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==Gameplay== | ==Gameplay== | ||
The Ninja is the archetypal fragile speedster, with quick buttons, | The Ninja is the archetypal fragile speedster, with quick buttons, extensive strings, and unique specials. His strings let him mix up and throw off parry timings, keeping an unfamiliar opponent constantly guessing. To compensate, his health is low, and more glaringly, he does very little damage; he is tied for the lowest damage rating in the game, at 11. This is worse in practice than it might initially look on paper, because Ninja's strings, while useful for mixups, are much less so for combos. As a result, The Ninja is often fighting a constant uphill battle where he might need 5-6 good hits to win a round, while the opponent might be able to do the same with only 3. | ||
Furthermore, the backturn hitstun changes in the PS2 version of MGP2 does not do him any favors. Ninja's 421S is a unique hitgrab that sets up backturn combos, helping Ninja's combo game somewhat. However, since backturn combos were largely removed in the transition from arcade to PS2, Ninja loses out on even this. He still has 421S combos even on PS2, but they are significantly more limited than in Arcade. | |||
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|pros= | |pros= | ||
*Fast buttons. | *Fast buttons. | ||
* | *Varied strings. | ||
|cons= | |cons= | ||
*Low health. | *Low health. | ||
*Abysmal damage output. | *Abysmal damage output. | ||
*Awkward juggle tools. | |||
*Poor OTG options. | |||
}} | }} | ||
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|attribute =LS | |attribute =LS | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =16-26, 14-25 Sp, 14-27 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =13/41 | |meterGain =13/41 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =12 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =10 (14) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-5 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =+7 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =+11 | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
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|attribute =LS | |attribute =LS | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =20-31, 20-30 Sp, 15-29 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =23/41 | |meterGain =23/41 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =10 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =14 (18) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-9 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =+3 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =+7 | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
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|attribute =MS | |attribute =MS | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =47-48, 48 Sp*, 26-47 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =29/53 | |meterGain =29/53 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =21 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =24 (25) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-13 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-7 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =+11 | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
|description= | |description=*Special must be buffered before frame 48 in order to come out frame 48. | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =Launch | |attribute =Launch | ||
|property = | |property =MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =26-46, 26-45 Sp, 24-57 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =11/17 | |meterGain =11/17 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =16 | ||
|active = | |active =6 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =34 (37) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-10 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-20 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
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|attribute =MS | |attribute =MS | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =23-43, 23-42 Sp, 23-53 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =29/53 | |meterGain =29/53 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =21 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =27 (35) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-16 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-10 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =+8 | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
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|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property =MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =56-65 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =25/45 | |meterGain =25/45 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =21 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =39 (43) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-12 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-22 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul =Throw | |invul =7-38 Throw | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =Launch | |attribute =Launch | ||
|property = | |property =MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =43-63 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =11/17 | |meterGain =11/17 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =24 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =34 (38) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-7 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-17 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
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|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =48-68*, 48-67 Sp*, 48-84 KKD* | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =32/61 | |meterGain =32/61 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =32 | ||
|active = | |active =6 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =45 (48) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-21 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-31 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul =Throw | |invul =14-46 Throw | ||
|description= | |description=*Earliest throw cancel is on frame 66. | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =Launch | |attribute =Launch | ||
|property = | |property =MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =26-46, 26-45 Sp, 24-57 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =11/17 | |meterGain =11/17 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =16 | ||
|active = | |active =6 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =35 (37) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-11 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-21 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
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{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|name = | |name = | ||
|subtitle =Rasen | |subtitle =Rasen Kyojibai | ||
|input =8A,2A | |input =8A,6A,2A | ||
|linkname = | |linkname = | ||
|image = | |image =KMGP2_The_Ninja_8A6A2A.png | ||
|caption = | |caption = | ||
