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| combo = (((2L / 5M) > 2M) / 3M) > 3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > | | combo = (((2L / 5M) > 2M) / 3M) > 3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > j.M > (4M > 9jc > j.M)x2 > dl.5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.M > [2]8M, 5L > 3H | ||
| difficulty = hard | | difficulty = hard | ||
| damage = | | damage = 361 (2L) / 418 (5M) <br>/ 435 (3M) | ||
| bonusdamage = | | bonusdamage = | ||
| cost = 0 bar | | cost = 0 bar | ||
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| oppmetergain = ??? | | oppmetergain = ??? | ||
| location = {{Property-IS|Anywhere}} | | location = {{Property-IS|Anywhere}} | ||
| notes = Easier difficult BnB building off of the combos above. <br><br> [2]8M is premium knockdown ender in the event that the height/spacing is not in your favor to finish with 3H. If it isn't, the final 2H probably needed to hit lower. Alternately the final [2]8M can be omitted entirely at the cost of 10 damage. Whenever j.M is delayed, the target gains juggle height and also falls slower during the hits, which is necessary when trying to follow up with [2]8X (or even 3H with sufficient delay allowed by a good [2]8M, 4M link). Excess height can result in the later uses of j.M whiffing the third hit or even causing a crossunder if already close enough. Delaying the | | notes = Easier difficult BnB building off of the combos above. <br><br> [2]8M is premium knockdown ender in the event that the height/spacing is not in your favor to finish with 3H. If it isn't, the final 2H probably needed to hit lower. Alternately the final [2]8M can be omitted entirely at the cost of 10 damage, simplifying the combo. Whenever j.M is delayed, the target gains juggle height and also falls slower during the hits, which is necessary when trying to follow up with [2]8X (or even 3H with sufficient delay allowed by a good [2]8M, 4M link). Excess height can result in the later uses of j.M whiffing the third hit or even causing a crossunder if already close enough. Delaying the preceding 5M > 2H counteracts this. Slightly delaying the preceding 2H can prevent crossunders even if the other delayed timings are unideal (but will drop if there isn't ''enough'' height). <br><br> (4M > 9jc > j.M)x2 uses up the allowable number of 4M usages before IPS, and starting this combo with 5M also puts the combo at the maximum number of 5M usages before IPS. (4M > 9jc > j.M)x2 does 22 damage. | ||
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| combo = (((2L / 5M) > 2M) / 3M) > 3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > | | combo = (((2L / 5M) > 2M) / 3M) > 3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > [6] (crossunder) > 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > j.M > 4M > 9jc > j.M > dl.5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.M > [2]8M, 5L > 3H | ||
| difficulty = hard | | difficulty = hard | ||
| damage = | | damage = 359 (2L) / 439 (5M) <br>/ 452 (3M) | ||
| bonusdamage = | |||
| cost = 0 bar | |||
| metergain = ??? | |||
| oppmetergain = ??? | |||
| location = {{Property-IS|Anywhere}} | |||
| notes = Crossunder version of the above. After [2]8M normalizes the spacing between Ina and her victim, 4M > 9jc > j.M actually gives enough time for Ina to walk forward and side-swap. This combo takes the combo above and moves one of the 4M > 9jc > j.M loops earlier into the combo to get the crossunder done. <br> <br> There should be just barely enough corner carry that between these two combos Ina can benefit from corner extensions regardless of where she is on the screen. If it isn't, it is very close. | |||
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| combo = (((2L / 5M) > 2M) / 3M) > 3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > j.M > (4M > 9jc > j.M)x2 > dl.5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.M > [2]8M, 5L > 3H > 214L > 236S | |||
| difficulty = hard | |||
| damage = 486 (2L) / 565 (5M) <br>/ 578 (3M) | |||
| bonusdamage = | | bonusdamage = | ||
| cost = 2 bar | | cost = 2 bar | ||
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| oppmetergain = ??? | | oppmetergain = ??? | ||
| location = {{Property-IS|Anywhere}} | | location = {{Property-IS|Anywhere}} | ||
| notes = | | notes = Super ender version. | ||
| video = | | video = | ||
}} | }} | ||
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| combo = 5M > 3H > 2S(5) scc [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > | | combo = 5M > 3H > 2S(5) scc [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > j.M > (4M > 9jc > j.M)x2 > dl.5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.M > [2]8M, 5L > 3H | ||
| difficulty = hard | | difficulty = hard | ||
| damage = | | damage = 452 | ||
| bonusdamage = | | bonusdamage = | ||
| cost = 1 SC | | cost = 1 SC | ||
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| combo = 5M > 3H > dl.214H, dl.3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > | | combo = 5M > 3H > dl.214H, dl.3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > j.M > (4M > 9jc > j.M)x2 > dl.5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.M > [2]8M, 5L > 3H | ||
