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Match Ups
Hyde
- Knowledge Checks
- 5[FF] is his sole overhead and is 33f startup (30 in Vorpal).
- 5FF 22A/B can check high shield attempts.
- Hyde's j.236X can be 3D'd through between the sword and the projectile hits.
- Neutral
Playing neutral against Hyde is a matter of dealing with his 236A. Dark Orbiter on its own is very good at shutting down Orie's approach options, and Hyde can use the A follow-up as a cheeky anti-air. Once 236A is out, Orie is forced to deal with it. The best option is to purple shield it, which starts RPS. Either Hyde will run all the way in and 2A or throw which can be checked with 5A, or he will 66C to call out the check. Getting hit by 66C hurts, and he can cancel into his FFs and then another special move to keep pressure on block.
- Offense
Hyde is blessed with both a meterless reversal and a strong, horizontal reversal super.
- Defense
As stated previously, Hyde has only one overhead and it is quite slow. Defending against Hyde is mostly a matter of dealing with his throw attempts, as he gets a combo in the corner. He can layer frame traps for days, making Shield the best option to deal with his pressure. Blocking Hyde deals a small amount of chip, but it's far better to block and play for cycle than get hit and explode. His rekkas are plus if delayed and can frame trap between follow-ups, but he will need to spend CS or meter to keep the last one safe. His other plus frame options are 22B, spaced 236A, and 5[C] 2Aw.
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Linne
Waldstein
- Knowledge Checks
- 360B is an excellent 6f abare tool but it will Gold Throw on hit.
- Neutral
Waldstein's neutral is surprisingly difficult to navigate for Orie thanks to his 22X. His long reaching buttons and clap cancels allow him to wall her out surprisingly effectively in tandem with is projectile. Her best option to deal with it is to farm GRD with Shield and dashblock her way into her normal attack range. If he whiffs a normal or a clap, she can usually punish with 236B.
- Offense
Wald's normals are horrendously slow. So slow, in fact, that it's very difficult for him to deal with -1 rebeats like 5C or 2C into 2Aw. His normals being great anti-airs also works against them as their grounded reach is quite limited. Outside of 360B range, Wald functionally cannot do anything about 214A~4B aside from attempt to spend meter to get out.
In terms of reversals, Wald has 360C for a fast, command grab reversal and 623C for a slow, strike reversal. Attempting to jump before the superflash on a read can be called out by his own air-unblockable 3C.
- Defense
Waldstein is a relatively traditional grappler. His main tools for fighting shield are his command grabs, but he also has overhead options with 6C and 236B. Because his 360B is so big, its only a good idea to Shield against his plus on block clap special when out of its range. Shielding within 360B range runs with a high risk of getting GRD broken. Wald is difficult to anti-air, as his j.C has tremendous downwards reach and he has j.2C to change his air momentum. His air options encourage using Stand shield, which again runs the risk of being command grabbed. Represent it as an option but be careful about it.
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Carmine
- Knowledge Checks
- 5BB starts RPS on block.
- 5BB 22A is a +2oB frame trap, encouraging crouch Shield after 5BB.
- 5BBB is a command throw that Gold Throws on block, punishing Shield.
- Neutral
- Offense
- Defense
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Orie
Gordeau
Merkava
Vatista
Seth
Yuzuriha
- Knowledge Checks
- Full charge 5FF is unblockable.
- Yuzu has air options in stance and has a dodge she can use on the ground and in the air.
- Neutral
Dashblocking is incredibly important in this matchup, as well as checking Yuzu with 236B and whiff punishing her with 236[B] and 236C. Using Divine Thrust depends entirely on how much the Yuzu player is willing to teleport, as her teleporting behind Orie flips inputs. Otherwise, Orie can stand just outside Yuzu 236B range and threaten with Divine Thrust. When in Saki range, the basic RPS is between 236B 6Cw~D and 236B 6[C]w 6A. This looks like a mess of inputs (because it is) but Yuzu will do a slash and exit stance after a whiff or stay in stance. If she stays in stance her options are very limited as she's used two marks (but is +7) and exiting stance leaves her at +1. She wants to condition her opponent to sit still so she can use more fake pressure once the second 236X is expected.
This is where dash blocking comes in. It's very difficult to dashblock against her at +7, but her leaving stance and refreshing her options gives a bit more breathing room.
- Offense
Yuzu has a metered reversal with 214C. She also has a full suite of anti-airs, with 5C and 2FF covering most of her options. 2FF on block can route directly into air stance and get her out.
- Defense
Yuzu has a ton of plus frames at her disposal but her only real option to open people up is her throw game and the universal options around it. Good Yuzu players will adapt their gameplan to what you do on defense, which makes the goal on defense be staying unpredictable or reverse conditioning the opponent. As wild as she is, Yuzu has to interact in order to get anything done as blocking builds GRD.
214X is worth mentioning on its own as it allows Yuzu to reposition while staying plus. When TK'd with Yuzu exiting stance it's usually +3, but staying in stance makes it as advantageous as +10. She keeps her turn but can't really force anything as she can't high/low or throw from her stance.
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Hilda
Chaos
Nanase
Byakuya
Phonon
Mika
Wagner
Enkidu
Londrekia
Kaguya
Tsurugi
Kuon
- Knowledge Checks
- Kuon round start 236AA can be beaten pre-emptively with 236A or with a neutral jump.
- 236A will lose to other round start options, particularly walking backwards.
- Neutral jump is the safer of the two as Orie can dash up and 2C punish or use an air option if he didn't 236A.
- Neutral
- Offense
- Defense
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