|data= | |data= | ||
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|attribute =LS | |attribute =LS | ||
|property =OTG | |property =OTG | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =31-41, 31-40 Sp, 27-48 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =8/21 | |meterGain =8/21 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =19 | ||
|active = | |active =6 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =21 (25) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-17 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-7 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =-3 | ||
|invul =Throw | |invul =2-33 Throw | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|name = | |name = | ||
|subtitle =Rasen | |subtitle =Rasen Jibai | ||
|input =8A | |input =8A,2A | ||
|linkname = | |linkname = | ||
|image = | |image =KMGP2_The_Ninja_8A2A.png | ||
|caption = | |caption = | ||
|data= | |data= | ||
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|attribute =LS | |attribute =LS | ||
|property =OTG | |property =OTG | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =31-41, 31-40 Sp, 27-48 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =8/21 | |meterGain =8/21 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =19 | ||
|active = | |active =6 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =21 (25) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-17 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-7 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =-3 | ||
|invul =Throw | |invul =2-33 Throw | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|attribute =LS | |attribute =LS | ||
|property =OTG | |property =OTG | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =30-40, 30-39 Sp, 26-47 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =8/21 | |meterGain =8/21 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =18 | ||
|active = | |active =6 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =21 (25) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-17 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-7 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =-3 | ||
|invul =Throw | |invul =1-32 Throw | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|attribute =MS | |attribute =MS | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =47-48, 48 Sp*, 26-47 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =29/53 | |meterGain =29/53 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =21 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =24 (25) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-13 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-7 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =+11 | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
|description= | |description=*Special must be buffered before frame 48 in order to come out frame 48. | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|damage =55 | |damage =55 | ||
|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =HS | |attribute =HS-5 | ||
|property = | |property =MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =40-50, 40-49 Sp, 22-53 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =26/47 | |meterGain =26/47 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =17 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =31 (35) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-4 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-14 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =+7~40 | ||
|invul =Throw | |invul =16-31 Throw | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|attribute =MS | |attribute =MS | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =23-43, 23-42 Sp, 23-53 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =29/53 | |meterGain =29/53 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =21 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =27 (35) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-16 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-10 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =+8 | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
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|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property =MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =56-65 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =29/53 | |meterGain =29/53 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =21 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =39 (43) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-12 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-22 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul =Throw | |invul =7-38 Throw | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =Launch | |attribute =Launch | ||
|property = | |property =MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =26-46, 26-45 Sp, 24-57 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =11/17 | |meterGain =11/17 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =16 | ||
|active = | |active =6 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =35 (37) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-11 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-21 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
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|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =Launch | |attribute =Launch | ||
|property = | |property =MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =43-63 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =11/17 | |meterGain =11/17 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =24 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =34 (38) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-7 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-17 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
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|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =Launch | |attribute =Launch | ||
|property = | |property =MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =26-46, 26-45 Sp, 24-57 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =11/17 | |meterGain =11/17 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =16 | ||
|active = | |active =6 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =35 (37) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-11 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-21 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
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|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property =MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =49-69, 49-68 Sp, 41-85 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =32/61 | |meterGain =32/61 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =33 | ||
|active = | |active =6 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =41 (48) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-17 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-27 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul =Throw | |invul =15-47 Throw | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property =MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =49-69, 49-68 Sp, 41-85 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =32/61 | |meterGain =32/61 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =33 | ||
