '''M. Lion''': juggle with '''2LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK''' instead
* vs. '''M. Lion''': juggle with '''{{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}''' instead
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=125 video]<br>(2:05)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv3wIRM5mA0||center}}
|}}
|}}


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{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|+ Juggle timing window (in Frames): Midscreen 646LP into 2LK/5LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK
|+ Juggle timing window (in Frames): Midscreen {{clr|15|646LP}} into {{clr|15|2LK}}/{{clr|15|5LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}
|-
|-
! Opponent's Character !! 2LK Juggle !! 5LK Juggle !! Notes
! Opponent's Character !! {{clr|15|2LK}} Juggle !! {{clr|15|5LK}} Juggle !! Notes
|-
|-
| Thorsten || style="text-align:center;" |4 || style="text-align:center;" |-- || From most midscreen hitconfirms, 5LK > cl 5HP is impossible
| Thorsten || style="text-align:center;" |4 || style="text-align:center;" |-- || From most midscreen hitconfirms, {{clr|15|5LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} is impossible
|-
|-
| M. Lion || style="text-align:center;" |5 || style="text-align:center;" |-- || From most midscreen hitconfirms, 5LK > cl 5HP is impossible (or 1f timing at best)
| M. Lion || style="text-align:center;" |5 || style="text-align:center;" |-- || From most midscreen hitconfirms, {{clr|15|5LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} is impossible (or 1f timing at best)
|-
|-
| Lau || style="text-align:center;" |3 <small>(8)</small> 2 || style="text-align:center;" |2 || Full 2LK juggle only works on the first 3 or final 2 frames; 8f in the middle causes cl 5HK to whiff<br>-5LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK only works on final 2 frames, very difficult<br>-Recommend using 2LK > cl 5HK instead
| Lau || style="text-align:center;" |3 <small>(8)</small> 2 || style="text-align:center;" |2 || Full {{clr|15|2LK}} juggle only works on the first 3 or final 2 frames; 8f in the middle causes {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} to whiff<br>-{{clr|15|5LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} only works on final 2 frames, very difficult<br>-Recommend using {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} instead
|-
|-
| Kim-Maree || style="text-align:center;" |9 || style="text-align:center;" |5 || --
| Kim-Maree || style="text-align:center;" |9 || style="text-align:center;" |5 || --
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| Dragonball Jackie || style="text-align:center;" |12 || style="text-align:center;" |8 || --
| Dragonball Jackie || style="text-align:center;" |12 || style="text-align:center;" |8 || --
|-
|-
| Drunk Jackie || style="text-align:center;" |12 || style="text-align:center;" |10 || End juggle with only cl 5HK; can't juggle an additional 5HP<br>-Wait until near the end of Lion's dash, as Drunk Jackie gets launched far away
| Drunk Jackie || style="text-align:center;" |12 || style="text-align:center;" |10 || End juggle with only {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}; can't juggle an additional 5HP<br>-Wait until near the end of Lion's dash, as Drunk Jackie gets launched far away
|-
|-
| Admiral Jackie || style="text-align:center;" |13 || style="text-align:center;" |9 || --
| Admiral Jackie || style="text-align:center;" |13 || style="text-align:center;" |9 || --
|-
|-
| Sam || style="text-align:center;" |14 || style="text-align:center;" |12 || On the final possible 2LK juggle frame, Sam gets juggled backwards with 2LK (still extremely lenient)
| Sam || style="text-align:center;" |14 || style="text-align:center;" |12 || On the final possible {{clr|15|2LK}} juggle frame, Sam gets juggled backwards with {{clr|15|2LK}} (still extremely lenient)
|-
|-
| Yeung || style="text-align:center;" |19 || style="text-align:center;" |16 || Both are very lenient; there is 1f where 2LK juggles backwards, so 5LK may be better<br>-It is strategically better to let Yeung land, then use OTG infinite if you can execute it
| Yeung || style="text-align:center;" |19 || style="text-align:center;" |16 || Both are very lenient; there is 1f where {{clr|15|2LK}} juggles backwards, so {{clr|15|5LK}} may be better<br>-It is strategically better to let Yeung land, then use OTG infinite if you can execute it
|}
|}


