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   | combo        = D > A > j.B > j.6BC > 2C > j.[C] > 236AA(delay)4A > 5A > 5C > 2BB > 236BBB > 214C
   | combo        = D > A > j.B > j.6BC > 2C > 9j.[C] > 236AA(delay)4A > 5A > 5C > 2BB > 236BBB > 214C


   | damage    = 4220
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   | combo        = D > A > j.B > j.6BC > 2C > 8j.[C] > 236AA(delay)4A > 5A > 5C > 5B > 2B > 236BBB > 214C
   | combo        = D > A > j.B > j.6BC > 2C > 8j.[C] > 5C > 236[B] > 22A > 5B > 2B > 236AAA > 214C
   | damage    = 4233
   | damage    = 4220
   | cost          = 1 Moon Gauge, 100 meter
   | cost          = 1 Moon Gauge, 100 meter
   | metergain    = 1.18
   | metergain    = 1.18
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   | location      = {{Property-UNI|Corner}}
   | location      = {{Property-UNI|Corner}}
   | notes        = *Moonskill and meter combo, corner version.
   | notes        = *Moonskill and meter combo, corner version.
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  | combo        = D > A > j.B > j.6BC > 2C > 9j.[C] > 236AA(delay)4A > 5A > 5C > 5B > 2B > 236BBB > 214C
  | damage    = 4233
  | cost          = 1 Moon Gauge, 100 meter
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  | oppmetergain =
  | location      = {{Property-UNI|Corner}}
  | notes        = *Moonskill and meter combo for the corner. Slightly higher damage than the above, but requires a delay.
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Revision as of 20:15, 3 November 2022

Notation Help
Disclaimer: Combos are written by various writers, so notation may differ slightly from this notation.

For more information, see Glossary and Controls

X > Y X input is cancelled into Y.
X, Y X input is linked into Y, meaning Y is done after X's recovery period.
X+Y Buttons "X" and "Y" must be input simultaneously.
X/Y Input "X" or "Y" can be used.
dl There should be delay before inputting "X".
w.X or Xw Attack "X" should whiff and not hit the opponent.
j.X Button "X" is input while jumping or in the air.
dj.X Button "X" is input after a double jump.
jc Jump cancel the previous action. Will occasionally be omitted due to being obvious. Will occasionally be notated with 7/9 to indicate backwards/forwards.
sj Perform a superjump, which is performed by inputting 2~8.
sjc Superjump cancel the previous action.
IAD Instant Air Dash.
AT Air throw, often used as a combo ender that leads to knockdown.
md.X Perform a micro-dash before performing "X". Unused in favor of writing "microdash."
tk.X Indicates the motion "X" is input immediately after leaving the ground. Stands for tiger knee.
(X) Input "X" is optional. Typically the combo will be easier if omitted.
[X] Input "X" is held down. Also can be known as "Increase" or "IC" for short. Depending on the character, this can indicate that this button is held down and not released until indicated by the release notation.
]X[ Input "X" is released. Will only appear if a button is previously held down.
{X} Button "X" should only be held down briefly to partially charge the attack, instead of the full increased version.
X(#) Attack "X" should only hit # of times.
X~Y This notation has two meanings.
  1. Use attack "X" with "Y" follow-up input.
  2. Input "X" then within a few frames, input "Y". Usually used for option selects.
(...) OR (...) Use only one between the two alternative routes.
RB1/2 The first or second hit of Rapid Beat auto combo.
CH The first attack must be Counter Hit.
FC The first attack must be Fatal Counter.
MD Perform a Moon Drive, which is inputted by pressing 5B+C.
Heat Perform Heat, which is performed by inputting A+B+C.
AD Perform an Arc Drive, which is performed by inputting 236B+C. Characters with more than one Arc Drive will have theirs notated by input.
LA Perform a Last Arc, which is performed by inputting A+B+C+D or successfully Shielding in Blood Heat.

Getting Started

Starter Combos

The combos listed below are basic BNBs and relatively easy combos to use. You can also go into Mission Mode to try his combo trials, but those aren't as well developed.