|active = | |active =6 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =41 (48) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-17 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-27 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul =Throw | |invul =15-47 Throw | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =Launch | |attribute =Launch | ||
|property = | |property =MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =25-45, 25-44 Sp, 23-56 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =11/17 | |meterGain =11/17 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =15 | ||
|active = | |active =6 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =34 (37) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-10 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-20 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
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|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property =MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =49-69, 49-68 Sp, 41-85 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =32/61 | |meterGain =32/61 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =33 | ||
|active = | |active =6 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =41 (48) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-17 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-27 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul =15-47 Throw | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =LS | |attribute =LS | ||
|property = | |property =MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =31-41, 31-40 Sp, 25-48 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =8/21 | |meterGain =8/21 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =19 | ||
|active = | |active =4 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =23 (27) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-12 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-7 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =-3 | ||
|invul =Throw | |invul =2-33 Throw | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property =SKD | |property =SKD,MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =45-53 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =26/47 | |meterGain =26/47 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =24 | ||
|active = | |active =6 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =21 (25) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =+3 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-7 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul =13-23 Throw | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|damage =55 | |damage =55 | ||
|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =HS | |attribute =HS-5 | ||
|property = | |property =MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =40-52 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =26/47 | |meterGain =26/47 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =16 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =31 (35) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-4 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-14 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =+7~40 | ||
|invul =Throw | |invul =15-30 Throw | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|attribute =MS | |attribute =MS | ||
|property =SKD | |property =SKD | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =40-45, 45 Sp*, 36-46 KKD | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =29/53 | |meterGain =29/53 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =20 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =23 (25) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-12 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-6 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =+12 | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
|description= | |description=*Special must be buffered before frame 45 in order to come out frame 45. | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property =MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =36/24 | |meterGain =36/24 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =15 | ||
|active = | |active =4 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =51 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-25 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-35 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul =Throw | |invul =12-48 Throw | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|attribute =MS | |attribute =MS | ||
|property =SKD,OTG | |property =SKD,OTG | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain = | |meterGain =42/21 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =22 | ||
|active = | |active =14 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =12 (16) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-10 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-6 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =+12 | ||
|invul = | |invul =1-21 Full, 22 Throw | ||
|description= | |description=Generic wakeup sweep. | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =90/52 | |meterGain =90/52 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =24 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =26 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-16 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
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|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =80/47 | |meterGain =80/47 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =24 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =26 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-16 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
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|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =100/60 | |meterGain =100/60 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =24 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =26 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-16 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
|description= | |description=*Guarantees 2A OTG. | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =90/52 | |meterGain =90/52 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =24 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =26 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-16 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
|description= | |description=*Guarantees 2A OTG. | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =104/58 | |meterGain =104/58 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =24 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =26 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-16 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