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''Note: Each character has their most consistent throw juggle listed, but more optimal routes are often possible with strict timing.''<br>''Crouch Throw damage varies based on relative mashing speed between players.''<br>''Stand Throw leaves the opponent in a backturned state for a stronger mixup.''
''Note: Each character has their most consistent throw juggle listed, but more optimal routes are often possible with strict timing.''<br>''Crouch Throw damage varies based on relative mashing speed between players.''<br>''Stand Throw leaves the opponent in a backturned state for a stronger mixup.''
{{ComboHeader-JCFoF}}
{{ComboHeader2-JCFoF}}
{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:Stand/[Crouch] Throw, dash '''5LK''' > '''cl 5HP''' > '''cl 5HK'''
:Stand / [Crouch] Throw,
:dash '''{{clr|15|5LK}}''' > '''{{clr|4|cl.5HP}}''' > '''{{clr|4|cl.5HK}}'''
| damage=46%<br>[~42%]
| damage=46%<br>[~42%]
| location=Near corner
| location=Near corner
| charspecific=Yeung, Dragonball Jackie
| charspecific=Yeung, Dragonball Jackie
| description=
| description=
* If you can't quite get point blank for the juggle, omit the cl 5HP
* If you can't quite get point blank for the juggle, omit the {{clr|4|cl.5HP}}
* vs. '''Yeung''': using OTG relaunch is a better idea
* vs. '''Yeung''': using OTG relaunch is a better idea
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=177 video]<br>(2:57)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_PU5mc4OGg||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:Stand/[Crouch] Throw, dash '''5LK''' > '''cl 5HK''' > '''far 5HP'''
:Stand / [Crouch] Throw,
:dash '''{{clr|15|5LK}}''' > '''{{clr|4|cl.5HK}}''' > '''{{clr|4|far.5HP}}'''
| damage=46%<br>[~42%]
| damage=46%<br>[~42%]
| location=Near corner
| location=Near corner
| charspecific=Admiral Jackie
| charspecific=Admiral Jackie
| description=
| description=
* Most consistent route vs. Admiral; for stronger mixup, omit the 5HP<br>-5LK > 2LP > cl 5HK can also work, but corner juggle is awkward
* Most consistent route vs. Admiral; for stronger mixup, omit the {{clr|4|5HP}}<br>-{{clr|15|5LK}} > {{clr|15|2LP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} can also work, but corner juggle is awkward
* If very deep in the corner, you may need to dash out before starting the juggle due to turnaround bug
* If very deep in the corner, you may need to dash out before starting the juggle due to turnaround bug
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=183 video]<br>(3:03)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kBbZvUxefo||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:Stand/[Crouch] Throw, dash '''2LK''' > '''2LP''' > '''cl 5HK'''
:Stand / [Crouch] Throw,
:dash '''{{clr|15|2LK}}''' > '''{{clr|15|2LP}}''' > '''{{clr|4|cl.5HK}}'''
| damage=40%<br>[~36%]
| damage=40%<br>[~36%]
| location=Near corner
| location=Near corner
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* The previous route can work on these characters, but is very inconsistent
* The previous route can work on these characters, but is very inconsistent
* Pushing a strong mixup is more important than getting optimal juggle damage in the corner
* Pushing a strong mixup is more important than getting optimal juggle damage in the corner
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=190 video]<br>(3:10)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_ReQ1hZ4WU||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:Stand/[Crouch] Throw, dash '''2LP/2LK''' > '''cl 5HK'''
:Stand / [Crouch] Throw,
:dash '''{{clr|15|2LP}}/{{clr|15|2LK}}''' > '''{{clr|4|cl.5HK}}'''
| damage=37%<br>[~33%]
| damage=37%<br>[~33%]
| location=Near corner
| location=Near corner
| charspecific=Drunk Jackie
| charspecific=Drunk Jackie
| description=
| description=
* Use '''2LP''' if juggling earlier; '''2LK''' only works very late and is hard to time
* Use '''{{clr|15|2LP}}''' if juggling earlier; '''{{clr|15|2LK}}''' only works very late and is hard to time
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=196 video]<br>(3:16)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=844xqWIFNBs||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:6HP/4HP Stand Throw, dash 2HK
:{{clr|4|6HP}}/{{clr|4|4HP}} Stand Throw, dash '''{{clr|4|2HK}}'''
| damage=33%
| damage=33%
| location=Midscreen
| location=Midscreen
| charspecific=Yeung, Admiral, Drunk, Dragonball Jackie
| charspecific=Yeung, Admiral, Drunk, Dragonball Jackie
| description=
| description=
* Weak midscreen juggle after throw<br>-Must 2HK near the end of the dash
* Weak midscreen juggle after throw<br>-Must {{clr|4|2HK}} near the end of the dash
* vs. '''Yeung''': using OTG relaunch is a better idea
* vs. '''Yeung''': using OTG relaunch is a better idea
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=204 video]<br>(3:24)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1A2hI3nir8||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:3HP/1HP Crouch Throw, dash 2HK
:{{clr|4|3HP}}/{{clr|4|1HP}} Crouch Throw, dash '''{{clr|4|2HK}}'''
| damage=~29%
| damage=~29%
| location=Midscreen
| location=Midscreen
| charspecific=Lau, Yeung,<br>Admiral Jackie,<br>Kim, M. Lion
| charspecific=Lau, Yeung,<br>Admiral Jackie,<br>Kim, M. Lion
| description=
| description=
* Weak midscreen juggle after crouch throw<br>-Must 2HK near the end of the dash
* Weak midscreen juggle after crouch throw<br>-Must {{clr|4|2HK}} near the end of the dash
* vs. '''Yeung''': using OTG relaunch is a better idea
* vs. '''Yeung''': using OTG relaunch is a better idea
* Throw damage varies based on relative mashing speed between players
* Throw damage varies based on relative mashing speed between players
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=209 video]<br>(3:29)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydKB2-Qw6HU||center}}
|}}
|}}


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=<big>'''Overhead Combos'''</big>=
=<big>'''Overhead Combos'''</big>=


''Combo Note: In most cases, the opponent must be crouching to make the first hit of 6HK whiff, reducing M. Lion's pushback''
''Combo Note: In most cases, the opponent must be crouching to make the first hit of {{clr|4|6HK}} whiff, reducing M. Lion's pushback''


{{ComboHeader-JCFoF}}
{{ComboHeader2-JCFoF}}
{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:6HK, 2LP xx mash 646'''LP''',
:{{clr|4|6HK}}, {{clr|15|2LP}} xx mash {{clr|15|646'''LP'''}},
:dash [2LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK]
:dash [{{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}]
| damage=41%*
| damage=41%*
| location=Anywhere
| location=Anywhere
| charspecific=Universal*<br>'''(crouching)'''
| charspecific=Universal*<br>'''(crouching)'''
| description=
| description=
* Note: see '''[Hitconfirms Section]''' for character-specific juggle details after 646LP
* Note: see '''[Hitconfirms Section]''' for character-specific juggle details after {{clr|15|646LP}}
* Can use 2LK > 5LP for easier confirm, but damage doesn't change
* Can use {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|15|5LP}} for easier confirm, but damage doesn't change
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=215 video]<br>(3:35)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhM9EMeUsKQ||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:6HK, 2LK > 5LP xx mash 646'''HP''',
:{{clr|4|6HK}}, {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|15|5LP}} xx mash {{clr|4|646'''HP'''}},
:(dash) 2LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK '''(stun)'''
:(dash) {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} '''(stun)'''
| damage=100%<br>(57%)
| damage=100%<br>(57%)
| location=Corner
| location=Corner
| charspecific=Universal*<br>'''(crouching)'''
| charspecific=Universal*<br>'''(crouching)'''
| description=
| description=
* Note: see '''[Hitconfirms Section]''' for character-specific juggle details after corner 646HP
* Note: see '''[Hitconfirms Section]''' for character-specific juggle details after corner {{clr|4|646HP}}
* Stuns everyone except '''M. Lion''' (high stun) & '''Drunk Jackie''' (weaker juggle)
* Stuns everyone except '''M. Lion''' (high stun) & '''Drunk Jackie''' (weaker juggle)
* vs. '''Thorsten''': after 6HK use '''2LK > 2LP > 5LP''', then microdash 1f before 5LK (very impractical)
* vs. '''Thorsten''': after {{clr|4|6HK}} use '''{{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|15|2LP}} > {{clr|15|5LP}}''', then microdash 1f before {{clr|15|5LK}} (very impractical)
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=223 video]<br>(3:43)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRNxhq9t9CA||center}}
|}}
|}}


