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===<span class="invisible-header">Overview</span>===
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| '''Health''' || 10,500
*'''Health''' = 10,500
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*'''Prejump''' = 4F
| '''Prejump''' || 4
*'''Backdash''' = 25F (Invulnerable 1~15F)
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*'''Backdash Distance''' = 1.1953
| '''Backdash''' || 29F (Invulnerable 1-15)
*'''Sidestep Type''' = Aggressive Inward Spiral
 
*'''Weight''' = Very Light
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<big><big><center>'''Overview'''</center></big></big>
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The proud King of Knights
Saber possesses fast disjointed Normals and functions primarily as a Rekka character. Saber can apply offense in her pressure or reset situations with her command backdash (214X). Her damage output has a very high ceiling and her fast speed allows her to compensate for her lack of a projectile in most of her matchups. Avalon is a commital counter that prevents others from zoning her too much.
{{ProConTable|width=100
|pros=
* Extremely good mobility and flexibility in neutral, among the highest in the game.
* Has a tricky rekka pressure game, forcing her opponent to react to multiple 50/50s during pressure sequences.
* Is able to low profile or deflect many long range options with her first rekka attack.
* Very high damage, with proper execution she has viable corner carry and can kill off almost any hit, forcing the opponent to burst or lose the round.
* While costly, Avalon is an incredibly useful anti-projectile tool that forces opponents to rethink their neutral options when Saber has 100 meter.
* Saber's sword is mostly invisible, making it hard for the opponent to gauge the range on some of her normals.
|cons=
*Very high execution requirement for her high damage output. Often considered one of the hardest characters in the game.
*Her main combos both have obvious burst points, which, if timed correctly, will leave her with very little meter left.
*Almost every move in her grounded kit is minus, causing gaps in her pressure.
*Good combo routes are very meter reliant, without meter her options become much more limited.
*Lacking a projectile, so not only does she lack in long distance options, she is unable to unscale her supers.
}}
}}
}}


== Introduction ==
==Notes==
Saber possesses fast disjointed normals and functions primarily as a rekka character. Saber can apply offense in her pressure or reset situations with her command backdash (214X). Her damage output has a very high ceiling and her fast speed allows her to compensate for her lack of a projectile in most of her matchups. Avalon is a commital counter that prevents others from zoning her too much.
* '''Full Mana Activation Ability:''' For the duration, Saber unsheathes Excalibur, which increases the overall hitstun on her attacks.


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== Normals==
== Normals==
 
====Standing Normals====
=====<span class="invisible-header">5A</span>=====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
   |name=5A
   |name=5A
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   | advblock =-3
   | advblock =-3
   | description =A standing short range slash.
   | description =A standing short range slash.
*This move can be low-profiled to dodge
*Proration: 15%
*Proration Penalty: 15%
  }}
}}


=====<span class="invisible-header">5B</span>=====
{{MoveData
  |name=5B
  |image=FUC Saber 5B.png
  |data=
  {{AttackData-FUC
  | damage =330
  | guard =All
  | cancel =N, S, R, A
  | startup =10
  | total length =36
  | blockstun =18
  | advblock =-7
  | description =Saber performs a midrange straight stab.
*Proration: 15%
   }}
   }}
}}
}}


=====<span class="invisible-header">5C</span>=====
{{MoveData
  |name=5C
  |image=FUC Saber 5C.png
  |data=
  {{AttackData-FUC
  | damage =450
  | guard =All
  | cancel =N, S, R, A
  | startup =17
  | total length =46
  | blockstun =13
  | advblock =-15
  | description =Saber performs a powerful midrange slash.
*Proration: 15%
  }}
}}


==== Crouching Normals ====
=====<span class="invisible-header">2A</span>=====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
   |name=2A
   |name=2A
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   | advblock =-4
   | advblock =-4
   | description =A crouching short range slash.
   | description =A crouching short range slash.
 
*Proration: 17%
*Proration Penalty: 17%
   }}
   }}
}}
}}


 
=====<span class="invisible-header">2B</span>=====
{{MoveData
  |name=5B
  |image=FUC Saber 5B.png
  |data=
  {{AttackData-FUC
  | damage =330
  | guard =All
  | cancel =N, S, R, A
  | startup =10
  | total length =36
  | blockstun =18
  | advblock =-7
  | description =Saber performs a midrange straight stab.
 
  }}
}}
 
 
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
   |name=2B
   |name=2B
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   | advblock =-12
   | advblock =-12
   | description =Saber performs a close range sweep that knocks her opponents off their feet.
   | description =Saber performs a close range sweep that knocks her opponents off their feet.
*Proration: 17%


   }}
   }}
}}
}}


 
=====<span class="invisible-header">2C</span>=====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
   |name=6B
   |name=2C
   |image=FUC Saber 6B.png
   |image=FUC Saber 2C.png
   |data=
   |data=
   {{AttackData-FUC
   {{AttackData-FUC
   | damage =400  
   | damage =400  
   | guard =High
   | guard =All
   | cancel =N, S, R, A
   | cancel =J, N, S, R, A
   | startup =27
   | startup =12
   | total length =51
   | total length =46
   | blockstun =10
   | blockstun =16
   | advblock =-13
   | advblock =-17
   | description =Saber steps forward before performing and overhead slash.
   | description =Saber launches the opponent into the air with a vertical slash.
*Proration: 15%