| difficulty = hard | | difficulty = hard | ||
| damage = | | damage = 505 | ||
| bonusdamage = | | bonusdamage = | ||
| cost = 1 bar | | cost = 1 bar | ||
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| combo = (((2L / 5M) > 2M) / 3M) > 3H > ([2]8M, 4M > 9jc > dl.j.M)x2 [2]8L, 4M > 9jc > dl.j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > dl.j.M > dl.5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.M > ([2]8L,) 5L > 5M | | combo = (((2L / 5M) > 2M) / 3M) > 3H > ([2]8M, 4M > 9jc > dl.j.M)x2 [2]8L, 4M > 9jc > dl.j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > dl.j.M > dl.5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.M > ([2]8L,) 5L > 3H | ||
| difficulty = Harder | |||
| damage = 374 (380) (2L) <br>/ 457 (463) (5M) <br>/ 475 (481) (3M) | |||
| bonusdamage = | |||
| cost = 0 bar | |||
| metergain = ??? | |||
| oppmetergain = ??? | |||
| location = {{Property-IS|Anywhere}} | |||
| notes = Easier harder combo that grows directly out of the Medium difficulty BnB. The final [2]8L isn't worth all that much for what it is. | |||
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| combo = (((2L / 5M) > 2M) / 3M) > 3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > [6] > 4M > dl.j.M > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > dl.j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > dl.j.M > dl.5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.M > ([2]8L,) 5L > 3H | |||
| difficulty = Harder | | difficulty = Harder | ||
| damage = | | damage = 363 (369) (2L) <br>/ 441 (447) (5M) <br>/ 457 (463) (3M) | ||
| bonusdamage = | | bonusdamage = | ||
| cost = 0 bar | | cost = 0 bar | ||
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| oppmetergain = ??? | | oppmetergain = ??? | ||
| location = {{Property-IS|Anywhere}} | | location = {{Property-IS|Anywhere}} | ||
| notes = | | notes = Crossunder variant of the above that trades a bit more damage for significant side-swap carry, which can then theoretically be converted back into damage with a corner extension. | ||
| video = | | video = | ||
}} | }} |
Revision as of 00:00, 27 June 2024
Combos
Combo Notation Help | |
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Disclaimer: Combos are written by different authors, so the notation used can vary from the standard one. For additional information on terminology for Idol Showdown or fighting games in general, please consult the Idol Showdown Glossary or the Fighting Game Glossary. | |
#X | Input writted with numpad notation for the direction/motion input followed by the action. |
X > Y | X input is cancelled into Y. |
X, Y | X input is linked to Y, meaning Y is done after X's recovery frames. |
X~Y | This notation has two meanings: 1. Use attack X with followup Y. 2. Input X, and then within a few frames, input Y. Sometimes referred to as "kara cancelling". |
[X] | Input X is held down. |
{X} | Input is partially charged (as in, not tapped but not held to full charge either). |
(X) | Input X is optional. Typically, the combo will be easier without this input. |
X/Y | Choose between input X or input Y. |
#jc | Jump cancel. The number (7, 8, or 9) indicates which direction the jump cancel should be input if it is important to the combo. |
j.X | Jumping input X. X should be input while airborne. |
dl.X | Delayed input X. There will be some delay before inputting X. |
CH X | Counterhit with input X. This is used for combo starters that require counterhit confirm. |
OTG X | Input X while the opponent is knocked down but still able to be hit. |
X(n) | Number of hits of a multihit attack. If an attack is multihit and this is not specified, it is assumed to let the maximum number of hits complete before proceeding. |
scc | Superchat Cancel. Idol Showdown unique mechanic that allows you to cancel the recovery of one special into another special. |
General
(WIP, New character)
Midscreen
Combo | Difficulty | Damage | Cost | Meter Gain | Location |
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2L > 2M > 3H > 214L | Beginner | 179 | 0 bar | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
Basic cancel-only combo, without charge mechanics. | |||||
5M > 3H > 214L | Beginner | 217 | 0 bar | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
Confirms at max range of 5M > 3H, and is all you can really get without some sort of meter. | |||||
(((2L / 5M) > 2M) / 3M) > 3H > [2]8M, 5L > 3H > 214L | Easy | 258 (2L) / 323 (5M) / 328 (2M / 3M) |
0 bar | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
More sophisticated basic combo using charge moves. | |||||
((2L) > 5M) / (3M)) > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.2M > [2]8M, 5M > 3H > 214L | Easy | 282 (2L) / 359 (5M) / 331 (2M / 3M) |
0 bar | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
Slightly harder combo regrounding directly into Stagger-Ring Assault. | |||||
(((2L / 5M) > 2M) / 3M) > 3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5L > 5M > 3H | Medium | 302 (2L) / 380 (5M) / 393 (2M / 3M) |