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=<big>'''OTG Options'''</big>=
=<big>'''OTG Options'''</big>=


{{ComboHeader-JCFoF}}
{{ComboHeader2-JCFoF}}
{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:2HK, 5LK, 2HK
:{{clr|4|2HK}}, {{clr|15|5LK}}, {{clr|4|2HK}}
| damage=~12%
| damage=~12%
| location=Midscreen
| location=Midscreen
| charspecific=Universal
| charspecific=Universal
| description=
| description=
* Basic OTG combo. Dash before 5LK if midscreen.
* Basic OTG combo. Dash before {{clr|15|5LK}} if midscreen.
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=248 video]<br>(4:08)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM8HCS5CASo||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:5LK, (link) mash 646'''LP''',
:{{clr|15|5LK}}, (link) mash {{clr|15|646'''LP'''}},
:dash out of corner, repeat
:dash out of corner, repeat
| damage=100%
| damage=100%
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| charspecific=Yeung
| charspecific=Yeung
| description=
| description=
* Yeung OTG infinite. Must slightly delay the 646LP (not a special cancel)
* Yeung OTG infinite. Must slightly delay the {{clr|15|646LP}} (not a special cancel)
* Starting midscreen will almost always take you to the corner after one rep
* Starting midscreen will almost always take you to the corner after one rep
* Does incredibly low damage each rep; more likely to time out than kill.  
* Does incredibly low damage each rep; more likely to time out than kill.  
* If Yeung has the life lead, you may need to use a reset at some point.
* If Yeung has the life lead, you may need to use a reset at some point.
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=255 video]<br>(4:15)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwpY4A4qb_s||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:5LK, dash 5LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK
:{{clr|15|5LK}}, dash {{clr|15|5LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}
| damage=~26%
| damage=~26%
| location=Anywhere
| location=Anywhere
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| description=
| description=
* Yeung OTG juggle - not an infinite, but easy with good damage + positioning
* Yeung OTG juggle - not an infinite, but easy with good damage + positioning
* If Yeung is backturned (after 6HP/4HP Throw), won't work midscreen<br>-Needs an alternate juggle route
* If Yeung is backturned (after {{clr|4|6HP}}/{{clr|4|4HP}} Throw), won't work midscreen<br>-Needs an alternate juggle route
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=274 video]<br>(4:34)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CKAT9LZVfI||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:2HK, 2LK xx 236HP  
:{{clr|4|2HK}}, {{clr|15|2LK}} xx {{clr|4|236HP}}
| damage=8% +<br>6% chip
| damage=8% +<br>6% chip
| location=Midscreen
| location=Midscreen
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| description=
| description=
* Sends Yeung near fullscreen into a meaty bomb for extra chip damage
* Sends Yeung near fullscreen into a meaty bomb for extra chip damage
* Must start 2HK from very close range
* Must start {{clr|4|2HK}} from very close range
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=283 video]<br>(4:43)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSeT9NWSwU0||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:5LK, 2LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK, jump,
:(Evil Lion only)
:j.LP > j.LK > j.HP, land 2LK (repeat)
:{{clr|15|5LK}}, {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}, jump,
:{{clr|15|j.LP}} > {{clr|15|j.LK}} > {{clr|4|j.HP}}, land {{clr|15|2LK}} (repeat)
| damage=100%
| damage=100%
| location=Corner
| location=Corner
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| description=
| description=
* '''Evil Lion''' OTG Infinite (incredibly difficult)
* '''Evil Lion''' OTG Infinite (incredibly difficult)
* Neutral jump after 6HP/4HP Throw (backturned knockdown)
* Neutral jump after {{clr|4|6HP}}/{{clr|4|4HP}} Throw (backturned knockdown)
* Forward jump after regular knockdown, dash out of corner each rep
* Forward jump after regular knockdown, dash out of corner each rep
* Must delay the j.LP as late as possible, and hit 2LK immediately after landing
* Must delay the {{clr|15|j.LP}} as late as possible, and hit {{clr|15|2LK}} immediately after landing
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=291 video]<br>(4:51)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCi5wGmdQ6A||center}}
|}}
|}}


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<!---Combos that don't fall into other categories, plus random, impractical stuff like dash light infinites or "style combos" that aren't likely to actually be used in a match--->
<!---Combos that don't fall into other categories, plus random, impractical stuff like dash light infinites or "style combos" that aren't likely to actually be used in a match--->