   }}
   }}
}}
}}


 
==== Aerial Normals ====
=====<span class="invisible-header">j.A</span>=====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
   |name=5C
   |name=j.A
   |image=FUC Saber 5C.png
   |image=FUC Saber j.A.png
   |data=
   |data=
   {{AttackData-FUC
   {{AttackData-FUC
   | damage =450
   | damage =250
   | guard =All
   | guard =High
   | cancel =N, S, R, A
   | cancel =J*, N, A
   | startup =17
   | startup =8
   | total length =46
   | total length =
   | blockstun =13
   | blockstun =13
   | advblock =-15
   | advblock =
   | description =Saber performs a powerful midrange slash.
   | description =
 
*Proration: 20%
   }}
   }}
}}
}}


 
=====<span class="invisible-header">j.B</span>=====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
   |name=2C
   |name=j.B
   |image=FUC Saber 2C.png
   |image=FUC Saber j.B.png
   |data=
   |data=
   {{AttackData-FUC
   {{AttackData-FUC
   | damage =400
   | damage =330
   | guard =All
   | guard =High
   | cancel =J, N, S, R, A
   | cancel =J*, N, A
   | startup =12  
   | startup =12  
   | total length =46
   | total length =
   | blockstun =16
   | blockstun =16
   | advblock =-17
   | advblock =
   | description =Saber launches the opponent into the air with a vertical slash.
   | description =
*Proration: 15%
  }}
}}


=====<span class="invisible-header">j.C</span>=====
{{MoveData
  |name=j.C
  |image=FUC Saber j.C.png
  |data=
  {{AttackData-FUC
  | damage =500
  | guard =High
  | cancel =A
  | startup =14
  | total length =
  | blockstun =24
  | advblock =
  | description =
*Proration: 10%
   }}
   }}
}}
}}


==== Command Normals ====
=====<span class="invisible-header">6B</span>=====
{{MoveData
  |name=6B
  |image=FUC Saber 6B.png
  |data=
  {{AttackData-FUC
  | damage =400
  | guard =High
  | cancel =N, S, R, A
  | startup =27
  | total length =51
  | blockstun =10
  | advblock =-13
  | description =Saber steps forward before performing and overhead slash.
*Proration: 20%
*Proration Penalty: 20%
  }}
}}


== Universal Mechanics ==
=====<span class="invisible-header">Throw</span>=====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
   |name=6A+B
   |name=6A+B
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   | guard =None
   | guard =None
   | cancel =A
   | cancel =A
   | startup =3
   | startup =4
   | total length =51
   | total length =51
   | blockstun =
   | blockstun =
   | advblock =
   | advblock =
   | description = Saber grabs her opponent before leaping into the air and slashing at her opponent.
   | description = Saber grabs her opponent before leaping into the air and slashing at her opponent.
 
*HKD (not combo-able)
   }}
   }}
}}
}}


==Specials==
==Specials==
 
=====<span class="invisible-header">236X</span>=====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
|name=236X (Rekka 1)
|name=236X (Rekka 1)
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   | advblock =-2
   | advblock =-2
   | description =Saber rushes forward and does a horizontal slash. She travels further the heavier the button she uses.  
   | description =Saber rushes forward and does a horizontal slash. She travels further the heavier the button she uses.  
*Every version can be low-profiled to dodge
*Proration: 15%
The C version deflects low level magics
1. Rin's and Luvia's every projectile that's not super (even Sakura's 236C)
2. Caster's 236X and 623A
3. Sakura's 236X
This protection does not work against anything else, such as high-level magic attack (any Super and Caster's 22X, 623B and 623C), thrown weapons or arrows.
The protection lasts until she starts the slash.
It's still low enough to go under Archer's 5C arrow, Shirou's 421C, Gilgamesh's and Kirei's 236X even when it has no real protection against them, as long as you don't mistime the move.


   }}
   }}
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}}
}}


 
=====<span class="invisible-header">236X~236X</span>=====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
|name=236X (Rekka 2)
|name=236X (Rekka 2)
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   | cancel =U, R, A
   | cancel =U, R, A
   | startup =12
   | startup =12
   | total length =-4
   | total length =
   | blockstun =20
   | blockstun =20
   | advblock =-9
   | advblock =-9
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This combos from any starter.  
This combos from any starter.  
*Proration: 15%


   }}
   }}
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   | cancel =U, R, A
   | cancel =U, R, A
   | startup =19
   | startup =19
   | total length =-4
   | total length =
   | blockstun =21
   | blockstun =21
   | advblock =-5
   | advblock =-5
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This combos from any starter  
This combos from any starter  
*Proration: 15%


   }}
   }}
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   | cancel =U, R, A
   | cancel =U, R, A
   | startup =27
   | startup =27
   | total length =-4
   | total length =
   | blockstun =16
   | blockstun =16
   | advblock =-7
   | advblock =-7
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This only combos from 236C. It can be linked into 5A.  
This only combos from 236C. It can be linked into 5A.  
*Proration: 15%