Combo Damage Cost Meter Gain Location
2C > 5C > 5B > 236A~A~A > 2B > 2C > 5C > RB1 > Ender ~3345 79%
Opp: 35% 		Anywhere
  • Universal BNB. Easy to use and ends in hard knockdown.
  • You can get by just using this combo alone if you wished, it does everything you need.
  • You can add up to any amount of 2A's before the 2C for an easier confirm, but for less damage.
  • You can also convert into this from an IAD j.C by doing 2A right after it.
  • Video reference
2B > 3C > jB > j.6BC > 236A~4A~4A > 2A > 2C > 5C > RB1 > Ender ~ 3 Moon Gauge Anywhere
D > A > jB > j.6BC > 236A~4A~4A > 2A > 2C > 5C > RB1 > Ender ~ 3 Moon Gauge Anywhere
D > CH B > 3BC > jc > dl.j.[C] > 236A- 4A- 4A > 2A > 2C > 5C > RB1 > Ender ~ Anywhere
j.[C] > 2BC > 236B~4B~4B > 2A > 2C > 5C > RB1 > Ender ~ 72%
Opp: 32% 		Anywhere
3BC > jc > dl.j.[C] > 236A- 4A- 4A > 2A > 2C > 5C > RB1 > Ender 3234 65% Anywhere
Lua error in Module:Script-MBTL at line 406: illegal token: ). ~ 3 Moon Gauge Anywhere
D > BC > dj.[C] > 2BC > 236B- 4B- 4B > 2A > 2C > 5C > RB1 > Ender ~ 6 Moon Gauge Anywhere

Theory

Kouma, while having several different ways to extend combos, generally wants to get the opponent high enough for a rekka extension then go into one of his multiple enders that can either prioritize okizeme or damage. This is generally done by comboing into 2C then two subsequent normals, generally 5C > 5B.

Thanks to having consistent combos into his 214A, he has meterless access to amazing okizeme unlike most of the cast. Because of this, his combos aren't meter dependant and he can save it up for reversal purposes or for Arc Drive.

He also has ways to extend his combos off situational starters, such as 6BC from a long range confirm, j.6BC from shield launcher, 22B when ground bounce is used, 214A~A near the corner, and j.236C from DP.

FAQ

What do I do after X starter?

2A can be any other low/CH air starter for bnb or any normal starter for 6BC or IAD. Additional normals before 2C will reduce the damage.

Why end with 214A?

This damage is made up by the advantage you get after it: a safejump that can be a 5-way mixup.

Why do my normals/rekka whiff/come out too late mid-combo?

If anything whiffs - you are mashing when you have to time it.

Why does Rekka not cross up?

A) You finished with 4X
B) You delayed it too much
C) You are using the wrong one On higher ranges you have to switch 236A for 236B.
D) j.[C] 5C 2[C]: you need some space between you and your opponent for it to work. You create it by doing 8jc (jump upwards instead of diagonal), delaying normals or you add 2B after 5B for a bit of damage loss, but a stable B-rekka confirm.

2B link is too hard! Can I replace it?

Yes, you can replace it with 5A > 5CC > 214A. This will give up a lot of damage, though.

I can’t connect anything after j.[C] after 3BC, my opponent just techs!

Start charging j.C when falling, not rising. 3BC has a lot of hitstun.

Enders

Kouma has strong combo enders that allow him to pick between okizeme and damage. This will be listing the enders after rekka specifically, as other combo starters will require specific enders even if they still get to pick between damage and okizeme.

Combo Cost Location
214A Anywhere
  • Meterless, but gives incredibly strong oki. A key part of Kouma's gameplan.
214A > 236C 1 Bar Anywhere
  • Tosses the opponent to the other side of the screen and gives a lengthy knockdown, allowing you to use Moon Charge to gain some extra meter/moon icons or giving you serviceable oki.
236X~X~X > 214C 1 Bar Anywhere
  • High damage meter burn ender. Gives worse oki than 214A, but does much higher damage.
236X~X~X > 236BC 3 Bars Anywhere
  • Arc Drive ender. Huge damage at the cost of pretty lackluster oki.
236X~X > 236C(2) > 236BC 4 Bars Anywhere
  • For when you really need that extra damage to kill. In the corner, you can let all 3 hits of 236C connect, giving higher damage.