{{ComboHeader-JCFoF}}
{{ComboHeader2-JCFoF}}
{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:Wakeup LK, dash 2LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK
:{{clr|15|Getup LK}}, dash {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}
| damage=Up to<br>41%
| damage=Up to<br>41%
| location=Near Corner
| location=Near Corner
| charspecific=Universal*
| charspecific=Universal*
| description=
| description=
* Note: Juggle options are the same as after 646LP<br>-See '''[Hitconfirms Section]''' for character-specific juggle details
* Note: Juggle options are the same as after {{clr|15|646LP}}<br>-See '''[Hitconfirms Section]''' for character-specific juggle details
* Depending on the distance from the corner, you may have to improvise a less optimal juggle<br>Ex: 2LK > cl 5HK; 2LK > 5LP > far 5HP
* Depending on the distance from the corner, you may have to improvise a less optimal juggle<br>Ex: {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}; {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|15|5LP}} > {{clr|4|far.5HP}}
* Lighter characters allow more time to dash in for the juggle, enabling combo farther away from the corner
* Lighter characters allow more time to dash in for the juggle, enabling combo farther away from the corner
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=328 video]<br>(5:28)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijne1ICMmks||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:Pursuit Counter, dash 2LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK
:Pursuit Counter, dash {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}
| damage=Up to<br>38%
| damage=Up to<br>38%
| location=Anywhere
| location=Anywhere
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| description=
| description=
* Opponents fall very slowly, giving plenty of time for a juggle
* Opponents fall very slowly, giving plenty of time for a juggle
* vs. '''Lau, Admiral, Sam, Kim, M. Lion''': 2LK > 2LP > cl 5HK is much more consistent<br>-If attempting the optimal juggle, delay your dash and juggle as late as possible
* vs. '''Lau, Admiral, Sam, Kim, M. Lion''': {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|15|2LP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} is much more consistent<br>-If attempting the optimal juggle, delay your dash and juggle as late as possible
* vs. '''Drunk Jackie''': juggle with 2LK > cl 5HK
* vs. '''Drunk Jackie''': juggle with {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=335 video]<br>(5:35)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OwPAyBvj14||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:2LK > 2LP > 6HK (2 hits), 5LP xx mash 646LP
:{{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|15|2LP}} > {{clr|4|6HK}} (2 hits),
:{{clr|15|5LP}} xx mash {{clr|15|646LP}}
| damage=24%+
| damage=24%+
| location=Anywhere
| location=Anywhere
| charspecific=Yeung<br>'''(Crouching)'''
| charspecific=Yeung<br>'''(Crouching)'''
| description=
| description=
* Both hits of 6HK combo due to crouching Yeung's expanding hurtbox
* Both hits of {{clr|4|6HK}} combo due to crouching Yeung's expanding hurtbox
* Can convert this into the Yeung OTG infinite
* Can convert this into the Yeung OTG infinite
* Lion can also chain into 6HP vs. crouching Yeung, but this is always unsafe on hit
* Lion can also chain into {{clr|4|6HP}} vs. crouching Yeung, but this is always unsafe on hit
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=341 video]<br>(5:41)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2NW30pwVq8||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:236HP Bomb, dash + forward jump,
:{{clr|4|236HP Bomb}}, dash + forward jump,
:instant j.LK > j.LP > j.HK > j.HP, mash 646'''HP''',
:{{clr|15|j.LK}} > {{clr|15|j.LP}} > {{clr|4|j.HK}} > {{clr|4|j.HP}}, mash {{clr|4|646'''HP'''}},
:2LK > cl 5HK '''(stun)'''
:{{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} '''(stun)'''
| damage=100%
| damage=100%
| location=Corner
| location=Corner
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* Extremely impractical novelty combo
* Extremely impractical novelty combo
* Air normals must be chained slowly to allow a combo after landing
* Air normals must be chained slowly to allow a combo after landing
* Kim & Thorsten will be stunned by just the 646HP
* Kim & Thorsten will be stunned by just the {{clr|4|646HP}}
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=348 video]<br>(5:48)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NelKnI4N4r8||center}}
|}}
 
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
:Short hop + {{clr|15|LK Drone Call}},
:Self Destruct (P) '''(stun)'''
:(during {{clr|8|Super}})
| damage=varies
| location=Anywhere
| charspecific=Everyone but Thorsten, M. Lion
| description=
* If all 3 drones and all 5 hits of Self Destruct hit, all normal-stun characters become dizzied
* This relies on the opponent trying to approach Chibi-Lion for a punish, with a fairly specific timing/spacing
* After stun, you can either call drones + explode again or get a full combo if the {{clr|8|Super}} transformation ends
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cBJBK_nlzs||center}}
|}}
|}}


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<!---Combos that only work as Boss Version--->
<!---Combos that only work as Boss Version--->


