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{{MBTL Character Subnav|char=Dead Apostle Noel|short=SA|sub=1}}
{{MBTL Character Subnav|char=DANoel|short=DN|sub=1}}
==Overall==
==Overall==


==Specific Matchups==
==Specific Matchups (HEAVILY WIP)==
{{MatchupData-MBTL
{{MatchupData-MBTL
| player      =DANoel
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Tohno
| character   =Shiki Tohno
| image        =MBTL_Tohno_icon.png
| shortName   =Tohno
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Tohno
| image        =MBTL tohno icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Shiki Tohno
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Neutral
*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''': Besides a DP (623B/C), Shiki has no unique tools that would allow him to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.
}}   
}}   
{{MatchupData-MBTL
{{MatchupData-MBTL
| player      =DANoel
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Arcueid
| character    =Arcueid Brunestud
| shortName    =Arc
| image        =MBTL arcueid icon.png
| image        =MBTL arcueid icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Arcueid Brunestud
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Arcueid Brunestud
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =  
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Neutral
*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''': Besides a DP (22B/C), Arcueid has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.
}}
}}


{{MatchupData-MBTL
{{MatchupData-MBTL
| player      =DANoel
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Akiha
| character   =Akiha Tohno
| image        =MBTL Akiha icon.png
| shortName   =Akiha
| image        =MBTL akiha icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Akiha Tohno
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Akiha Tohno
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =  
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Neutral
*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''':
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="background-color: transparent">
'''Arc Drive''': A command grab that is frame zero if you are point blank. Has a second hitbox even if it whiffs. <br> A costly hard callout tool, whiffing is deadly.
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
<span style="display: block; float: right; overflow: hidden; border-radius: 15px; line-height: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 7px;></span>
'''Beats''':
* Meaty Low
* Throw
* Anti-Heat OS
* Shield
* Do Nothing (Point Blank)
'''Loses To:'''
* Superjump/Jump
* IAD
* 4BC
* Do Nothing (Further Back)
</div>
</div>
}}
}}


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| player      =DANoel
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Ciel
| character    =Ciel
| shortName    =Ciel
| image        =MBTL ciel icon.png
| image        =MBTL ciel icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Ciel
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Ciel
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =  
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Neutral
*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''':
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="background-color: transparent">
'''236C''': A fullscreen invincible reversal. Incredibly active. <br> Functionally the same as Roa's.
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
<span style="display: block; float: right; overflow: hidden; border-radius: 15px; line-height: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 7px;></span>
'''Beats''':
* Meaty Low
* Throw
* IAD > Buttons
* 4BC
'''Loses To''':
* Superjump/Jump (Variable Punish Times)
* Shield
* Anti-Heat OS
* Empty IAD
* Do Nothing
</div>
</div>
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="background-color: transparent">
'''22B/C''': A standard DP. <br> Covers the same set of options as a normal DP for both parties.
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
<span style="display: block; float: right; overflow: hidden; border-radius: 15px; line-height: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 7px;></span>
'''Beats''':
* Meaty Low
* Throw
* IAD
* Anything else that involves pressing a button
'''Loses To''':
* Superjump/Jump
* Shield
* Anti-Heat OS
* Do Nothing
* 4BC
* Long Dash > Block
</div>
</div>
}}
}}


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| player      =DANoel
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Hisui
| character    =Hisui
| image        =MBTL_hisui_icon.png
| shortName    =Hisui
| image        =MBTL hisui icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Hisui
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Hisui
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =  
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Neutral
*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''': Hisui has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.
}}  
}}  


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| player      =DANoel
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Kohaku
| character    =Kohaku
| image        =MBTL_Kohaku_icon.png
| shortName    =Kohaku
| image        =MBTL kohaku icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Kohaku
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Kohaku
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =  
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Neutral
*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''': Kohaku has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.
}}  
}}  


{{MatchupData-MBTL
{{MatchupData-MBTL
| player      =DANoel
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Maids
| character   =Hisui & Kohaku
| image        =MBTL_maids_icon.png
| shortName   =Maids
| image        =MBTL maids icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Hisui & Kohaku
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Hisui & Kohaku
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =  
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Neutral
*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''': The Maids have no unique tools that would allow them to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.
}}
}}