Close to Corner After Sideswitch

Combo Cost Location
2BB > 214A~4A > C > 214C 1 Bar Anywhere
  • Fairly easy command grab extension ender. Adds a nice bit of damage.
2BB > 214A~4A > 2C > 236BC 3 Bars Anywhere
  • 3 Bar ender with the command grab extension. Does great damage.
2BB > 214A~4A > 2C > 236C > 236BC 4 Bars Anywhere
  • 4 Bars with command grab extension. Does a bit more damage.

Combos

2A Starters

Combo Damage Cost Meter Gain Location
2A > 2C > 5C > 5B > 236A~A~A > Ender 214A - 3345, j.CC - 3519, 214C - 3908 Anywhere
  • BNB. Good combo option that's consistent and easy to confirm.
2A > 2C > 5C > 5B > 236A~A~A > 2B > 2C > 236[B] > 5CC > 214A 3455 0.88 Anywhere
  • Corner variation. Works off of 2A>2A>2A, so don't worry too much about proration
2A > 2C > 5C > 5B > 236A~A~A > 5A > 214A~4A > Ender 214A - 3470, j.BB - 3620 Near Corner
  • Near corner combo that requires you to land the crossup rekka. Adds a good amount of damage and also looks cool.
2A > 2C > IAD > j.C > 5A > 5C > dl.5B > dl.236Bdl BB > Ender 214A - 3439, j.BB - 3567, 214C - 4036 Anywhere
  • High damage midscreen meterless combo. Difficult, but works great at any part of the screen.
2A > 2C > IAD > j.C > 5A > 5C > dl.5B > dl.236BdlBB > 2B > 214A- 4A > 2B > 5CC > 214A 3545 Near Corner
  • Optimal meterless combo.
Lua error in Module:Script-MBTL at line 463: illegal token: delay. 3666 3 Moon gauge. 1.11 Anywhere

Divekick combo. Very tricky to pull off.

2B/5B Starters

Combo Damage Cost Meter Gain Location
2B > 2C > 6236B(1)B > 5C > 236AAA > 5A > 5B > Ender 3581(214A ender) .83 Magic Circuit Anywhere
  • Requires you to be close to the opponent when you do 6236B. You don't have to be quite point blank, but it's inconsistent otherwise.
5B/2B > 2C > IAD > j.C > 623B(1)B > 236AXX > 5A > 5C > Ender AT: 3708, 214A: 3609 Anywhere

High damage and good corner carry combo.

5B/2B > 2C > IAD > j.C > 623B(1)B > 236AXX > 5A > 5C > 214X4 > 5C > 5B > Ender AT: 3822, 214A: 3714 Corner

Variant for in case you reach the corner.

5/2B > 2C > 236[B] > 5C > 236AXX > 5A > 5B > 22A > Ender AT: 3822, 214A: 3714 Corner

Corner combo.