   }}
   }}
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}}
}}


 
=====<span class="invisible-header">236X~236X~236X</span>=====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
|name=236X (Rekka 3)
|name=236X (Rekka 3)
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   | cancel =R, A
   | cancel =R, A
   | startup =18
   | startup =18
   | total length =-4
   | total length =
   | blockstun =16
   | blockstun =16
   | advblock =-11
   | advblock =-11
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This combos from any starter.  
This combos from any starter.  
*Proration: 15%


   }}
   }}
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   | cancel =R, A
   | cancel =R, A
   | startup =23
   | startup =23
   | total length =-4
   | total length =
   | blockstun =19
   | blockstun =19
   | advblock =-9
   | advblock =-9
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This combos from 236B and 236C.  
This combos from 236B and 236C.  
*Proration: 15%


   }}
   }}
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   | cancel =R, A
   | cancel =R, A
   | startup =25
   | startup =25
   | total length =-4
   | total length =
   | blockstun =25
   | blockstun =25
   | advblock =-3
   | advblock =-3
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This only combos from 236C. It can easily be followed up.  
This only combos from 236C. It can easily be followed up.  
*Proration: 15%


   }}
   }}
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}}
}}


 
=====<span class="invisible-header">623X</span>=====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
|name=623X
|name=623X
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   | damage =600
   | damage =600
   | guard =All
   | guard =All
   | cancel =R, A
   | cancel =J, R, A
   | startup =10
   | startup =10
   | total length =46
   | total length =46
   | blockstun =24
   | blockstun =24
   | advblock =-12
   | advblock =-12
   | description =  
   | description = Saber launches the opponent into the air while balancing on one foot. This attack is a single hit and jump cancellable
 
*Proration: 10%
   }}
   }}
  {{AttackData-FUC
  {{AttackData-FUC
   | version =623B
   | version =623B
   | header =no
   | header =no
   | damage =780
   | damage =900
   | guard =All
   | guard =All
   | cancel =R, A
   | cancel =R, A
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   | blockstun =20
   | blockstun =20
   | advblock =-15
   | advblock =-15
   | description =Saber launches the opponent into the air while balancing on one foot. A version is jump cancellable while B version is bad.
   | description =Saber launches the opponent into the air while balancing on one foot. This attack has a follow up attack (by pressing C) which deals 500 unscaled damage and causes Hard Knock Down
*B version has 3 hits, dealing 150, 250 and 500 base damage respectively
*Proration: 10%


   }}
   }}
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   | version =623C
   | version =623C
   | header =no
   | header =no
   | damage =1015
   | damage =1250
   | guard =All
   | guard =All
   | cancel =R, A
   | cancel =R, A
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   | blockstun =22
   | blockstun =22
   | advblock =-18
   | advblock =-18
   | description =Saber performing 2 vertical slashes that act as an anti-air or a reversal.
   | description =Saber performing 2 vertical slashes that act as an anti-air or a reversal. This attack has a follow up attack (by pressing C) which deals 500 unscaled damage and causes Hard Knock Down


Startup on this move is invincible and it costs 30 meter to perform. As long as the last hit connects, you will drain 50 meter from your opponent.  
Startup on this move is invincible and it costs 30 meter to perform. As long as the last hit connects, you will drain 50 meter from your opponent.  
*This attack has 4 hits, dealing 200, 150, 300 and 600 base damage respectively
*Proration: 10%


   }}
   }}
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}}
}}


 
=====<span class="invisible-header">214X</span>=====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
|name=214X
|name=214X
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   | advblock =-7
   | advblock =-7
   | description =Saber steps in and performs a low attack. This knocks down on counterhit.  
   | description =Saber steps in and performs a low attack. This knocks down on counterhit.  
*Proration: 10%


   }}
   }}
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   | blockstun =21
   | blockstun =21
   | advblock =-4
   | advblock =-4
   | description =Saber steps in and performs a mid attack. This never knocksdown.  
   | description =Saber steps in and performs a mid-attack that is similar to Rekka 2 - B version (but less damage). This never knocksdown.  
*Proration: 15%


   }}
   }}
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   | blockstun =21
   | blockstun =21
   | advblock =-15
   | advblock =-15
   | description =Saber steps in and launches the opponent. This can start a combo on counterhit.  
   | description =Saber steps in and launches the opponent. This can start a combo.
 
*Proration: 10%
   }}
   }}
}}
}}


==Supers (WIP)==
==Supers (WIP)==
 
=====<span class="invisible-header">236236A</span>=====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
   |name=236236A
   |name=Strike Air: Iron Hammer of the Wind King
  |input=236236A
   |image=FUC Saber 236236A.png
   |image=FUC Saber 236236A.png
   |data=
   |data=
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   | advblock =-15
   | advblock =-15
   | description = Saber shoots a blast of powerful air at her opponent. It launches her opponent into the air and can continue into a combo in the corner.
   | description = Saber shoots a blast of powerful air at her opponent. It launches her opponent into the air and can continue into a combo in the corner.
*This attack has multiple hits. Each hit has 500 base damage and can have up to 3 hits (1500 damage)
*This attack resets gravity, allowing Saber to restart her juggle loops


This costs 100 meter.
This costs 100 meter.
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}}
}}


