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* Rekkas allow her to get very tricky with pressure, especially if she mixes in 214X into her pressure game to try to bait and punish a button that misses. And even have mixup options due to having a low, and a high option on the 2nd swing, with a fast mid option for frametrap or for airtight. | * Rekkas allow her to get very tricky with pressure, especially if she mixes in 214X into her pressure game to try to bait and punish a button that misses. And even have mixup options due to having a low, and a high option on the 2nd swing, with a fast mid option for frametrap or for airtight. | ||
* 236C lets her go through energy projectiles, 236X has a low hurtbox in general | * 236C lets her go through energy projectiles, 236X has a low hurtbox in general | ||
* Very high damage, with proper execution she has viable corner carry and can kill off basically any hit even 2A, forcing the opponent to burst or lose the round. | |||
* Very high damage, with proper execution she has viable corner carry and | |||
* 6B is a grounded overhead that stays grounded, meaning she can rc its startup to sneak in a low. | * 6B is a grounded overhead that stays grounded, meaning she can rc its startup to sneak in a low. | ||
* While it is very costly, Avalon is an incredibly useful tool to threaten opponents into being more careful with their projectiles whenever Saber has 100 or more meter, especially since she can activate to confirm the window for it. | * While it is very costly, Avalon is an incredibly useful tool to threaten opponents into being more careful with their projectiles whenever Saber has 100 or more meter, especially since she can activate to confirm the window for it. | ||
* 623B is | * 623C is a fantastic reversal that stays grounded, and 623B is a rare meterless reversal. | ||
* Saber's sword is invisible/mostly invisible most of the time, making it hard for the opponent to gauge the range on some of her normals, especially if it's one that has hard to see or no trails. | * Saber's sword is invisible/mostly invisible most of the time, making it hard for the opponent to gauge the range on some of her normals, especially if it's one that has hard to see or no trails. | ||
|cons= | |cons= | ||
*Very execution reliant for her damage output | *Very execution reliant for her damage output. Without very good execution, her damage becomes average or even a bit below. | ||
*Her main | *Her main combos both have obvious burst points (wall wind loop/elfin loop: first 214X~C after super, rekka loop: after jA hits), which will leave her with very little meter left. Making them burst is still usually worth it for her. | ||
*Technically almost every move in her grounded kit is minus. Though mashing out is often easier said then done despite this. | |||
*Technically almost every move in her grounded kit is minus. Though | |||
*Meter damage options are very specific and difficult to pull off. It is unclear how good her optimal meter damage setups are as most players just go for the wind loop. | *Meter damage options are very specific and difficult to pull off. It is unclear how good her optimal meter damage setups are as most players just go for the wind loop. | ||
* | *no projectile to unscale with | ||
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Latest revision as of 01:16, 13 June 2024
Overview
The proud King of Knights Saber possesses fast disjointed Normals and functions primarily as a Rekka character. Saber can apply offense in her pressure or reset situations with her command backdash (214X). Her damage output has a very high ceiling and her fast speed allows her to compensate for her lack of a projectile in most of her matchups. Avalon is a commital counter that prevents others from zoning her too much.
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Notes
- Full Mana Activation Ability: For the duration, Saber unsheathes Excalibur, which increases the overall hitstun on her attacks.
Normals
5A
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2A
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5B
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2B
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6B
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5C
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2C
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j.B
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j.C
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6A+B
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Specials
236X (Rekka 1)
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236X (Rekka 2)
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236X (Rekka 3)
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623X
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214X
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Supers (WIP)
Strike Air: Iron Hammer of the Wind King
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Excalibur: Sword of Promised Victory
236236A (While Activated) |
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Avalon: Ever-Distant Utopia
214214C (While Activated) |
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Excalibur: Sword of Promised Victory
236236C (Grail Super) |
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Combos (WIP)
Normal chain order: 5A > 2A > 5B, 2B > 6B > 5C, 2C
Note: "normals" refers to 5A 2A 5B 5C Because 2B sweeps, you cannot do 2B 5C in combos, if you do 2B either do 2B 5B 623A or 2B 2C 623A and jump/move on off of 6B you just go straight to 5C and continue, and off of a jB/jC, skip the A normals as those add too much damage scaling
BASIC COMBOS
Extremely Basic air ender combo (about 1600 damage): normals > 2C 623A jc. > jA jB dj. > jA jB jC
Basic DP ender (about 1800-2500 damage depending on variation):
normals > 2C 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369B/C(~C)
(the ~C ender is optional, costs 50 meter, and ends in a hard knockdown)
Super enders: (the super itself does minimum 1200 damage if all hits connect)
623B/C > act > 623C > delay > 236236A
623B/C > act > 236A~236A~236C > 236236A
Combo theory tips in general:
Saber's combos mostly revolve around the fact that her 623A is jump cancelable on hit, as well as 214X~C. You will want to practice those, as well as 623B/C > rc/activate against the wall. Additionally when landing after jA jC you want to do 62369X. This is very important for the 623A to be a true combo and be able to continue into 2369A. It's recommended to practice tkc 623A > tkc 236A. Easiest inputs for it on stick are 62369A > 2369A. Check for a blue aura around her when you do the move to make sure you're getting the tkc.