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|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =100/50 | |meterGain =100/50 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =21 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =28 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv = | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
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|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =120/55 | |meterGain =120/55 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =21 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =28 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv = | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
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|invul = | |invul = | ||
|description=Guaranteed quick OTG. | |description=Guaranteed quick OTG. | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =160/120 | |meterGain =160/120 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =24 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =26 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-16 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
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|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =70/54 | |meterGain =70/54 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =24 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =26 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-16 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
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|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =40/200 | |meterGain =40/200 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =1 | ||
|active = | |active =10 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =84 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv = | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
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|guard =N/A | |guard =N/A | ||
|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property =MD | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =30/-100 | |meterGain =30/-100 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =12 | ||
|active = | |active =23 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =7 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv = | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
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{{AttackData-KMGP2 | {{AttackData-KMGP2 | ||
|damage =132 | |damage =132 | ||
|guard = | |guard =Tech | ||
|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =100/50 | |meterGain =100/50 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =39 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =28 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-16 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul =1-33 Full, 34-40 Throw | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|attribute =Run | |attribute =Run | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =0/0 | |meterGain =0/0 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =27 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =27 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-16 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =+17~35 | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
|description=Universal Irish Whip. | |description=Universal Irish Whip. | ||
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|attribute =Special | |attribute =Special | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =0/0 | |meterGain =0/0 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =24 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =26 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-16 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =+10 | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
|description=Universal side switch throw. | |description=Universal side switch throw. | ||
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|damage =88 | |damage =88 | ||
|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =HS | |attribute =HS-5 | ||
|property = | |property =MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =35-63 KKD | ||
|cost =1 | |cost =1 | ||
|meterGain =-100/80 | |meterGain =-100/80 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =25 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =33 (37) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-6 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-16 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =+5~38 | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
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|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost =3 | |cost =3 | ||
|meterGain =-300/135 | |meterGain =-300/135 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =24 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =28 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-16 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul =1-3 Full | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|linkname = | |linkname = | ||
|image =KMGP2_The_Ninja_44S.png | |image =KMGP2_The_Ninja_44S.png | ||
|caption = | |caption =Order and Betrayal at Will | ||
|data= | |data= | ||
{{AttackData-KMGP2 | {{AttackData-KMGP2 | ||
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|attribute =See Desc. | |attribute =See Desc. | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost =5 | |cost =5 | ||
|meterGain =-500/See Desc. | |meterGain =-500/See Desc. | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =1 | ||
|active = | |active =52 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =52 Total* | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv = | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =See Desc. | ||
|invul = | |invul =1-52 Non-Super | ||
|description= | |description=Counter move that is active frame 1, countering everything but supers. | ||
*On successful counter, this move will "copy" the move that hits it; for example, countering a throw will cause Ninja to do that throw on the opponent, while countering a launcher will cause the opponent to be launched instead. | |||
*Although the counter copies the countered move's attribute and opponent's meter gain value, the damage will be scaled to Ninja's damage rating of 11 (see formula below). As Ninja's damage rating is tied for lowest in the game, against every character besides other damage rating 11 characters, the copied move will do noticeably less damage than their original counterpart. | |||
*This counter does not actually have a recovery; it is active for the entire 52 frames of its animation. If a strike is countered, Ninja still needs to finish the full animation of this counter, effectively making the remainder frames of the counter the "recovery". | |||
*Countering an opponent's strike while Ninja or the opponent has True Green KKD active will not reduce the countered move's hitstun. | |||
*Damage formula: (Countered move's damage/Opponent's damage rating)*11 | *Damage formula: (Countered move's damage/Opponent's damage rating)*11 | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property =OTG | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost =2 | |cost =2 | ||
|meterGain =-200/146 | |meterGain =-200/146 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =17 | ||