 
=====<span class="invisible-header">Burst 236236A</span>=====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
   |name=236236A (While Activated)
   |name=Excalibur: Sword of Promised Victory
  |input=236236A (While Activated)
   |image=FUC Saber 236236A (While Activated).png
   |image=FUC Saber 236236A (While Activated).png
   |data=
   |data=
   {{AttackData-FUC
   {{AttackData-FUC
   | damage =2000
   | damage =2460
   | guard =All
   | guard =All
   | cancel =
   | cancel =
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   | advblock =-18
   | advblock =-18
   | description = Saber shoots a beam of energy at her opponent with Excalibur.
   | description = Saber shoots a beam of energy at her opponent with Excalibur.
*This attack has multiple hits. Each hit has 60 base damage and can have up to 41 hits (2460 damage)


This costs 100 meter.
This costs 100 meter.
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}}
}}


 
=====<span class="invisible-header">Burst 214214C</span>=====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
   |name=214214C (While Activated)
   |name=Avalon: Ever-Distant Utopia
  |input=214214C (While Activated)
   |image=FUC Saber 214214C (While Activated).png
   |image=FUC Saber 214214C (While Activated).png
   |data=
   |data=
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   | blockstun =
   | blockstun =
   | advblock =
   | advblock =
   | description = Saber summons Avalon and counters any attacks that come towards her. This will shoot an unblockable excalibur beam for 3000+ damage at an opponent that is able to block or is far away or will perform a 2300 damage slash against opponents that are close to her and cannot block. It can start a combo if it performs the grounded slash.
   | description = Saber summons Avalon and counters any attacks that come towards her.


This costs 100 meter.
This costs 100 meter.
*If the opponent is able to block or in the air, Saber will fire Excalibur beam version straight at them (this beam is unblockable). The beam does 85 damage per hit and can have up to 41 hits (3485 damage)
*If the opponent is on the ground and is unable to block, this will force a cutscene (even if the target is invulnerable) and Saber will slash the opponent. The slash is a single hit with 2300 damage and causes the target to slowly collapse, fully vulnerable to a combo
*The counterattack itself is always unscaled
*The ground version is considered a command grab and will not get any damage boost from hitting Leysritt's Installed Armor
*The target that's not too high in the air still counts as being on the ground
*While the beam does not have a cutscene, it will still hit the opponent in 0 frame. However, it is possible to evade some hits of the beam version if the opponent is preemptively vulnerable before the counterattack occurs.
*Auto guard abilities such as Archer's 623X do not count as blocking in this case, and will count as being on the ground and is unable to block instead.
   }}
   }}
}}
}}


 
=====<span class="invisible-header">Grail 236236C</span>=====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
   |name=236236C (Grail Super)
   |name=Excalibur: Sword of Promised Victory
  |input=236236C (Grail Super)
   |image=FUC Saber 236236C (Grail Super).png
   |image=FUC Saber 236236C (Grail Super).png
   |data=
   |data=
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   | blockstun =
   | blockstun =
   | advblock =-16
   | advblock =-16
   | description =Saber slashes with excalibur before using her noble phantasm.
   | description =Saber slashes with Excalibur before using her noble phantasm.