0 bar | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
This combo is the basis for most of the others on the wiki. | |||||
(((2L / 5M) > 2M) / 3M) > 3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5L > 5M > 3H > 214L > 236S | Medium | 427 (2L) / 505 (5M) / 518 (2M / 3M) |
2 bar | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
As above but with a super ender. | |||||
5M > 3H > 2S(5) scc [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5L > 5M > 3H | Medium | 392 | 1 SC | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
Superchat Cancel poke confirm based on the above. Perform the scc at a 7-hit combo. | |||||
5M > 3H > dl.214H, dl.3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5L > 5M > 3H | Hard | 447 | 1 bar | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
Metered poke confirm based on the above. |
Combo | Difficulty | Damage | Cost | Meter Gain | Location |
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(((2L / 5M) > 2M) / 3M) > 3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > j.M > (4M > 9jc > j.M)x2 > dl.5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.M > [2]8M, 5L > 3H | Hard | 361 (2L) / 418 (5M) / 435 (3M) |
0 bar | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
Easier difficult BnB building off of the combos above. | |||||
(((2L / 5M) > 2M) / 3M) > 3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > [6] (crossunder) > 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > j.M > 4M > 9jc > j.M > dl.5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.M > [2]8M, 5L > 3H | Hard | 359 (2L) / 439 (5M) / 452 (3M) |
0 bar | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
Crossunder version of the above. After [2]8M normalizes the spacing between Ina and her victim, 4M > 9jc > j.M actually gives enough time for Ina to walk forward and side-swap. This combo takes the combo above and moves one of the 4M > 9jc > j.M loops earlier into the combo to get the crossunder done. | |||||
(((2L / 5M) > 2M) / 3M) > 3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > j.M > (4M > 9jc > j.M)x2 > dl.5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.M > [2]8M, 5L > 3H > 214L > 236S | Hard | 486 (2L) / 565 (5M) / 578 (3M) |
2 bar | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
Super ender version. | |||||
5M > 3H > 2S(5) scc [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > j.M > (4M > 9jc > j.M)x2 > dl.5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.M > [2]8M, 5L > 3H | Hard | 452 | 1 SC | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
Superchat Cancel poke confirm based on the above. Perform the scc at a 7-hit combo. | |||||
5M > 3H > dl.214H, dl.3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > j.M > (4M > 9jc > j.M)x2 > dl.5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.M > [2]8M, 5L > 3H | Hard | 505 | 1 bar | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
Metered poke confirm based on the above. | |||||
2L > 2M > 3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M, 3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M, 4H > 2H > 9jc > j.H, 5M > [2]8L, 4M > 9jc > j.M, 4H > 2H > 9jc > j.H, 5M > [2]8L, 4M > 9jc > j.M, 5L L L > 5M > 3H | Harder | 402 (2L) | 0 bar | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
This is the most optimal you get before you get to the insane 2L shit. | |||||
(((2L / 5M) > 2M) / 3M) > 3H > ([2]8M, 4M > 9jc > dl.j.M)x2 [2]8L, 4M > 9jc > dl.j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > dl.j.M > dl.5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.M > ([2]8L,) 5L > 3H | Harder | 374 (380) (2L) / 457 (463) (5M) / 475 (481) (3M) |
0 bar | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
Easier harder combo that grows directly out of the Medium difficulty BnB. The final [2]8L isn't worth all that much for what it is. | |||||
(((2L / 5M) > 2M) / 3M) > 3H > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M > [6] > 4M > dl.j.M > [2]8M, 4M > 9jc > dl.j.M > 5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > 4M > 9jc > dl.j.M > dl.5M > 2H > 9jc > dl.j.M > ([2]8L,) 5L > 3H | Harder | 363 (369) (2L) / 441 (447) (5M) / 457 (463) (3M) |
0 bar | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
Crossunder variant of the above that trades a bit more damage for significant side-swap carry, which can then theoretically be converted back into damage with a corner extension. | |||||
2L > 2M > 3H > ([2]8M, 4M > 9jc > j.M)x2, 5M > 2H > 9djc > j.M > ([2]8L,) 4M > 9jc > j.M, 5M > 2H > 9djc > j.M > ([2]8L,) 5L > 5M > 3H | Harder | 370 (2L) | 0 bar | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
Straightforward, high-damage combo using all four meterless Stagger-Rings. I think the above combo is easier to execute. |
Anti-air
Combo | Difficulty | Damage | Cost | Meter Gain | Location |
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Anti-Air 2H > 9jc > dl.j.H > 5M > dl.4M > 9jc > dl.j.M ([2]8L, 4M > dl.j.M)x2 > dl.5H > 2H > dl.j.M > [2]8M, 5L > 5M > 3H | Harder | 401 | 0 bar | ??? Opp: ??? |
Anywhere |
Wiki info WIP |