|active = | |active =6 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =36 (40) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-12 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-28 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul =1-3 Full | ||
|description=Hitgrab. | |description=Hitgrab. | ||
*This can hit OTG, for awful damage since it will not trigger the hitgrab animation. Considering Ninja's poor OTG options and damage overall, this is still a not-bad option if Ninja needs to eke out as much damage as he can get. | |||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|damage =44 | |damage =44 | ||
|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute = | |attribute =Special | ||
|property =OTG | |property =OTG,MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost =2 | |cost =2 | ||
|meterGain =-200/125 | |meterGain =-200/125 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =32 | ||
|active = | |active =12 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =47 (50) Total | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-7 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =+5 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul =1-3 Strike | ||
|description=Projectile. Guarantees | |description=Projectile. | ||
*Guarantees 2A OTG if it hits close. | |||
*Causes LS blockstun on block, but knocks down on hit. | |||
*Although it is not active until frame 32, the projectile itself comes out on frame 3, meaning it can be kara KKD'd. | |||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost =5 | |cost =5 | ||
|meterGain =-500/100 | |meterGain =-500/100 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =24 | ||
|active = | |active =3 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =28 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-16 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul =1-3 Full | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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{{AttackData-KMGP2 | {{AttackData-KMGP2 | ||
|damage =275 | |damage =275 | ||
|guard = | |guard =N/A | ||
|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost = | |cost = | ||
|meterGain =0/225 | |meterGain =0/225 | ||
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|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
|description= | |description=*Guarantees 2A OTG. | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|data= | |data= | ||
{{AttackData-KMGP2 | {{AttackData-KMGP2 | ||
|damage = | |damage =33x5 | ||
|guard =Block/Parry | |guard =Block/Parry | ||
|attribute = | |attribute =HS-5x5 | ||
|property =OTG | |property =OTG,MBU | ||
|cancel = | |cancel =87-110 KKD | ||
|cost =1 | |cost =1 | ||
|meterGain =-100/ | |meterGain =-100/20x5 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =50 | ||
|active = | |active =35 (7) | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =23 (27) | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =+5 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-6~+32 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul =Throw | |invul =15-45 Strike, 46 Full, 47-85 Throw | ||
|description= | |description=*Data above assumes all hits landed. Parry data assumes this was done point blank in the corner, such that it causes a from-behind HS hit. | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|attribute =Special | |attribute =Special | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost =3 | |cost =3 | ||
|meterGain =-300/168 | |meterGain =-300/168 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =14 | ||
|active = | |active =19 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =21 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-32 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv =-26 | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv =+16 | ||
|invul = | |invul = | ||
|description= | |description=Unique hitgrab that leaves the opponent in standing hitstun while teleporting Ninja behind them. | ||
*As this combos from A,A, this can be used as a combo extender, while opening up the possibility for backturn combos. These are much more limited in the PS2 version, however. | |||
*Unlike most hitgrabs, this is not unblockable in MAX Blue True KKD. | |||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost =9 | |cost =9 | ||
|meterGain =-900/480 | |meterGain =-900/480 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =14 | ||
|active = | |active =7 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =20 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-16 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul =1=15 Full | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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|attribute =KD | |attribute =KD | ||
|property = | |property = | ||
|cancel = | |cancel = | ||
|cost =9 | |cost =9 | ||
|meterGain =-900/480 | |meterGain =-900/480 | ||
<!------------> | <!------------> | ||
|startup = | |startup =14 | ||
|active = | |active =7 | ||
|recovery = | |recovery =20 | ||
|guardAdv = | |guardAdv =-16 | ||
|parryAdv = | |parryAdv = | ||
|hitAdv = | |hitAdv = | ||
|invul = | |invul =1=15 Full | ||
|description=(placeholder text) | |description=(placeholder text) | ||
}} | }} | ||
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==Combos== | ==Combos== | ||
===Midscreen=== | |||
*'''236T, 2A (cc)'''<br>(placeholder text) | |||
*'''A xx 46S'''<br>(placeholder text) | |||
*'''66A (cc), 236A xx 623T'''<br>(placeholder text) | |||
*'''66A xx 623S, A,A xx 623T'''<br>(placeholder text) | |||
*'''46A, 2A,6A (cc), 236A, 236A xx 623T'''<br>(placeholder text) | |||
*'''A,A xx 421S, A,A,6A (cc), 236A xx 623T'''<br>Arcade-only 421S combo into a launch. | |||
*'''A,A xx 421S, A xx 46S'''<br>Lower damage 421S combo that works on PS2. | |||
===Ropes=== | |||
*'''(Rope Bounce) A, 66A (cc), 4A, 4A/236A, A,A xx 623T'''<br>(placeholder text) | |||
==Colors== | ==Colors== |
Latest revision as of 19:11, 28 May 2024
Story
The Ninja is one of the Devil Knights, and as his name might imply, he is a ninja. A Choujin ninja, that is. As one might expect, he makes use of all sorts ninja techniques his theme song terms "Japanese Magic", i.e. Ninjutsu. His signature technique, Jungyaku Jizai no Jutsu, is a move where The Ninja uses his super speed to swap places with his opponent. Aside from his status as a Devil Knight, his other notable exploit was his tenure as part of Kinnikuman Soldier's Choujin Blood Brigade, an all-star team of fan-favorite Choujins gathered by Kinnikuman Soldier.
Gameplay
The Ninja is the archetypal fragile speedster, with quick buttons, extensive strings, and unique specials. His strings let him mix up and throw off parry timings, keeping an unfamiliar opponent constantly guessing. To compensate, his health is low, and more glaringly, he does very little damage; he is tied for the lowest damage rating in the game, at 11. This is worse in practice than it might initially look on paper, because Ninja's strings, while useful for mixups, are much less so for combos. As a result, The Ninja is often fighting a constant uphill battle where he might need 5-6 good hits to win a round, while the opponent might be able to do the same with only 3.