This attack always does 4000 damage regardless of scaling. It can only be performed after filling the holy grail and activating with 300 meter.
This attack always does 4000 damage regardless of scaling. It can only be performed after filling the holy grail and activating with 300 meter.
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==Combos (WIP)==
==Combos (WIP)==
Normal chain order: 5A > 2A > 5B, 2B > 6B > 5C, 2C
Note: "normals" refers to 5A 2A 5B 5C
Because 2B sweeps, you cannot do 2B 5C in combos, if you do 2B either do 2B 5B 623A or 2B 2C 623A and jump/move on
off of 6B you just go straight to 5C and continue, and off of a jB/jC, skip the A normals as those add too much damage scaling
BASIC COMBOS
Extremely Basic air ender combo (about 1600 damage):
normals > 2C 623A jc. > jA jB dj. > jA jB jC
Basic DP ender (about 1800-2500 damage depending on variation):
normals > 2C 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369B/C(~C)
(the ~C ender is optional, costs 50 meter, and ends in a hard knockdown)
Super enders: (the super itself does minimum 1200 damage if all hits connect)
623B/C > act > 623C > delay > 236236A
623B/C > act > 236A~236A~236C > 236236A
Combo theory tips in general:
Saber's combos mostly revolve around the fact that her 623A is jump cancelable on hit, as well as 214X~C. You will want to practice those, as well as 623B/C > rc/activate against the wall. Additionally when landing after jA jC you want to do 6236''9''X. This is very important for the 623A to be a true combo and be able to continue into 2369A. It's recommended to practice tkc 623A > tkc 236A. Easiest inputs for it on stick are 62369A > 2369A. Check for a blue aura around her when you do the move to make sure you're getting the tkc.
Another thing you will want to practice is doing 2C > 236236A as a very fast rip. I do it as 2C~36236A.
HARD COMBOS
Rekka Loop is a very difficult combo, however it is Saber's best corner carry option, and a large part of how her
high damage stuff works, therefore it is strongly suggested to learn it. You need to do a landing tkc for the 623A after
the jump or it will be too slow.
Additionally you need to be careful inputting 2C 236A~236A => 2C 236A~236A. Ultimately this takes a lot
of practice and you really should make sure to practice this on both sides.
Rekka Loop/midscreen wind loop: (between wind supers, dash towards the opponent then do 2C and do it again)
normals > (2C 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236236A)xN
Rekka loop to 623B/C(~C) ender (([https://youtu.be/YjfUVod2MjU Video Demonstration]):
normals > 2C 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B/C(~C)
Harder super ender (does a bit more damage than the easier versions):
623B/C > act > jump > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A~236C > 236236A
WALL WIND LOOP/ELFIN LOOP/2147X~C LOOP EXPLANATION AND EXAMPLES
([https://youtu.be/7t59cu9_OWo Video Demonstration])
this combo works by alternating 2147A~C and 2147C~C against the wall,
you want to make sure to keep hitting them into the wall, so do not side step too close to the wall with 2147X~C
Sometimes you need to use 2147A~C or 2147C~C twice in a row. After you reach 8-10 hits, they fall too fast to keep going,
so reset gravity with 2362369A.  You must be very aware of your stage positioning, as 214A goes to Saber's left, 214C to her right 
It is possible go for 11 hits against any character except Berserker. However, it is recommended to only go for up to 8-10 hits (for consistency)
An example of this loop:
236236A > ((2147A~C 2147C~C)x4 > 2362369A)xN
Important notes about wall wind loop/elfin loop:
count the number of hits between supers, NOT the number of groupings of hits.
There is a rhythm to it, the time between the 2147X~C's gets shorter as you do more of them, until you have to reset gravity because there
isnt enough time for another 2147X~C
Additionally 62369B/C > 623B/C > rc can be done for the gravity reset, but you only get 6-7 hits before needing to reset gravity again
62369B/C activate can also be done. By doing the C version both times you can do some meter damage. And you can end with 62369B/C > 623B/C~C if you want as well
Additionally, (2369A~236A~236C > 623B/C > rc/act > next loop) works too
Heavy Rekka opener - Double Command Sidestep ([https://youtu.be/GBl14WN445I Video Demonstration])
Short version: 236C → 236C → 236C → 214X~C → 214X~B → 236A → 623A → tkc 236A → 236A → 2C → 236A → 236A → 2C → 236A → 236A → 236C → 623C(~C)
Elfin Dance ToD: 236C → 236C → 236C → 214X~C → 214X~B → 236A → 623A → tkc 236A → 236A → 2C → 236A → 236A → 2C → 236236A → [214X~C]×n → tkc 623C → 623C → RC → [214X~C]×7 → tkc 236236A → [214X~C]×n → tkc 623A → tkc 623B → 623C(~C)
== COMBOING OFF OF AVALON ==
Avalon when it gets grounded counter hit version, leaves the opponent in crumple state, (you will be on the right always)
there is enough time to launch the opponent with 623A, but not by much, so the timing is a bit precise
The combo you can do off of it depends on how much meter you have left in the activate. If you have none,
you can do longer combos by meter regaining after the activate runs out. The basic version is (zero meter after Avalon)
AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C > 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B~C
If you have too much meter after Avalon hits, you can omit the C followup to the 623B and end with 623B/C
This totals to about 5.5k.  You can get more but how much more is character specific.
Excalibur enders post Avalon
(30 meter post Avalon, about 4k)
AVALON > 623A~62369C > delay > 236236A
(60 meter post Avalon, about 4.5k)
AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369C > delay > 236236A
(100 meter post Avalon, about 5.5k)
AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A~236C > 236236A
Avalon combo I saw in a combo music video done on Rin (WILL NOT work against Berserker, needs medium or small stage):
AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B
> rc > 2147X~C loop (7 hits) > 2369A~236A~236C > 623B > act > (2147X~C loop (11 hits) > 62369A 62369B > 623B > act >
jump > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A~236C > 236236A
(video https://www.bilibili.com/video/av20216562/ (at 4:22))
Elfin Ender (safer, but a little harder)
AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B
> rc > 2147X~C loop (7 hits) > 2369A~236A~236C > 623B > act > (2147X~C loop (11 hits) > 62369A 62369B > 623B > act >
2147X~C loop (4 hits) > 236236A
Rekka Ender (the easiest, but still in burst radius)
Will kill any 10k characters
AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B
> rc > 2147X~C loop (7 hits) > 2369A~236A~236C > 623B > act > (2147X~C loop (11 hits) > 62369A 62369B > 623B > act >
214X~B~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 236236A
623X ender (the hardest, but guaranteed to kill the other Saber
AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B
> rc > 2147X~C loop (7 hits) > 2369A~236A~236C > 623B > act > (2147X~C loop (11 hits) > 62369A 62369B > 623B > act >
2147X~C loop (2 hits) > (82)623A x2 > (82)623C > 236236A




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Latest revision as of 19:48, 2 July 2024

Overview

Overview

The proud King of Knights Saber possesses fast disjointed Normals and functions primarily as a Rekka character. Saber can apply offense in her pressure or reset situations with her command backdash (214X). Her damage output has a very high ceiling and her fast speed allows her to compensate for her lack of a projectile in most of her matchups. Avalon is a commital counter that prevents others from zoning her too much.