{{ComboHeader-JCFoF}}
{{ComboHeader2-JCFoF}}
{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:Mash 646'''LP''', dash 2LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK,
:Mash {{clr|15|646'''LP'''}},
:dash 2LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK '''(stun)'''
:dash {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}},
:dash {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} '''(stun)'''
| damage=100%
| damage=100%
| location=Anywhere
| location=Anywhere
| charspecific=Yeung*, Sam, Kim, Dragonball Jackie
| charspecific=Yeung*, Sam, Kim, Dragonball Jackie
| description=
| description=
* vs. '''Yeung''': The 2nd juggle must be done as she is very low to the ground<br>-Do a full dash after 1st juggle, then use '''5LK''' instead of 2LK for consistency
* vs. '''Yeung''': The 2nd juggle must be done as she is very low to the ground<br>-Do a full dash after 1st juggle, then use '''{{clr|15|5LK}}''' instead of {{clr|15|2LK}} for consistency
* This route allows a stun combo from raw 646LP, which is a great punish starter in many matchups
* This route allows a stun combo from raw {{clr|15|646LP}}, which is a great punish starter in many matchups
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=371 video]<br>(6:11)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyz3wpeF9PI||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:2LP xx mash 646'''LP''', dash 2LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK,
:{{clr|15|2LP}} xx mash {{clr|15|646'''LP'''}},
:dash 2LK > cl 5HK > cl 5HP '''(stun)'''
:dash {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}},
:dash {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} '''(stun)'''
| damage=100%
| damage=100%
| location=Anywhere
| location=Anywhere
| charspecific=Lau
| charspecific=Lau
| description=
| description=
* It is hard to get the usual 2LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK juggle vs. Lau<br>-Try doing the 2LK as early as possible while still being in cl 5HP proximity
* It is hard to get the usual {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} juggle vs. Lau<br>-Try doing the {{clr|15|2LK}} as early as possible while still being in {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} proximity
* One light normal is needed for stun because the ending juggle is slightly weaker
* One light normal is needed for stun because the ending juggle is slightly weaker
* The spacing for the final juggle is very tight; must be directly under Lau
* The spacing for the final juggle is very tight; must be directly under Lau
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=380 video]<br>(6:20)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE5EsJoeRMM||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:2LK > 2LP xx mash 646'''LP''', dash 2LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK,
:{{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|15|2LP}} xx mash {{clr|15|646'''LP'''}},
:dash 5LK > cl 5HK > far 5HP '''(stun)'''
:dash {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}},
:dash {{clr|15|5LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} > {{clr|4|far.5HP}} '''(stun)'''
| damage=100%
| damage=100%
| location=Anywhere
| location=Anywhere
| charspecific=Admiral Jackie
| charspecific=Admiral Jackie
| description=
| description=
* Using '''5LK''' instead of 2LK in the second juggle will time the hit as low as possible, making it easier
* Using '''{{clr|15|5LK}}''' instead of {{clr|15|2LK}} in the second juggle will time the hit as low as possible, making it easier
* Two light normals are needed for stun because the ending juggle is slightly weaker
* Two light normals are needed for stun because the ending juggle is slightly weaker
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=389 video]<br>(6:29)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYOj3wX2F_0||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:2LK > 5LP xx 646'''LP''', dash 2LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK,
:{{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|15|5LP}} xx {{clr|15|646'''LP'''}},
:dash 2LK > cl 5HK > [cl 5HP] '''(stun)'''
:dash {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}},
:dash {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} > [{{clr|4|cl.5HP}}] '''(stun)'''
| damage=100%<br>(59%)
| damage=100%<br>(59%)
| location=Midscreen to Corner
| location=Midscreen to Corner
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| description=
| description=
* If you can reach the corner, this route will stun Thorsten
* If you can reach the corner, this route will stun Thorsten
* If you end outside the corner, omit [cl 5HP] in second juggle<br>-Won't stun, but still does good damage
* If you end outside the corner, omit [{{clr|4|cl.5HP}}] in second juggle<br>-Won't stun, but still does good damage
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=399 video]<br>(6:39)
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq3fhkHXZbU||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:2LK > 2LP > 5LP xx mash 646'''LP''',  
:{{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|15|2LP}} > {{clr|15|5LP}} xx mash {{clr|15|646'''LP'''}},  
:dash 2LK > cl 5HK, dash 2LK > cl 5HK
:dash {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|15|2LP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}},
| damage=52%
:dash {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} '''(stun)'''
| damage=100%
| location=Anywhere
| location=Anywhere
| charspecific=Drunk Jackie
| charspecific=Drunk Jackie
| description=
| description=
* M. Lion can't do much to extend his damage vs. Drunk Jackie due to his awkward juggles
* In order to stun, Lion must get very close during the final juggle
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=408 video]<br>(6:48)
** Very strict timing to get close enough and juggle {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} low enough
** If you end in the corner, it is much easier
** Any other route will do good damage, but won't stun (i.e. {{clr|4|5HK}} > {{clr|4|Far 5HP}})
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMlB1quHjwI||center}}
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:2LK > 2LP > 5LP xx 646'''LP''',  
:{{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|15|2LP}} > {{clr|15|5LP}} xx {{clr|15|{{clr|15|646'''LP'''}}}},  
:dash 2LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK,
:dash {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}},
:2LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK
:{{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl/far.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}}
| damage=64%
| damage=64%
| location=Near Corner
| location=Near Corner
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| description=
| description=
* Must end in the corner for the final juggle to connect
* Must end in the corner for the final juggle to connect
* Midscreen, it is technically possible to add a 2LP > cl 5HK juggle, but requires frame perfect timing<br>-Better to just go for a mixup or use meaty 236LP Bomb
** {{clr|4|Far 5HP}} usually comes out, but damage/stun is slightly higher if you can get {{clr|4|Close 5HP}}
* Lion can also add a 6HP midscreen, but this sends Lion away fullscreen for no mixup
* Midscreen, it is technically possible to add a {{clr|15|2LP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} juggle, but requires frame perfect timing
| video=[https://youtu.be/tRvfO_yRsAw?t=414 video]<br>(6:54)
** Better to just go for a mixup or use meaty {{clr|15|236LP Bomb}}
|}}
** Lion can also add a {{clr|4|6HP}} midscreen, but this sends Lion away fullscreen for no mixup
 
| video={{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASv-_9Ot9uc||center}}
{{Combo-JCFoF
| notation=-----
| damage=-----
| location=-----
| charspecific=-----
| description=-----
| video=-----
|}}
|}}


{{Combo-JCFoF
{{Combo2-JCFoF
| notation=
| notation=
:(Stand/Crouch Throw + first juggle),
:(Stand/Crouch Throw + first juggle),
:walk/dash 2LK > cl 5HK > cl 5HP
:walk/dash {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}}
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* See '''"Throw Combos"''' section to see the first juggle route for each character
* See '''"Throw Combos"''' section to see the first juggle route for each character
* Far 5HP at the end can work on some characters, but gives less time for Lion to reposition
* {{clr|4|far.5HP}} at the end can work on some characters, but gives less time for Lion to reposition
* vs. '''M. Lion, Admiral, Dragonball Jackie''': 2LK > cl 5HP > cl 5HK also works on final juggle
* vs. '''M. Lion, Admiral, Dragonball Jackie''': {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HP}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} also works on final juggle
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:dash 2LK > cl 5HK, dash 2LK > cl 5HK '''(stun)'''
:dash {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}},
:dash {{clr|15|2LK}} > {{clr|4|cl.5HK}} '''(stun)'''
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* Stun combo from a stray bomb hit
* Stun combo from a stray bomb hit
* vs. '''M. Lion''': add a '''cl 5HP''' at the end to stun<br>-Juggle must end fully in the corner
* vs. '''M. Lion''': add a '''{{clr|4|cl.5HP}}''' at the end to stun<br>-Juggle must end fully in the corner
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M. Lion's Combo Video Guide - Spabobin

