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*Would be a better team if certain characters (BEATRICE) didn’t exist. They can also struggle against bulky teams. | *Would be a better team if certain characters (BEATRICE) didn’t exist. They can also struggle against bulky teams. | ||
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| | | [[File:KANBBAT.png|frameless]] || '''<big>Kanon/Black Battler</big>''' || Health || | ||
*Plays the same as Bat/Kan but with pitiful bulk and difficulty stunning. | *Plays the same as Bat/Kan but with pitiful bulk and difficulty stunning. | ||
*BB’s meterless reversal makes this team’s neutral that much better, but his low health leaves absolutely no room for error, so this team hates getting hit. | *BB’s meterless reversal makes this team’s neutral that much better, but his low health leaves absolutely no room for error, so this team hates getting hit. | ||
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*Still there’s no real reason not to pick Will for Kanon instead, as SPCancel boosts his damage similarly in practicality and Will overall suits his style better: he’s more about confirms than pressure. | *Still there’s no real reason not to pick Will for Kanon instead, as SPCancel boosts his damage similarly in practicality and Will overall suits his style better: he’s more about confirms than pressure. | ||
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| | | [[File:KANGEOR.png|frameless]] || '''<big>Kanon/George</big>''' || Health || | ||
*Awkward and low damage. Reacts poorly to pressure unless George has an SP advantage. | *Awkward and low damage. Reacts poorly to pressure unless George has an SP advantage. | ||
*Kind of decent neutral and mixup. | *Kind of decent neutral and mixup. | ||
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*Fairly solid neutral though, with a few weaknesses. | *Fairly solid neutral though, with a few weaknesses. | ||
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| | | [[File:KANSHAN.png|frameless]] || '''<big>Kanon/Shannon</big>''' || Health || | ||
*Similar to Kan/Jess but a bit more defensively-oriented, which Kanon honestly doesn’t appreciate. | *Similar to Kan/Jess but a bit more defensively-oriented, which Kanon honestly doesn’t appreciate. | ||
*These two definitely have complementary movesets and can come up with answers for most opponents, but their damage is low outside of Shannon’s corner loop. | *These two definitely have complementary movesets and can come up with answers for most opponents, but their damage is low outside of Shannon’s corner loop. | ||
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*Struggles defensively. | *Struggles defensively. | ||
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| | | [[File:KANWILL.png|frameless]] || '''<big>Kanon/Willard</big>''' || Health || | ||
*Kanon is one of the characters most grateful for SPCancel as it enables him to perform new and more damaging combos by restanding opponents OTG. This does a lot to improve his damage. | *Kanon is one of the characters most grateful for SPCancel as it enables him to perform new and more damaging combos by restanding opponents OTG. This does a lot to improve his damage. | ||
*Both of these characters have great neutral and together they’ll do a lot of damage and stun. Will can appreciate Silent Attack in his juggles outside of MetaWorld, and while he generally creates advantage without it, it enforces it. | *Both of these characters have great neutral and together they’ll do a lot of damage and stun. Will can appreciate Silent Attack in his juggles outside of MetaWorld, and while he generally creates advantage without it, it enforces it. |
Latest revision as of 17:46, 3 August 2023
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Background
Kanon serves as a servant for the Ushiromiya family, and is romantically connected with Jessica. His backstory is fascinating.
Introduction
Kanon is pretty similar to Lucifer, both being fast characters with good neutral, and while Lucifer has little better pressure and neutral button wise, Kanon has better damage, mobility with walljump and leap special. Kanon's defense is also more solid with better antiairs and invincible reversal. Kanon is excellent partner to zoning heavy character since thanks to his ability his team can get huge meter lead fast.
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Ability
Silent Attack - Drastically reduces the amount of SP the opponent gains from your attacks.
Move List
Normal Moves
Standing
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Jumping
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Throw
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Special Moves
-Triangle Jump 「三角飛び」 ― j.9 against a wall: Kanon can jump off the wall as he jumps into it.
Wolf Jump 「跳狼」
(j.)41236A/B/C |
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Water Slice 「水面斬り」
623A/B/C |
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Shadow Slice 「影斬り」
214A/B/C |
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Crescent Moon Slice 「三日月斬り」
j.236A/B/C |
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SP Supers
Moon Reflection Slice 「水月斬」
623A+B |
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Shadow Trisection 「影殺三段」
214A+B |
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Linked Crescent Moons 「連ね三日月」
j.236A+B |
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Level 2 Super
Reddened Moonlit Wolf Shadow 「赤き軌跡の月下狼影」
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Meta Super
Reddened Arc Moon Slashes 「赤き軌跡の弧月連斬」
641236C during MetaWorld |
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Frame Data
KD = Knockdown