Furthermore, the backturn hitstun changes in the PS2 version of MGP2 does not do him any favors. Ninja's 421S is a unique hitgrab that sets up backturn combos, helping Ninja's combo game somewhat. However, since backturn combos were largely removed in the transition from arcade to PS2, Ninja loses out on even this. He still has 421S combos even on PS2, but they are significantly more limited than in Arcade.
Strengths | Weaknesses |
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Character Stats
- Health: 950
- Damage rating: 11
- Size/weight: Standard
- Movement speed: A
Strikes
A
A
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A,A
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A,A,A
Hayasen Katana |
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A,A,6A
Hayasen Kyogiri |
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A,A,4A
Hayasen Zugaiwari |
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A,A,4A,4A
Hayasen Katchu-Tachi |
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A,A,4A,6A
Togai Kyogiri |
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8A
8A
Rasen Dengakuzashi |
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8A,6A
Rasen Kyogiri |
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8A,6A,2A
Rasen Kyojibai |
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8A,2A
Rasen Jibai |
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2A
2A
Jibai Ashi |
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2A,A
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2A,A,A
Jibai Renge |
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2A,A,4A
Jibai Renge Ashi |
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2A,A,4A,4A
Jibai Renge Haya-Ashi |
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2A,A,6A
Jibai Renge Kyo |
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2A,A,4A,6A
Jibai Togai Kyo |
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2A,6A
Jibai Kyogiri |
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2A,6A,8A
Jibai Kyorasen |
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2A,8A
Jibai Rasen |
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66A
66A
Kyogiri |
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66A,8A
Kyorasen |
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66A,2A
Kyojibai |
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4A
4A
Harai |
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46A
46A
Agowari |
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236A
236A
Shunten |
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WRA
(While Running) A
Dengakuzashi |
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WGA
(While Grounded) A
|
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Throws
T
Maki Nage
T |
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6T
Oklahoma Stampede
6T |
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46T
Side Suplex
46T |
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236T
Ura Nage
236T |
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214T
Aiki Nage
214T |
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MST
Flying Armbar
(Medium Stun) T |
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HST
Foot-Binding Heel Hold
(Heavy Stun) T |
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FBT
Bow & Arrow Hold
(From Behind) T |
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FB6T
Ankle Hold
(From Behind) 6T |
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AB623T
Avalanche Hold
(Airborne) 623T |
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RT
Ippon Seoi
(Running) T |
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WGT
Flying Armbar
(While Grounded) T |
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4T
Irish Whip
4T |
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44T
Side Switch
44T |
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Specials
S
Seikendzuki
S |
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66S
Avalanche Hold
66S |
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44S
Jungyaku Jizai no Jutsu
44S |
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46S
Dark Spider Drop
46S |
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236S
Ninja Shuriken
236S |
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214S
Seoi Nage
214S |
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Cross Armbar
214S,44T |
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623S
Shuriken Stomp
623S |
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421S
Turnover Jutsu
421S |
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Supers
214T+S
Ninpo: Hellfire Feather Ring Jutsu
214T+S |
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NR214T+S
Ninpo: Binding Spider Web
(Near Ropes) 214T+S |
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Strategy
Combos
Midscreen
- 236T, 2A (cc)
(placeholder text)
- A xx 46S
(placeholder text)
- 66A (cc), 236A xx 623T
(placeholder text)
- 66A xx 623S, A,A xx 623T
(placeholder text)
- 46A, 2A,6A (cc), 236A, 236A xx 623T
(placeholder text)
- A,A xx 421S, A,A,6A (cc), 236A xx 623T
Arcade-only 421S combo into a launch.
- A,A xx 421S, A xx 46S
Lower damage 421S combo that works on PS2.
Ropes
- (Rope Bounce) A, 66A (cc), 4A, 4A/236A, A,A xx 623T
(placeholder text)
Colors
External Links
- Google Docs by fishtrabs