{{MatchupData-MBTL
{{MatchupData-MBTL
| player      =DANoel
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Kouma
| character   =Kouma Kishima
| image        =MBTL_kouma_icon.png
| shortName   =Kouma
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Kouma
| image        =MBTL kouma icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Kouma Kishima
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =  
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Neutral
*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''':
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="background-color: transparent">
'''Arc Drive''': An advancing command grab that is frame zero if point blank. <br> A costly, but incredibly potent option since it covers most offensive options.
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
<span style="display: block; float: right; overflow: hidden; border-radius: 15px; line-height: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 7px;></span>
'''Beats:'''
* Meaty Low
* Throw
* Anti-Heat OS
* Shield
* Do Nothing (Point Blank)
* IAD > Buttons
* 4BC
* Anything else that involves pressing a button
'''Loses To:'''
* Superjump/Jump
* Empty IAD
* Do Nothing > Jump On Reaction (Further Back)
</div>
</div>
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="background-color: transparent">
'''623B/C''': A standard DP. More active than most due to the large trail of flames it leaves behind. <br> Covers the same set of options as a normal DP.
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
<span style="display: block; float: right; overflow: hidden; border-radius: 15px; line-height: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 7px;></span>
'''Beats''':
* Meaty Low
* Throw
* IAD
* 4BC
* Anything else that involves pressing a button
'''Loses To''':
* Superjump/Jump
* Shield
* Anti-Heat OS
* Do Nothing
* Long Dash > Block
</div>
</div>
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="background-color: transparent">
'''214C''': A slightly advancing command grab with fast, invincible startup. <br> Used for hard callouts, as whiffing is automatically punished by bell detonation hitboxes.
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
<span style="display: block; float: right; overflow: hidden; border-radius: 15px; line-height: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 7px;></span>
'''Beats''':
* Meaty Low
* Throw
* Shield
* Anti-Heat OS
* Do Nothing (Point Blank)
* Reaction Moon Drive (It is a grab)
* Anything else that involves pressing a button
'''Loses To''':
* Superjump/Jump
* Empty IAD
* 4BC
* Do Nothing > Mash DP/Arc Drive On Reaction (Very Hard) (Point Blank)
* Do Nothing > Jump On Reaction (Further Back)
</div>
</div>
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="background-color: transparent">
'''22C''': Somewhat of a meme option, but still a valid one. By all means, it's a reversal that can work wonders. <br>
If used and not immediately punished, it grants Kouma 4 seconds of fully actionable armor.
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
<span style="display: block; float: right; overflow: hidden; border-radius: 15px; line-height: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 7px;></span>
Due to its significant pushback and lower recovery than other reversal options, it is actually harder to punish 22C and break the armor install than his other options. Due to this, a third '''Draws With''' section was added, listing options that keep his armor but don't actually punish Dead Apostle Noel and instead return to an armor-fueled neutral.
'''Beats''':
* Meaty Low
* Throw
'''Draws With''':
* Superjump/Jump (Depends on Distance)
* Empty IAD > Block
'''Loses To''':
* Superjump/Jump (Depends on Distance)
* Do Nothing > Shield On Reaction
* Empty IAD > Shield On Reaction (Requires Strict Timing)
* Shield
* Anti-Heat OS
* 4BC > 22C
</div>
</div>
}}  
}}  


{{MatchupData-MBTL
{{MatchupData-MBTL
| player      =DANoel
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Miyako
| character   =Miyako Arima
| image        =MBTL_miyako_icon.png
| shortName   =Miyako
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Miyako
| image        =MBTL miyako icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Miyako Arima
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =  
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Neutral
*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''': Besides a DP (623A/C), Miyako has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.
}}  
}}  


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| player      =DANoel
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Noel
| character    =Noel
| image        =MBTL_Noel_icon.png
| shortName    =Noel
| image        =MBTL noel icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Noel
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Noel
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Neutral
*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''': Besides a DP (22B/C), Noel has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.
}}  
}}  


{{MatchupData-MBTL
{{MatchupData-MBTL
| player      =DANoel
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Roa
| character   =Michael Roa Valdamjong
| image        =MBTL_roa_icon.png
| shortName   =Roa
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Roa
| image        =MBTL roa icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Michael Roa Valdamjong
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Neutral
*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''':
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="background-color: transparent">
'''236C''': A fullscreen invincible reversal. Incredibly active. <br> Functionally the same as Ciel's.
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
<span style="display: block; float: right; overflow: hidden; border-radius: 15px; line-height: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 7px;></span>
'''Beats''':
* Meaty Low
* Throw
* IAD > Buttons
* 4BC
'''Loses To''':
* Superjump/Jump (Variable Punish Times)
* Shield
* Anti-Heat OS
* Empty IAD
* Do Nothing
</div>
</div>
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="background-color: transparent">
'''623B/C''': A standard DP. <br> Covers the same set of options as a normal DP for both parties.
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
<span style="display: block; float: right; overflow: hidden; border-radius: 15px; line-height: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 7px;></span>
'''Beats''':
* Meaty Low
* Throw
* IAD
* 4BC
* Anything else that involves pressing a button
'''Loses To''':
* Superjump/Jump
* Shield
* Anti-Heat OS
* Do Nothing
* Long Dash > Block
</div>
</div>
}}  
}}  