| Frames | Frame Advantage | Attack | Damage|Startup*| Active | Recovery |On Hit | On Block | Notes Throw ------------------------------------------------------------------ B+C | 300 | 0-1 | ? | ? | TKD | |36 Duration on Whiff Normals ------------------------------------------------------------------ c.5A | 42 | 4 | 2 | 14 | -5 | -6 | f.5A | 36 | 8 | 4 | 7 | -1 | -1 | 2A | 42 | 5 | 4 | 7 | -1 | -1 | c.5B | 150 | 7 | 7 | 22 | -13 | -15 | f.5B | 135 | 8 | 3 | 17 | -4 | -6 | 2B | 150-90| 8 | 2,2,2 | 25 | -15 | -17 |Hits only once; See Note E c.5C | 261 | 12 | 2 | 40 | -17 | -20 | f.5C | 231 | 10 | 2 | 29 | -6 | -9 | 2C | 210 | 18 | 3 | 30 | KD | -11 | j.5B | 135 | 8 | 2 | 13 | | | j.5C | 234 | 12 | 4 | 15 | | | j8.5A | 60 | 3 | 25 | 6 | | | j(7/9).5A | 60 | 4 | 9 | 4 | | | Command Normals ------------------------------------------------------------------ 6C | 315 | 16 | 3 | 33 | -11 | -14 | j.2C | 306 | 13 | 6* | 20 | UKD | -4/+1 |See Note F Specials ------------------------------------------------------------------ 623A | 276 | 7 | ? | ? | KD | -22 | 623B | 312 | 7 | ? | ? | KD | -28 | 623C | 372 | 7 | ? | ? | KD | -34 | j.236A | 180 | 14 | ? | ? | | | j.236B | 180 | 17 | ? | ? | | | j.236C | 180 | 17 | ? | ? | | | 41236A | -- | 16 | ? | ? | -- | -- | 41236B | -- | 16 | ? | ? | -- | -- | 41236C | -- | 16 | ? | ? | -- | -- | j.41236A | -- | 16 | ? | ? | -- | -- | j.41236B | -- | 16 | ? | ? | -- | -- | j.41236C | -- | 16 | ? | ? | -- | -- | 214A | -- | 12 | ? | 16 | -- | -- | 214B | 240 | 16 | ? | ? | KD | -9 | 214C | 240 | 16 | ? | ? | KD | -13 | SPs and Meta ------------------------------------------------------------------ j.236A+B | 588 | 16 | ? | ? | KD | | 623A+B | 540 | 9 | ? | ? | KD | -36 | 214A+B | 540 | 18 | ? | ? | KD | -2 | 236x2C | 645 | 12 | ? | ? | KD | -6 | 641236C | 750 | 7 | ? | ? | KD | -19 |
Note E: Hits only once; Each hit has different damage (150, 120, 90), and Guard (L, L, M). Unconfirmed: The last hit might be considered a lower level attack (ie: less hitstun/guardstun) than the first two. Note F: 20 frames of forced (crouching) landing recovery that cannot be canceled. Knockdown only occurs on grounded opponents. Animation-wise; it is active until Kanon lands.
Strategy
Feel free to edit this part of the wiki with your tips/strats on how to use Kanon and his strategy vs specific characters. Remember I'm watching you.
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Team Building
Feel free to edit this part of the wiki with your tips/strats what partners are best for Kanon to use. Remember I'm watching you. The information displayed here is from the 2022 Team Tier List from the Ougon Discord Thus, it is open to change, but it should work as a building block for people looking for team pairing ideas. If you are a player of any of the teams and want to change anything feel free to do so.
Reasons to choose Kanon for your team
- Kanon is a very similar character to Lucifer, and while she offers better rushdown options and a more specialized grounded approach, Kanon's movement options combined with his good buttons in all angles make him a menace in neutral and especially midrange. He is one of the few characters with solid grounded anti airs. His Wolf Jump pressure and left right potential midscreen also make him scary up close. Silent Attack can also be a game changer, especially for and against teams that rely on meter advantage. This is balanced by Kanon's skewed risk and reward. He can get a lot of hits in, but his damage is subpar, as well as his health, so he needs to win more interactions than average with a higher risk attached to them. He also lacks any + ob normals, so a Kanon who gets predictable on pressure tends to pay severely.
- If you need a summary as to who to choose in a team, Lucifer is a Point character that tends to benefit more proactive and predictive play, while Kanon is a Point who benefits a more reactive and counterplay based approach.
Combos
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Combo | Damage | Cost | Meter Gain | Location |
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2A > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > 623A/B/C | 1043 | 0 | 95% | Anywhere |
Basic BnB combo. | ||||
2A > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > 41236B/C > j.B > j.C > f.5B > 623A/B/C | 1329 | 0 | 99% | Anywhere |
A more challenging version of the BnB. | ||||
2A > 2B > 5B > 5C > A+B+C > 2A > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > 641236C/236236C | 1723/1752 | 1SP/2SP | 105%/99% | Anywhere |
Basic BnB Meta combo. 2SP version ends in stun for most characters. | ||||
2A > 2B > 5B > 5C > A+B+C > 9j.B > 9j.C > 2A > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > 641236C/236236C | 1919/1963 | 1SP/3SP | Anywhere | |
A variation of the BnB meta combo.
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2A > 2B > 5B > 5C > A+B+C > 9j.B > 9j.C > Land 9j.A > 9j.B > 9j.C > 2A > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > 641236C/236236C | 2338/2404 | 1SP/3SP | ||
A rejump combo variation of the BnB meta combo.
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2A > 2B > 5B > 5C > A+B+C > 41236B/C > j.B > 236A > 66 > 2A > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > 641236C/236236C | ||||
Yet another variation of the BnB meta combo. | ||||
2A > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > A+B+C > 9j.B > 9j.C > j.236A+B | 1305 | 2SP | ||
A different meta combo you can use that gives a hard knockdown. | ||||
Video Examples
Resources
黄金夢想曲†CROSS 嘉音&紗音コンボムービー【-double-】 - Kanon/Shannon combo video
黄金夢想曲†CROSS 嘉音&紗音コンボムービー【die zwillinge】 - Kanon/Shannon combo video
黄金夢想曲†CROSS 嘉音&紗音コンボムービー【-Bonds-】4 - Kanon/Shannon combo video
黄金夢想曲†CROSS 嘉音&紗音コンボムービー【-resolution-】 - Kanon/Shannon combo video
黄金夢想曲†CROSS 嘉音&紗音コンボムービー【-reveal the truth-】 - Kanon/Shannon combo video