Strengths Weaknesses
  • Extremely good mobility and flexibility in neutral, among the highest in the game.
  • Has a tricky rekka pressure game, forcing her opponent to react to multiple 50/50s during pressure sequences.
  • Is able to low profile or deflect many long range options with her first rekka attack.
  • Very high damage, with proper execution she has viable corner carry and can kill off almost any hit, forcing the opponent to burst or lose the round.
  • While costly, Avalon is an incredibly useful anti-projectile tool that forces opponents to rethink their neutral options when Saber has 100 meter.
  • Saber's sword is mostly invisible, making it hard for the opponent to gauge the range on some of her normals.
  • Very high execution requirement for her high damage output. Often considered one of the hardest characters in the game.
  • Her main combos both have obvious burst points, which, if timed correctly, will leave her with very little meter left.
  • Almost every move in her grounded kit is minus, causing gaps in her pressure.
  • Good combo routes are very meter reliant, without meter her options become much more limited.
  • Lacking a projectile, so not only does she lack in long distance options, she is unable to unscale her supers.

Notes

  • Full Mana Activation Ability: For the duration, Saber unsheathes Excalibur, which increases the overall hitstun on her attacks.


Normals

Standing Normals

5A
5A
FUC Saber 5A.png
Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
230 All N, S, R, A 5 26 17 -3

A standing short range slash.

  • This move can be low-profiled to dodge
  • Proration: 15%
  • Proration Penalty: 15%
5B
5B
FUC Saber 5B.png
Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
330 All N, S, R, A 10 36 18 -7

Saber performs a midrange straight stab.

  • Proration: 15%
5C
5C
FUC Saber 5C.png
Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
450 All N, S, R, A 17 46 13 -15

Saber performs a powerful midrange slash.

  • Proration: 15%

Crouching Normals

2A
2A
FUC Saber 2A.png
Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
210 Low N, S, R, A 6 26 15 -4

A crouching short range slash.

  • Proration: 17%
  • Proration Penalty: 17%
2B
2B
FUC Saber 2B.png
Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
370 Low N, S, R, A 12 41 16 -12

Saber performs a close range sweep that knocks her opponents off their feet.

  • Proration: 17%
2C
2C
FUC Saber 2C.png
Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
400 All J, N, S, R, A 12 46 16 -17

Saber launches the opponent into the air with a vertical slash.

  • Proration: 15%

Aerial Normals

j.A
j.A
FUC Saber j.A.png
Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
250 High J*, N, A 8 - 13 -
  • Proration: 20%
j.B
j.B
FUC Saber j.B.png
Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
330 High J*, N, A 12 - 16 -
  • Proration: 15%
j.C
j.C
FUC Saber j.C.png
Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
500 High A 14 - 24 -
  • Proration: 10%

Command Normals

6B
6B
FUC Saber 6B.png
Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
400 High N, S, R, A 27 51 10 -13

Saber steps forward before performing and overhead slash.

  • Proration: 20%
  • Proration Penalty: 20%

Universal Mechanics

Throw
6A+B
FUC Saber 6A+B.png
Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
1000 None A 4 51 - -

Saber grabs her opponent before leaping into the air and slashing at her opponent.

  • HKD (not combo-able)

Specials

236X
236X (Rekka 1)
FUC Saber 236X.png
Version Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
236A (Rekka 1) 350 All U, R, A 15 41 21 -4
236B (Rekka 1) 400 All U, R, A 20 46 22 -3
236C (Rekka 1) 450 All U, R, A 25 51 23 -2

Saber rushes forward and does a horizontal slash. She travels further the heavier the button she uses.

  • Every version can be low-profiled to dodge
  • Proration: 15%

The C version deflects low level magics

1. Rin's and Luvia's every projectile that's not super (even Sakura's 236C)

2. Caster's 236X and 623A

3. Sakura's 236X

This protection does not work against anything else, such as high-level magic attack (any Super and Caster's 22X, 623B and 623C), thrown weapons or arrows.

The protection lasts until she starts the slash.

It's still low enough to go under Archer's 5C arrow, Shirou's 421C, Gilgamesh's and Kirei's 236X even when it has no real protection against them, as long as you don't mistime the move.

236X~236X
236X (Rekka 2)
FUC Saber 236X2.png
FUC Saber 236X3.png
FUC Saber 236X4.png
Version Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
236A (Rekka 2) 350 All U, R, A 12 - 20 -9

Saber performs a vertical slash that steps in.

This combos from any starter.

  • Proration: 15%
236B (Rekka 2) 400 Low U, R, A 19 - 21 -5

Sabers performs a low poke that steps in.

This combos from any starter

  • Proration: 15%
236C (Rekka 2) 450 High U, R, A 27 - 16 -7

Saber performs an overhead slash that steps in.

This only combos from 236C. It can be linked into 5A.

  • Proration: 15%
236X~236X~236X
236X (Rekka 3)
FUC Saber 236X5.png
Version Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
236A (Rekka 3) 600 All R, A 18 - 16 -11

Saber performs a vertical slash that knocks her opponent down.

This combos from any starter.

  • Proration: 15%
236B (Rekka 3) 700 All R, A 23 - 19 -9

Saber performs a vertical slash that knocks her opponent down.

This combos from 236B and 236C.

  • Proration: 15%
236C (Rekka 3) 750 All R, A 25 - 25 -3

Saber performs a vertical slash that staggers her opponent.

This only combos from 236C. It can easily be followed up.