{{MatchupData-MBTL
{{MatchupData-MBTL
| player      =DANoel
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Vlov
| character   =Vlov Arkhangel
| image        =MBTL_vlov_icon.png
| shortName   =Vlov
| image        =MBTL vlov icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Vlov Arkhangel
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Vlov Arkhangel
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Neutral
*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''': Vlov has no unique tools that would allow him to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.
}}   
}}   


{{MatchupData-MBTL
{{MatchupData-MBTL
| player      =DANoel
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Warc
| character   =Red Arcueid
| image        =MBTL_warc_icon.png
| shortName   =Warc
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Red_Arcueid
| image        =MBTL warc icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Red Arcueid
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Neutral
*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
}}
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''': Besides a DP (236C), Red Arcueid has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.
}}  


{{MatchupData-MBTL
{{MatchupData-MBTL
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| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Saber
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Saber
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Offense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''':
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="background-color: transparent">
'''Arc Drive''': A reversal counter that triggers when any hitbox touches it, including the bell detonations. <br> Be vigilant when Saber has 3 bars; Avalon is quite good in this matchup.
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
<span style="display: block; float: right; overflow: hidden; border-radius: 15px; line-height: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 7px;></span>
'''Beats:'''
* Anything that involves pressing a button
* Do Nothing
'''Loses To:'''
* Long Dash > Wait & Punish
* Superjump* (Can potentially cross up the input)
</div>
</div>
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="background-color: transparent">
'''623C''': Saber's only real reversal. <br> Fast, big hitbox, but remains fully grounded. Covers a slightly different set of options than a normal DP.
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
<span style="display: block; float: right; overflow: hidden; border-radius: 15px; line-height: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 7px;></span>
'''Beats''':
* Meaty Low
* Throw
* IAD
* 4BC
* Anything else that involves pressing a button
'''Loses To''':
* Superjump/Jump
* Shield
* Anti-Heat OS
* Do Nothing
* Long Dash > Block
</div>
</div>
}}
 
{{MatchupData-MBTL
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Aoko Aozaki
| shortName    =Aoko
| image        =MBTL aoko icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Aoko Aozaki
| favorability =
| data        =
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Offense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''': Besides a DP (623C), Aoko has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.
}}
 
{{MatchupData-MBTL
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Dead Apostle Noel
| shortName    =DANoel
| image        =MBTL danoel icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Dead Apostle Noel
| favorability =
| data        =
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Offense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''': Besides a DP (623B/C), Dead Apostle Noel has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.
}}
 
{{MatchupData-MBTL
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Mario Gallo Bestino
| shortName    =Mario
| image        =MBTL mario icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Mario Gallo Bestino
| favorability =
| data        =
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Offense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''': Mario has no unique tools that would allow him to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.
}}
 
{{MatchupData-MBTL
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Powered Ciel
| shortName    =PCiel
| image        =MBTL pciel icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Powered Ciel
| favorability =
| data        =
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Neutral
*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''': Besides a DP (623B/C), Powered Ciel has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.
}}
}}


{{MatchupData-MBTL
{{MatchupData-MBTL
| player      =DANoel
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Aoko
| character    =Neco-Arc
| image        =MBTL_aoko_icon.png
| shortName    =Neco
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Aoko
| image        =MBTL neco icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Neco-Arc
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Neutral
*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
}}  
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''': Besides a DP (623B/C), Neco-Arc has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast. Her DP loses to IAD, by the way.
}}


{{MatchupData-MBTL
{{MatchupData-MBTL
| player      =DANoel
| player      =DANoel
| character    =DANoel
| character    =Mash Kyrielight
| image        =MBTL_danoel_icon.png
| shortName    =Mash
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/DANoel
| image        =MBTL mash icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Mash Kyrielight
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
----
*Neutral
*Neutral
*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
-----
'''Considerations On Oki''': Besides a DP (623B/C), Mash has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.
}}
}}