Overview

Combos

Strategy

Kung-Fu Master version

Combo Section Info (click to expand)
Notation Chained Normals are denoted by an angled bracket ">" between hits
--If part of an Autocombo, include this info; e.g. 5LP > 5HP (Autocombo)
Rapid Fire Normals are denoted by a multiplier 'x'
--Ex: 2LP x3
Special/Super cancels are denoted by 'xx'
--Ex: 2HK xx 236HP
Links are denoted by a comma
--Ex: 5LK, dash 2LK
[Square brackets] can mean different things depending on context:
--A sequence that must be repeatedly looped: [2LP, dash 2LP] = dash 2LP infinite
--Part of a combo that is only possible under certain circumstances, like a juggle ender that only works in the corner
--An optional attack that may be added for more damage; i.e. 2LK 2LP [cl.5HP], where cl.5HP can add damage vs. standing opponents
Damage The amount of damage a move does. May be listed in a few ways:
100% = The combo is a Touch of Death (stuns or kills outright)
varies = The possible damage changes significantly based on various factors
x% = Percent of health bar depleted when used against a full-health Jackie Chan character (unless character specific)
--Because of the way damage scaling and Defense Values work in Fists of Fire, using 'Base Damage' for combos is not very useful
--Damage variation between opponents is minimal, generally within a 1% range
Location Where on the screen the combo can be performed
Anywhere = The combo is not affected by screen position
Corner = The combo must be performed in the corner, or started close enough to the corner for a particular link/juggle to work
--May list qualifiers like 'Near Corner' or 'Midscreen to Corner' to specify ranges that the combo can be used
Midscreen = The combo must not be performed on a fully cornered opponent
Character Specific The characters that a combo can be performed on
Universal = No character restrictions
May list qualifiers like 'Standing', 'Crouching', or 'Everyone except (character)'
If an asterisk (*) appears next to a character's name, check Notes for specific conditions that may apply to that character.
Notes Extra relevant information about the combo that may not easily be explained in the original notation
May include slight variations to the combo that are not important enough to warrant their own entry.
Video A link to the combo being performed. If part of a larger video, include the timestamp.

Hitconfirm Combos

Combo Note: the easiest post-stun combo is j.HK > j.HP, mash 646LP, juggle 2HK. Be as close as possible when starting the forward jump
cl.5HK > cl.5HP xx mash 646LP will also KO, but only works against Lau, Thorsten, Drunk Jackie, and Dragonball Jackie
2LK is more reliable for midscreen juggles, and always works after air resets. 5LK is more useful in some character-specific corner juggles.
When using 646HP in combos, you must be very close to the corner or Lion will cross through, making it very unsafe.

Notation Damage Location Characters Notes
2LK > 2LP > 5LP xx mash 646LP,
dash 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK

54%

Anywhere

Everyone but
Drunk Jackie

  • Lion's only real standard hitconfirm; 2LP > 5LP chains more slowly than usual
  • Juggling with 2LK > cl.5HK > far.5HP is easier to time, but gives much worse positioning
  • In the corner, this sets up Lion for a strong meaty/throw mixup
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2LK > 2LP > 5LP xx mash 646LP,
dash 2LK > 2LP > cl.5HK

48%

Anywhere

Drunk Jackie,
Lau

  • Same as previous combo, but the juggle is cut short
    • M. Lion can never get both heavy normals to juggle vs. Drunk Jackie
  • This route is recommended vs. Lau due to juggle inconsistencies
    • To get the stronger route, juggle must occur at the earliest or latest possible timing
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2LK, 2LP x2 > 5LP xx mash 646HP,
(dash) 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK (stun)

100%
(69%)

Corner

Everyone but Lau,
Admiral Jackie,
Drunk Jackie

  • vs. Kim-Maree & Thorsten: microdash before 2LK
  • vs. Thorsten & M. Lion: no stun, but juggle still works
  • vs. Yeung: juggle is very lenient; switch sides first to make it easier
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2LK, 2LP x2 > 5LP xx mash 646HP,
dash 5LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK (stun)

100%
(61%)

Corner

Lau,
Admiral Jackie,
*Drunk Jackie

  • vs. Lau & Admiral: microdash 5LK required; 2LK will whiff
  • vs. Drunk Jackie: no stun because full juggle can't connect
    -Use microdash 5LK > cl.5HK (~61% dmg)
  • 5LK will work on the other characters too, but has more strict timing
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cl.5HK > cl.5HP xx mash 646LP,
dash 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK

76%

Anywhere

Lau, Thorsten, Drunk, Dragonball (Standing)

  • Strong punish combo, especially useful for optimal post-stun damage
  • On other characters, the cl.5HP whiffs
  • vs. Drunk: end with 2LK > 2LP > cl.5HK
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cl.5HK > 2HP (1st hit) xx mash 646LP,
dash 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK

69%

Anywhere

Admiral, M. Lion (Standing)

  • Weaker version of the previous combo that works on more characters
    • This also works on Lau, Thorsten, Drunk, & Dragonball, but no reason to use it
  • See earlier combos for character-specific juggle information
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236LP Bomb,
dash 2LK > 5LP xx mash 646LP,
dash 2LK > cl.5HK > far.5HP (stun)

100%

Anywhere

Everyone but Thorsten & M. Lion

  • Requires all 5 hits of bomb to connect
  • vs. Drunk Jackie & Lau: juggle with dash 2LK > 5LP > cl.5HK instead
    -The normal route can work on Lau, but is less consistent
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236LP Bomb,
dash cl.5HK > 2HP (1st hit) xx mash 646LP,
dash 2LK > cl.5HK > far.5HP (stun)