Shield Starters

Combo Damage Cost Meter Gain Location
D > A > j.B > 6BC > 2B > 5CCC > 214A 3003 3 Moon Gauge Anywhere
  • Main shield launcher combo. Uses Moon Skill falcon kick for an extension, making it pretty damaging.
D > A > j.C > 6BC > 5C > 22B > 5A > 2C > 2B > 5BBB > 214A 3392 3 Moon Gauge Anywhere
  • More optimized version of the combo above.
D > A > dl.j.B > 6BC > 2C > 5C > dl.5BB > 214A 3024 3 Moon Gauge Anywhere
  • Harder but slightly better damage shield combo.
Lua error in Module:Script-MBTL at line 463: illegal token: delay. 4220 1 Moon Gauge, 100 meter 1.20 Anywhere
  • Moonskill and meter combo.
D > A > j.B > j.6BC > 2C > 8j.[C] > 5C > 236[B] > 22A > 5B > 2B > 236AAA > 214C 4220 1 Moon Gauge, 100 meter 1.18 Corner
  • Moonskill and meter combo, corner version.
Lua error in Module:Script-MBTL at line 463: illegal token: delay. 4233 1 Moon Gauge, 100 meter Corner
  • Moonskill and meter combo for the corner. Slightly higher damage than the above, but requires a delay.
D > BCH > dl.2.C > 5C > dl.236B- dl.B- B > Ender 214A - 3264, j.BB - 3392, 214C - 3861, 236BC - 4656, 236C(2)236BC - 5030 Anywhere
  • Unlike A/C confirms, requires CH, but highly rewarding for it. Will be used mostly in Sheld Wars™
D > BC > 2[C] > dl.5C > dl.5B > dl.236B- dl.B- B > Ender 214A - 3509, j.BB - 3625, 214C - 4098, 236BC - 4923, 236CBC - 5267 2 Moon Gauge Anywhere
  • More damage for a more risky starter and a bit of resources.

Anti-Air Starters

Combo Damage Cost Meter Gain Location
2B > dl.5B > dl.5C > dl.236BBB > Ender 214A - 3306, j.CC - 3411, 214C - 3912 Anywhere
  • Non counter hit 2B anti-air combo. Effective for what it is.
CH 2B > j.[C] > 2B > dl.5C > dl.236AAA > Ender 214A - 3686, j.BB - 3748, 214C - 4253 Anywhere
  • Counter hit 2B anti-air combo. Does great damage for an anti-air but isn't easy to confirm.
CH 2B > 2[C] > dl.5B > dl.5B > dl.236BBB > Ender 214A - 3799, j.CC - 3947, 214C - 4396 Midscreen
  • Optimal counter hit 2B anti-air combo. Does a little more damage.
CH 5A > j.[C] > 2B > (dl.5CC > 214A) OR (3C > j.BB) OR (dl.5C > dl.5BB > 236AA > 214C) 214A - 2860, j.CC - 3250, 214C - 3753 Midscreen
  • Counter hit 5A anti-air. Damage changes exponentially depending on your ender, so it's more worth using meter with it.

j.[C] Starters

Combo Damage Cost Meter Gain Location
j.[C] > dl.2C > dl.5C > dl.5B > dl.B > dl.236Bdl BB > Ender 214A - 3901, j.CC - 4002, 214C - 4498 Midscreen
  • Combo for the rare j.[C] starter. Great damage when it lands.

236X ~ X ~ CH 4X Starters

Combo Damage Cost Meter Gain Location
Lua error in Module:Script-MBTL at line 432: illegal token: w.. 2526, 2673 Anywhere
  • On the occasion you get a counter-hit 4X from rekka, this is the combo to go for. Neat way to get more damage out of it.

214X ~ 4X Starters

Combo Damage Cost Meter Gain Location
Lua error in Module:Script-MBTL at line 276: illegal token: 5. 3568, 3718 Back to Corner
  • When you land a command grab while in or near the corner.
214A4A > 5C > 236AAA > 5A > 5B > 22A > 2A > 2C > 236[B] > 2BB > 236BBB > 214C 4445 Back to Corner
  • New, optimal 214A4A combo now that 236[B] exists.

Air to Air CH Starters

Combo Damage Cost Meter Gain Location
j.X > 2C > dl.5C > dl.5B > dl.236B- dlB - B > Ender Anywhere
  • Air to air conversion. Fairly typical.
j.A > 5C > 2[C] > IAD > j.B > 623B(1)B > 236A~6X4X > 5A > 5BB > 214A OR 2B > 5B > 3C (AT: 4178. 214A: 4037) Anywhere
  • j.A combo.
j.B > 5C > 2[C] > IAD > j.C > 623B(1)B > 236A~6X4X > 5A > 5BB > 214A OR 2B > 5B > 3C (AT: 4176. 214A: 4064) Anywhere
  • j.B combo.
j.C > 5C > 2[C] > IAD > j.B > 623B(1)B > 236A~6X4X > 5A > 5BB > 214A OR 2B > 5B > 3C (AT: 4144. 214A: 4032) Anywhere
  • j.C combo. Does less damage than the j.B combo, hilariously enough.