{{MatchupData-MBTL
{{MatchupData-MBTL
| player      =DANoel
| player      =DANoel
| character    =Mario
| character    =Ushiwakamaru
| image        =MBTL_Mario_icon.png
| shortName    =Ushi
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Mario
| image        =MBTL ushiwaka icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Ushiwakamaru
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =*Overview
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*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
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'''Considerations On Oki''': Ushiwakamaru has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.
}}
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| player      =DANoel
| player      =DANoel
| character    =PCiel
| character    =Monte Cristo
| image        =MBTL_PCiel_icon.png
| shortName    =TCMC
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/PCiel
| image        =MBTL monte cristo icon.png
| charLink    =Melty Blood/MBTL/Monte Cristo
| favorability =
| favorability =
| data        =*Overview
| data        =
'''Suggested Playstyle''': xxx
 
Overview/Summary
 
'''Pros'''
* you can win
'''Cons'''
* you can lose
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*Neutral
*Neutral
*Offense
*Offense
*Defense
*Defense
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'''Considerations On Oki''':
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'''Arc Drive''': KOKER INSTALL!!! An advancing command grab that is frame zero if point blank. <br> Pretty fast and travels quite far; functionally similar to Kouma's.
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'''Beats:'''
* Meaty Low
* Throw
* Anti-Heat OS
* Shield
* Do Nothing (Point Blank)
* IAD > Buttons
* 4BC
* Anything else that involves pressing a button
'''Loses To:'''
* Superjump/Jump
* Empty IAD
* Do Nothing > Jump On Reaction (Further Back)
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</div>
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'''623B/C''': A standard DP. <br> Covers the same set of options as a normal DP for both parties.
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'''Beats''':
* Meaty Low
* Throw
* IAD
* Anything else that involves pressing a button
'''Loses To''':
* Superjump/Jump
* Shield
* Anti-Heat OS
* Do Nothing
* 4BC
* Long Dash > Block
</div>
</div>
}}
}}
===Navigation===
===Navigation===

Latest revision as of 00:17, 13 August 2023

Overall

Specific Matchups (HEAVILY WIP)

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Shiki Tohno
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki: Besides a DP (623B/C), Shiki has no unique tools that would allow him to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.

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Arcueid Brunestud
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki: Besides a DP (22B/C), Arcueid has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.

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Akiha Tohno
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki:

Arc Drive: A command grab that is frame zero if you are point blank. Has a second hitbox even if it whiffs.
A costly hard callout tool, whiffing is deadly.

Beats:

  • Meaty Low
  • Throw
  • Anti-Heat OS
  • Shield
  • Do Nothing (Point Blank)

Loses To:

  • Superjump/Jump
  • IAD
  • 4BC
  • Do Nothing (Further Back)
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Ciel
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki:

236C: A fullscreen invincible reversal. Incredibly active.
Functionally the same as Roa's.

Beats:

  • Meaty Low
  • Throw
  • IAD > Buttons
  • 4BC

Loses To:

  • Superjump/Jump (Variable Punish Times)
  • Shield
  • Anti-Heat OS
  • Empty IAD
  • Do Nothing

22B/C: A standard DP.
Covers the same set of options as a normal DP for both parties.

Beats:

  • Meaty Low
  • Throw
  • IAD
  • Anything else that involves pressing a button

Loses To:

  • Superjump/Jump
  • Shield
  • Anti-Heat OS
  • Do Nothing
  • 4BC
  • Long Dash > Block
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Hisui
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki: Hisui has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.

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Kohaku
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki: Kohaku has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.

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Hisui & Kohaku
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki: The Maids have no unique tools that would allow them to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.

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Kouma Kishima
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki:

Arc Drive: An advancing command grab that is frame zero if point blank.
A costly, but incredibly potent option since it covers most offensive options.

Beats:

  • Meaty Low
  • Throw
  • Anti-Heat OS
  • Shield
  • Do Nothing (Point Blank)
  • IAD > Buttons
  • 4BC
  • Anything else that involves pressing a button

Loses To:

  • Superjump/Jump
  • Empty IAD
  • Do Nothing > Jump On Reaction (Further Back)

623B/C: A standard DP. More active than most due to the large trail of flames it leaves behind.
Covers the same set of options as a normal DP.

Beats:

  • Meaty Low
  • Throw
  • IAD
  • 4BC
  • Anything else that involves pressing a button

Loses To:

  • Superjump/Jump
  • Shield
  • Anti-Heat OS
  • Do Nothing
  • Long Dash > Block

214C: A slightly advancing command grab with fast, invincible startup.
Used for hard callouts, as whiffing is automatically punished by bell detonation hitboxes.

Beats:

  • Meaty Low
  • Throw
  • Shield
  • Anti-Heat OS
  • Do Nothing (Point Blank)
  • Reaction Moon Drive (It is a grab)
  • Anything else that involves pressing a button

Loses To:

  • Superjump/Jump
  • Empty IAD
  • 4BC
  • Do Nothing > Mash DP/Arc Drive On Reaction (Very Hard) (Point Blank)
  • Do Nothing > Jump On Reaction (Further Back)

22C: Somewhat of a meme option, but still a valid one. By all means, it's a reversal that can work wonders.
If used and not immediately punished, it grants Kouma 4 seconds of fully actionable armor.