100%

Anywhere

Thorsten

  • Extremely difficult variation of previous combo to stun Thorsten midscreen
  • Bomb must hit from as close as possible while still getting all 5 hits
  • This ending juggle is much more lenient than the usual 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK route
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236LP Bomb,
[dash 5LP] xx mash 646HP,
2LK/5LK > cl.5HK (stun)

100%

Corner

Universal

  • Rrefer to previous 646HP combos for character-specific juggle information
  • [Dash 5LP] is only required vs. Drunk Jackie, Thorsten, & M. Lion
  • vs. Drunk Jackie: juggle with 5LK > far.5HP instead
  • vs. M. Lion: juggle with 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK instead
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Juggle timing window (in Frames): Midscreen 646LP into 2LK/5LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK
Opponent's Character 2LK Juggle 5LK Juggle Notes
Thorsten 4 -- From most midscreen hitconfirms, 5LK > cl.5HP is impossible
M. Lion 5 -- From most midscreen hitconfirms, 5LK > cl.5HP is impossible (or 1f timing at best)
Lau 3 (8) 2 2 Full 2LK juggle only works on the first 3 or final 2 frames; 8f in the middle causes cl.5HK to whiff
-5LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK only works on final 2 frames, very difficult
-Recommend using 2LK > cl.5HK instead
Kim-Maree 9 5 --
Dragonball Jackie 12 8 --
Drunk Jackie 12 10 End juggle with only cl.5HK; can't juggle an additional 5HP
-Wait until near the end of Lion's dash, as Drunk Jackie gets launched far away
Admiral Jackie 13 9 --
Sam 14 12 On the final possible 2LK juggle frame, Sam gets juggled backwards with 2LK (still extremely lenient)
Yeung 19 16 Both are very lenient; there is 1f where 2LK juggles backwards, so 5LK may be better
-It is strategically better to let Yeung land, then use OTG infinite if you can execute it


Throw Combos

Note: Each character has their most consistent throw juggle listed, but more optimal routes are often possible with strict timing.
Crouch Throw damage varies based on relative mashing speed between players.
Stand Throw leaves the opponent in a backturned state for a stronger mixup.

Notation Damage Location Characters Notes
Stand / [Crouch] Throw,
dash 5LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK

46%
[~42%]

Near corner

Yeung, Dragonball Jackie

  • If you can't quite get point blank for the juggle, omit the cl.5HP
  • vs. Yeung: using OTG relaunch is a better idea
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Stand / [Crouch] Throw,
dash 5LK > cl.5HK > far.5HP

46%
[~42%]

Near corner

Admiral Jackie

  • Most consistent route vs. Admiral; for stronger mixup, omit the 5HP
    -5LK > 2LP > cl.5HK can also work, but corner juggle is awkward
  • If very deep in the corner, you may need to dash out before starting the juggle due to turnaround bug
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Stand / [Crouch] Throw,
dash 2LK > 2LP > cl.5HK

40%
[~36%]

Near corner

Lau, Thorsten, Sam, Kim, M. Lion

  • The previous route can work on these characters, but is very inconsistent
  • Pushing a strong mixup is more important than getting optimal juggle damage in the corner
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Stand / [Crouch] Throw,
dash 2LP/2LK > cl.5HK

37%
[~33%]

Near corner

Drunk Jackie

  • Use 2LP if juggling earlier; 2LK only works very late and is hard to time
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6HP/4HP Stand Throw, dash 2HK

33%

Midscreen

Yeung, Admiral, Drunk, Dragonball Jackie

  • Weak midscreen juggle after throw
    -Must 2HK near the end of the dash
  • vs. Yeung: using OTG relaunch is a better idea
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3HP/1HP Crouch Throw, dash 2HK

~29%

Midscreen

Lau, Yeung,
Admiral Jackie,
Kim, M. Lion

  • Weak midscreen juggle after crouch throw
    -Must 2HK near the end of the dash
  • vs. Yeung: using OTG relaunch is a better idea
  • Throw damage varies based on relative mashing speed between players
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Overhead Combos

Combo Note: In most cases, the opponent must be crouching to make the first hit of 6HK whiff, reducing M. Lion's pushback

Notation Damage Location Characters Notes
6HK, 2LP xx mash 646LP,
dash [2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK]

41%*

Anywhere

Universal*
(crouching)

  • Note: see [Hitconfirms Section] for character-specific juggle details after 646LP
  • Can use 2LK > 5LP for easier confirm, but damage doesn't change
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6HK, 2LK > 5LP xx mash 646HP,
(dash) 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK (stun)

100%
(57%)

Corner

Universal*
(crouching)

  • Note: see [Hitconfirms Section] for character-specific juggle details after corner 646HP
  • Stuns everyone except M. Lion (high stun) & Drunk Jackie (weaker juggle)
  • vs. Thorsten: after 6HK use 2LK > 2LP > 5LP, then microdash 1f before 5LK (very impractical)
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OTG Options

Notation Damage Location Characters Notes
2HK, 5LK, 2HK

~12%

Midscreen

Universal

  • Basic OTG combo. Dash before 5LK if midscreen.
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5LK, (link) mash 646LP,
dash out of corner, repeat

100%

Midscreen to Corner

Yeung

  • Yeung OTG infinite. Must slightly delay the 646LP (not a special cancel)
  • Starting midscreen will almost always take you to the corner after one rep
  • Does incredibly low damage each rep; more likely to time out than kill.
  • If Yeung has the life lead, you may need to use a reset at some point.
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5LK, dash 5LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK

~26%

Anywhere

Yeung

  • Yeung OTG juggle - not an infinite, but easy with good damage + positioning
  • If Yeung is backturned (after 6HP/4HP Throw), won't work midscreen
    -Needs an alternate juggle route
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2HK, 2LK xx 236HP