  • Proration: 15%
623X
623X
FUC Saber 623X.png
Version Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
623A 600 All J, R, A 10 46 24 -12

Saber launches the opponent into the air while balancing on one foot. This attack is a single hit and jump cancellable

  • Proration: 10%
623B 900 All R, A 5 46 20 -15

Saber launches the opponent into the air while balancing on one foot. This attack has a follow up attack (by pressing C) which deals 500 unscaled damage and causes Hard Knock Down

  • B version has 3 hits, dealing 150, 250 and 500 base damage respectively
  • Proration: 10%
623C 1250 All R, A 5 66 22 -18

Saber performing 2 vertical slashes that act as an anti-air or a reversal. This attack has a follow up attack (by pressing C) which deals 500 unscaled damage and causes Hard Knock Down

Startup on this move is invincible and it costs 30 meter to perform. As long as the last hit connects, you will drain 50 meter from your opponent.

  • This attack has 4 hits, dealing 200, 150, 300 and 600 base damage respectively
  • Proration: 10%
214X
214X
FUC Saber 214X.png
FUC Saber 214X2.png
FUC Saber 214X3.png
FUC Saber 214X4.png
Version Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
214A - - R, A - 31 - -

Saber sidesteps clockwise.

214B - - R, A - 31 - -

Saber backsteps

214C - - R, A - 31 - -

Saber Sidesteps counter clockwise.

A Follow up 500 Low R, A 10 41 23 -7

Saber steps in and performs a low attack. This knocks down on counterhit.

  • Proration: 10%
B Follow up 350 All R, A 16 41 21 -4

Saber steps in and performs a mid-attack that is similar to Rekka 2 - B version (but less damage). This never knocksdown.

  • Proration: 15%
C Follow up 750 All R, A 9 46 21 -15

Saber steps in and launches the opponent. This can start a combo.

  • Proration: 10%

Supers (WIP)

236236A
Strike Air: Iron Hammer of the Wind King
236236A
FUC Saber 236236A.png
Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
1500 All - 8 + 11 58 - -15

Saber shoots a blast of powerful air at her opponent. It launches her opponent into the air and can continue into a combo in the corner.

  • This attack has multiple hits. Each hit has 500 base damage and can have up to 3 hits (1500 damage)
  • This attack resets gravity, allowing Saber to restart her juggle loops

This costs 100 meter.

Burst 236236A
Excalibur: Sword of Promised Victory
236236A (While Activated)
FUC Saber 236236A (While Activated).png
Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
2460 All - 8 + 8 68 - -18

Saber shoots a beam of energy at her opponent with Excalibur.

  • This attack has multiple hits. Each hit has 60 base damage and can have up to 41 hits (2460 damage)

This costs 100 meter.

Burst 214214C
Avalon: Ever-Distant Utopia
214214C (While Activated)
FUC Saber 214214C (While Activated).png
Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
2300+ - - - 31 - -

Saber summons Avalon and counters any attacks that come towards her.

This costs 100 meter.

  • If the opponent is able to block or in the air, Saber will fire Excalibur beam version straight at them (this beam is unblockable). The beam does 85 damage per hit and can have up to 41 hits (3485 damage)
  • If the opponent is on the ground and is unable to block, this will force a cutscene (even if the target is invulnerable) and Saber will slash the opponent. The slash is a single hit with 2300 damage and causes the target to slowly collapse, fully vulnerable to a combo
  • The counterattack itself is always unscaled
  • The ground version is considered a command grab and will not get any damage boost from hitting Leysritt's Installed Armor
  • The target that's not too high in the air still counts as being on the ground
  • While the beam does not have a cutscene, it will still hit the opponent in 0 frame. However, it is possible to evade some hits of the beam version if the opponent is preemptively vulnerable before the counterattack occurs.
  • Auto guard abilities such as Archer's 623X do not count as blocking in this case, and will count as being on the ground and is unable to block instead.
Grail 236236C
Excalibur: Sword of Promised Victory
236236C (Grail Super)
FUC Saber 236236C (Grail Super).png
Damage Guard Cancel Startup Total Length Blockstun Block Adv
4000 All - - 61 - -16

Saber slashes with Excalibur before using her noble phantasm.

This attack always does 4000 damage regardless of scaling. It can only be performed after filling the holy grail and activating with 300 meter.

This reduces your meter to 0.

Combos (WIP)

Normal chain order: 5A > 2A > 5B, 2B > 6B > 5C, 2C

Note: "normals" refers to 5A 2A 5B 5C Because 2B sweeps, you cannot do 2B 5C in combos, if you do 2B either do 2B 5B 623A or 2B 2C 623A and jump/move on off of 6B you just go straight to 5C and continue, and off of a jB/jC, skip the A normals as those add too much damage scaling


BASIC COMBOS


Extremely Basic air ender combo (about 1600 damage): normals > 2C 623A jc. > jA jB dj. > jA jB jC


Basic DP ender (about 1800-2500 damage depending on variation): normals > 2C 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369B/C(~C) (the ~C ender is optional, costs 50 meter, and ends in a hard knockdown)


Super enders: (the super itself does minimum 1200 damage if all hits connect) 623B/C > act > 623C > delay > 236236A 623B/C > act > 236A~236A~236C > 236236A


Combo theory tips in general:

Saber's combos mostly revolve around the fact that her 623A is jump cancelable on hit, as well as 214X~C. You will want to practice those, as well as 623B/C > rc/activate against the wall. Additionally when landing after jA jC you want to do 62369X. This is very important for the 623A to be a true combo and be able to continue into 2369A. It's recommended to practice tkc 623A > tkc 236A. Easiest inputs for it on stick are 62369A > 2369A. Check for a blue aura around her when you do the move to make sure you're getting the tkc.