Due to its significant pushback and lower recovery than other reversal options, it is actually harder to punish 22C and break the armor install than his other options. Due to this, a third Draws With section was added, listing options that keep his armor but don't actually punish Dead Apostle Noel and instead return to an armor-fueled neutral.

Beats:

  • Meaty Low
  • Throw

Draws With:

  • Superjump/Jump (Depends on Distance)
  • Empty IAD > Block

Loses To:

  • Superjump/Jump (Depends on Distance)
  • Do Nothing > Shield On Reaction
  • Empty IAD > Shield On Reaction (Requires Strict Timing)
  • Shield
  • Anti-Heat OS
  • 4BC > 22C
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Miyako Arima
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki: Besides a DP (623A/C), Miyako has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.

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Noel
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki: Besides a DP (22B/C), Noel has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.

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Michael Roa Valdamjong
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki:

236C: A fullscreen invincible reversal. Incredibly active.
Functionally the same as Ciel's.

Beats:

  • Meaty Low
  • Throw
  • IAD > Buttons
  • 4BC

Loses To:

  • Superjump/Jump (Variable Punish Times)
  • Shield
  • Anti-Heat OS
  • Empty IAD
  • Do Nothing

623B/C: A standard DP.
Covers the same set of options as a normal DP for both parties.

Beats:

  • Meaty Low
  • Throw
  • IAD
  • 4BC
  • Anything else that involves pressing a button

Loses To:

  • Superjump/Jump
  • Shield
  • Anti-Heat OS
  • Do Nothing
  • Long Dash > Block
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Vlov Arkhangel
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki: Vlov has no unique tools that would allow him to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.

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Red Arcueid
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki: Besides a DP (236C), Red Arcueid has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.

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Saber
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki:

Arc Drive: A reversal counter that triggers when any hitbox touches it, including the bell detonations.
Be vigilant when Saber has 3 bars; Avalon is quite good in this matchup.

Beats:

  • Anything that involves pressing a button
  • Do Nothing

Loses To:

  • Long Dash > Wait & Punish
  • Superjump* (Can potentially cross up the input)

623C: Saber's only real reversal.
Fast, big hitbox, but remains fully grounded. Covers a slightly different set of options than a normal DP.

Beats:

  • Meaty Low
  • Throw
  • IAD
  • 4BC
  • Anything else that involves pressing a button

Loses To:

  • Superjump/Jump
  • Shield
  • Anti-Heat OS
  • Do Nothing
  • Long Dash > Block
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Aoko Aozaki
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki: Besides a DP (623C), Aoko has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.

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Dead Apostle Noel
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki: Besides a DP (623B/C), Dead Apostle Noel has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.

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Mario Gallo Bestino
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki: Mario has no unique tools that would allow him to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.

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Powered Ciel
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki: Besides a DP (623B/C), Powered Ciel has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.

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Neco-Arc
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki: Besides a DP (623B/C), Neco-Arc has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast. Her DP loses to IAD, by the way.

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Mash Kyrielight
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki: Besides a DP (623B/C), Mash has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.

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Ushiwakamaru
[character page][match videos]
  • Overview
  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki: Ushiwakamaru has no unique tools that would allow her to challenge Dead Apostle Noel's oki better than the rest of the cast.

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Monte Cristo
[character page][match videos]
Suggested Playstyle: xxx

Overview/Summary

Pros

  • you can win

Cons

  • you can lose

  • Neutral
  • Offense
  • Defense

Considerations On Oki:

Arc Drive: KOKER INSTALL!!! An advancing command grab that is frame zero if point blank.
Pretty fast and travels quite far; functionally similar to Kouma's.

Beats:

  • Meaty Low
  • Throw
  • Anti-Heat OS
  • Shield
  • Do Nothing (Point Blank)
  • IAD > Buttons
  • 4BC
  • Anything else that involves pressing a button

Loses To:

  • Superjump/Jump
  • Empty IAD
  • Do Nothing > Jump On Reaction (Further Back)

623B/C: A standard DP.
Covers the same set of options as a normal DP for both parties.

Beats:

  • Meaty Low
  • Throw
  • IAD
  • Anything else that involves pressing a button

Loses To:

  • Superjump/Jump
  • Shield
  • Anti-Heat OS
  • Do Nothing
  • 4BC
  • Long Dash > Block

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