8% +
6% chip

Midscreen

Yeung

  • Sends Yeung near fullscreen into a meaty bomb for extra chip damage
  • Must start 2HK from very close range
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(Evil Lion only)
5LK, 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK, jump,
j.LP > j.LK > j.HP, land 2LK (repeat)

100%

Corner

Yeung

  • Evil Lion OTG Infinite (incredibly difficult)
  • Neutral jump after 6HP/4HP Throw (backturned knockdown)
  • Forward jump after regular knockdown, dash out of corner each rep
  • Must delay the j.LP as late as possible, and hit 2LK immediately after landing
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Miscellaneous Combos

Notation Damage Location Characters Notes
Getup LK, dash 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK

Up to
41%

Near Corner

Universal*

  • Note: Juggle options are the same as after 646LP
    -See [Hitconfirms Section] for character-specific juggle details
  • Depending on the distance from the corner, you may have to improvise a less optimal juggle
    Ex: 2LK > cl.5HK; 2LK > 5LP > far.5HP
  • Lighter characters allow more time to dash in for the juggle, enabling combo farther away from the corner
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Pursuit Counter, dash 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK

Up to
38%

Anywhere

Universal*

  • Opponents fall very slowly, giving plenty of time for a juggle
  • vs. Lau, Admiral, Sam, Kim, M. Lion: 2LK > 2LP > cl.5HK is much more consistent
    -If attempting the optimal juggle, delay your dash and juggle as late as possible
  • vs. Drunk Jackie: juggle with 2LK > cl.5HK
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2LK > 2LP > 6HK (2 hits),
5LP xx mash 646LP

24%+

Anywhere

Yeung
(Crouching)

  • Both hits of 6HK combo due to crouching Yeung's expanding hurtbox
  • Can convert this into the Yeung OTG infinite
  • Lion can also chain into 6HP vs. crouching Yeung, but this is always unsafe on hit
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236HP Bomb, dash + forward jump,
j.LK > j.LP > j.HK > j.HP, mash 646HP,
2LK > cl.5HK (stun)

100%

Corner

Kim-Maree,
Thorsten,
M. Lion

  • Extremely impractical novelty combo
  • Air normals must be chained slowly to allow a combo after landing
  • Kim & Thorsten will be stunned by just the 646HP
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Short hop + LK Drone Call,
Self Destruct (P) (stun)
(during Super)

varies

Anywhere

Everyone but Thorsten, M. Lion

  • If all 3 drones and all 5 hits of Self Destruct hit, all normal-stun characters become dizzied
  • This relies on the opponent trying to approach Chibi-Lion for a punish, with a fairly specific timing/spacing
  • After stun, you can either call drones + explode again or get a full combo if the Super transformation ends
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Evil Lion Combos

Notation Damage Location Characters Notes
Mash 646LP,
dash 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK,
dash 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK (stun)

100%

Anywhere

Yeung*, Sam, Kim, Dragonball Jackie

  • vs. Yeung: The 2nd juggle must be done as she is very low to the ground
    -Do a full dash after 1st juggle, then use 5LK instead of 2LK for consistency
  • This route allows a stun combo from raw 646LP, which is a great punish starter in many matchups
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2LP xx mash 646LP,
dash 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK,
dash 2LK > cl.5HK > cl.5HP (stun)

100%

Anywhere

Lau

  • It is hard to get the usual 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK juggle vs. Lau
    -Try doing the 2LK as early as possible while still being in cl.5HP proximity
  • One light normal is needed for stun because the ending juggle is slightly weaker
  • The spacing for the final juggle is very tight; must be directly under Lau
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2LK > 2LP xx mash 646LP,
dash 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK,
dash 5LK > cl.5HK > far.5HP (stun)

100%

Anywhere

Admiral Jackie

  • Using 5LK instead of 2LK in the second juggle will time the hit as low as possible, making it easier
  • Two light normals are needed for stun because the ending juggle is slightly weaker
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2LK > 5LP xx 646LP,
dash 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK,
dash 2LK > cl.5HK > [cl.5HP] (stun)

100%
(59%)

Midscreen to Corner

Thorsten

  • If you can reach the corner, this route will stun Thorsten
  • If you end outside the corner, omit [cl.5HP] in second juggle
    -Won't stun, but still does good damage
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2LK > 2LP > 5LP xx mash 646LP,
dash 2LK > 2LP > cl.5HK,
dash cl.5HK > cl.5HP (stun)

100%

Anywhere

Drunk Jackie

  • In order to stun, Lion must get very close during the final juggle
    • Very strict timing to get close enough and juggle cl.5HK low enough
    • If you end in the corner, it is much easier
    • Any other route will do good damage, but won't stun (i.e. 5HK > Far 5HP)
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2LK > 2LP > 5LP xx 646LP,
dash 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK,
2LK > cl/far.5HP > cl.5HK

64%

Near Corner

M. Lion

  • Must end in the corner for the final juggle to connect
    • Far 5HP usually comes out, but damage/stun is slightly higher if you can get Close 5HP
  • Midscreen, it is technically possible to add a 2LP > cl.5HK juggle, but requires frame perfect timing
    • Better to just go for a mixup or use meaty 236LP Bomb
    • Lion can also add a 6HP midscreen, but this sends Lion away fullscreen for no mixup
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(Stand/Crouch Throw + first juggle),
walk/dash 2LK > cl.5HK > cl.5HP

44-57%

Near Corner

Universal

  • See "Throw Combos" section to see the first juggle route for each character
  • far.5HP at the end can work on some characters, but gives less time for Lion to reposition
  • vs. M. Lion, Admiral, Dragonball Jackie: 2LK > cl.5HP > cl.5HK also works on final juggle
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236LP Bomb, dash 5LP xx mash 646LP,
dash 2LK > cl.5HK,
dash 2LK > cl.5HK (stun)

100%

Anywhere

Universal

  • Stun combo from a stray bomb hit
  • vs. M. Lion: add a cl.5HP at the end to stun
    -Juggle must end fully in the corner
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