Another thing you will want to practice is doing 2C > 236236A as a very fast rip. I do it as 2C~36236A.


HARD COMBOS


Rekka Loop is a very difficult combo, however it is Saber's best corner carry option, and a large part of how her high damage stuff works, therefore it is strongly suggested to learn it. You need to do a landing tkc for the 623A after the jump or it will be too slow. Additionally you need to be careful inputting 2C 236A~236A => 2C 236A~236A. Ultimately this takes a lot of practice and you really should make sure to practice this on both sides.


Rekka Loop/midscreen wind loop: (between wind supers, dash towards the opponent then do 2C and do it again)

normals > (2C 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236236A)xN


Rekka loop to 623B/C(~C) ender ((Video Demonstration):

normals > 2C 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B/C(~C)


Harder super ender (does a bit more damage than the easier versions): 623B/C > act > jump > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A~236C > 236236A


WALL WIND LOOP/ELFIN LOOP/2147X~C LOOP EXPLANATION AND EXAMPLES (Video Demonstration)

this combo works by alternating 2147A~C and 2147C~C against the wall, you want to make sure to keep hitting them into the wall, so do not side step too close to the wall with 2147X~C Sometimes you need to use 2147A~C or 2147C~C twice in a row. After you reach 8-10 hits, they fall too fast to keep going, so reset gravity with 2362369A. You must be very aware of your stage positioning, as 214A goes to Saber's left, 214C to her right

It is possible go for 11 hits against any character except Berserker. However, it is recommended to only go for up to 8-10 hits (for consistency)

An example of this loop:

236236A > ((2147A~C 2147C~C)x4 > 2362369A)xN

Important notes about wall wind loop/elfin loop: count the number of hits between supers, NOT the number of groupings of hits. There is a rhythm to it, the time between the 2147X~C's gets shorter as you do more of them, until you have to reset gravity because there isnt enough time for another 2147X~C


Additionally 62369B/C > 623B/C > rc can be done for the gravity reset, but you only get 6-7 hits before needing to reset gravity again 62369B/C activate can also be done. By doing the C version both times you can do some meter damage. And you can end with 62369B/C > 623B/C~C if you want as well


Additionally, (2369A~236A~236C > 623B/C > rc/act > next loop) works too

Heavy Rekka opener - Double Command Sidestep (Video Demonstration)

Short version: 236C → 236C → 236C → 214X~C → 214X~B → 236A → 623A → tkc 236A → 236A → 2C → 236A → 236A → 2C → 236A → 236A → 236C → 623C(~C)

Elfin Dance ToD: 236C → 236C → 236C → 214X~C → 214X~B → 236A → 623A → tkc 236A → 236A → 2C → 236A → 236A → 2C → 236236A → [214X~C]×n → tkc 623C → 623C → RC → [214X~C]×7 → tkc 236236A → [214X~C]×n → tkc 623A → tkc 623B → 623C(~C)

COMBOING OFF OF AVALON

Avalon when it gets grounded counter hit version, leaves the opponent in crumple state, (you will be on the right always) there is enough time to launch the opponent with 623A, but not by much, so the timing is a bit precise The combo you can do off of it depends on how much meter you have left in the activate. If you have none, you can do longer combos by meter regaining after the activate runs out. The basic version is (zero meter after Avalon) AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C > 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B~C If you have too much meter after Avalon hits, you can omit the C followup to the 623B and end with 623B/C


This totals to about 5.5k. You can get more but how much more is character specific.

Excalibur enders post Avalon (30 meter post Avalon, about 4k) AVALON > 623A~62369C > delay > 236236A

(60 meter post Avalon, about 4.5k) AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369C > delay > 236236A

(100 meter post Avalon, about 5.5k) AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A~236C > 236236A


Avalon combo I saw in a combo music video done on Rin (WILL NOT work against Berserker, needs medium or small stage):

AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B > rc > 2147X~C loop (7 hits) > 2369A~236A~236C > 623B > act > (2147X~C loop (11 hits) > 62369A 62369B > 623B > act > jump > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A~236C > 236236A

(video https://www.bilibili.com/video/av20216562/ (at 4:22))


Elfin Ender (safer, but a little harder)

AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B > rc > 2147X~C loop (7 hits) > 2369A~236A~236C > 623B > act > (2147X~C loop (11 hits) > 62369A 62369B > 623B > act > 2147X~C loop (4 hits) > 236236A


Rekka Ender (the easiest, but still in burst radius)

Will kill any 10k characters

AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B > rc > 2147X~C loop (7 hits) > 2369A~236A~236C > 623B > act > (2147X~C loop (11 hits) > 62369A 62369B > 623B > act > 214X~B~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 236236A


623X ender (the hardest, but guaranteed to kill the other Saber

AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B > rc > 2147X~C loop (7 hits) > 2369A~236A~236C > 623B > act > (2147X~C loop (11 hits) > 62369A 62369B > 623B > act > 2147X~C loop (2 hits) > (82)623A x2 > (82)623C > 236236A



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