236[B] starters

Combo Damage Cost Meter Gain Location
236[B] > 236C > Dash > 6BC > 5A > RB1 > ENDER 3629(214A) ender 100% Magic Circuit 26% Magic Circuit Anywhere
  • Basic 1 bar midscreen 236[B] combo.
236[B] > 236C > 2C > 5C > 5B > RB1 > ENDER 3869(214A ender) 100% Magic Circuit 23% Magic Circuit Corner

Similar to the above combo, but in the corner and without a dash. Not optimal, but very easy.

236[B] > 2B > 2C > j.[C] > 5C > 236AXX > 5A > 5B > 22A > 2A > 2CC > 214A OR 2CC > 236BXX > 214C 4.8 ex ender(4.3 214A ender 100% Magic Circuit 105% Magic Circuit Corner

Highly damaging combo of 236[B] but is slightly tricky to perform

Moonskill starters

Combo Damage Cost Meter Gain Location
2BC > 2C > IAD > j.B > 623B(1)B > 236A~6X4X > 5A > 5C > 5B > 2B > 3C > AT OR 5BB > 214A (AT: 3996. 214A: 3892.) Anywhere
  • High Damage 2BC combo.
2BC > 5C > 236[B] > 2C > 236AXX > 5A > 5B > 22A > 2A > 2B > 3C OR 2BB > 214A (AT: 4262. 214A: 4186) Corner
  • 2BC corner combo.
6BC > 2C > IAD > j.B > 623B(1)B > 236A~6X4X > 5A > 5C > 5B > 2B > 3C > AT OR 5BB > 214A (AT: 3649. 214A: 3560) Anywhere
6BC > 2C > 236[B] > 5C > 22A > 5A > 5B > 2B > 3C > AT OR 2BB > 214A (AT: 3613. 214A: 3471.) Corner
  • Corner 6BC route.
3BC > IAD > delayj.[C] > 2C > delayIAD > j.B > 5A > 236AXX > 2A > 5C > 5B > 3C > AT OR 5C > 5BB > 214A (AT: 3864. 214A: 3788) Anywhere
  • Difficult, but provides great corner carry.
3BC > j.8 > delayj.[C] > 236[B] > 236AXX > 5A > 5B > 22A > 2A > 2C > 2B > 3C OR 2BB > 214A (AT: 4173. 214A: 4117.) Anywhere
  • Corner 3BC route. You want to get it low enough so you can do 236[B]
j.6BC > 2C > IAD > j.B > 623B(1)B > 236A~6X4X > 5A > 5C > 5B > 2B > 3C > AT OR 5BB > 214A (AT: 3860. 214A: 3786.) Anywhere
  • j6BC route.
j.6BC > 5C > 236[B] > 2C > 236AXX > 5A > 5B > 22A > 2A > 2B > 3C OR 2BB > 214A (AT: 4028. 214A: 3972.) Anywhere
  • Corner j6BC route.

Moondrive Combos

Combo Damage Cost Meter Gain Location
2A > 2B > 2C > 2BC > MD > IADj.[C] > 5C > 236AXX > 5A > 5BB > 236BXX > 214C 4587 100% magic circuit Anywhere


2B > 2C > 2BC > MD > IADj.[C] > 623B(1)B > 5C > 236AXX > 5A > 5BB > 236BXX > 214C 4781 100% magic circuit Anywhere


2A > 2B > 2C > 236[B] > 2BC > MD > 3BC > j.8 > j.[C] > 5C > 22A > 5A > 5BB > 236AXX > 214C 4603 100% magic circuit Corner

Videos

Kouma 214A Okizeme Primer

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RED's Week 1 Kouma Guide (Info Potentially Outdated)

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