Another thing you will want to practice is doing 2C > 236236A as a very fast rip. I do it as 2C~36236A.
HARD COMBOS
Rekka Loop is a very difficult combo, however it is Saber's best corner carry option, and a large part of how her
high damage stuff works, therefore it is strongly suggested to learn it. You need to do a landing tkc for the 623A after
the jump or it will be too slow.
Additionally you need to be careful inputting 2C 236A~236A => 2C 236A~236A. Ultimately this takes a lot
of practice and you really should make sure to practice this on both sides.
Rekka Loop/midscreen wind loop: (between wind supers, dash towards the opponent then do 2C and do it again)
normals > (2C 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236236A)xN
Rekka loop to 623B/C(~C) ender ((Video Demonstration):
normals > 2C 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B/C(~C)
Harder super ender (does a bit more damage than the easier versions): 623B/C > act > jump > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A~236C > 236236A
WALL WIND LOOP/ELFIN LOOP/2147X~C LOOP EXPLANATION AND EXAMPLES (Video Demonstration)
this combo works by alternating 2147A~C and 2147C~C against the wall, you want to make sure to keep hitting them into the wall, so do not side step too close to the wall with 2147X~C Sometimes you need to use 2147A~C or 2147C~C twice in a row. After you reach 8-10 hits, they fall too fast to keep going, so reset gravity with 2362369A. You must be very aware of your stage positioning, as 214A goes to Saber's left, 214C to her right
It is possible go for 11 hits against any character except Berserker. However, it is recommended to only go for up to 8-10 hits (for consistency)
An example of this loop:
236236A > ((2147A~C 2147C~C)x4 > 2362369A)xN
Important notes about wall wind loop/elfin loop: count the number of hits between supers, NOT the number of groupings of hits. There is a rhythm to it, the time between the 2147X~C's gets shorter as you do more of them, until you have to reset gravity because there isnt enough time for another 2147X~C
Additionally 62369B/C > 623B/C > rc can be done for the gravity reset, but you only get 6-7 hits before needing to reset gravity again
62369B/C activate can also be done. By doing the C version both times you can do some meter damage. And you can end with 62369B/C > 623B/C~C if you want as well
Additionally, (2369A~236A~236C > 623B/C > rc/act > next loop) works too
Heavy Rekka opener - Double Command Sidestep (Video Demonstration)
Short version: 236C → 236C → 236C → 214X~C → 214X~B → 236A → 623A → tkc 236A → 236A → 2C → 236A → 236A → 2C → 236A → 236A → 236C → 623C(~C)
Elfin Dance ToD: 236C → 236C → 236C → 214X~C → 214X~B → 236A → 623A → tkc 236A → 236A → 2C → 236A → 236A → 2C → 236236A → [214X~C]×n → tkc 623C → 623C → RC → [214X~C]×7 → tkc 236236A → [214X~C]×n → tkc 623A → tkc 623B → 623C(~C)
COMBOING OFF OF AVALON
Avalon when it gets grounded counter hit version, leaves the opponent in crumple state, (you will be on the right always) there is enough time to launch the opponent with 623A, but not by much, so the timing is a bit precise The combo you can do off of it depends on how much meter you have left in the activate. If you have none, you can do longer combos by meter regaining after the activate runs out. The basic version is (zero meter after Avalon) AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C > 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B~C If you have too much meter after Avalon hits, you can omit the C followup to the 623B and end with 623B/C
This totals to about 5.5k. You can get more but how much more is character specific.
Excalibur enders post Avalon (30 meter post Avalon, about 4k) AVALON > 623A~62369C > delay > 236236A
(60 meter post Avalon, about 4.5k) AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369C > delay > 236236A
(100 meter post Avalon, about 5.5k) AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A~236C > 236236A
Avalon combo I saw in a combo music video done on Rin (WILL NOT work against Berserker, needs medium or small stage):
AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B > rc > 2147X~C loop (7 hits) > 2369A~236A~236C > 623B > act > (2147X~C loop (11 hits) > 62369A 62369B > 623B > act > jump > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A~236C > 236236A
(video https://www.bilibili.com/video/av20216562/ (at 4:22))
Elfin Ender (safer, but a little harder)
AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B > rc > 2147X~C loop (7 hits) > 2369A~236A~236C > 623B > act > (2147X~C loop (11 hits) > 62369A 62369B > 623B > act > 2147X~C loop (4 hits) > 236236A
Rekka Ender (the easiest, but still in burst radius)
Will kill any 10k characters
AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B > rc > 2147X~C loop (7 hits) > 2369A~236A~236C > 623B > act > (2147X~C loop (11 hits) > 62369A 62369B > 623B > act > 214X~B~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 236236A
623X ender (the hardest, but guaranteed to kill the other Saber
AVALON > 623A jc. > jA jC > land 62369A 2369A~236A > 2C 236A~236A > 2C 236A~236A~236C > 623B > rc > 2147X~C loop (7 hits) > 2369A~236A~236C > 623B > act > (2147X~C loop (11 hits) > 62369A 62369B > 623B > act > 2147X~C loop (2 hits) > (82)623A x2 > (82)623C > 236236A