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Lilith Memos

  • Luminous Illusion Hand Guides
N-Bee
Hilary
  • Character highlights from Twitter
https://twitter.com/search?q=%40VMP_KyleW%20(LI)&src=typd
  • Lilith cannot combo into Gloomy Puppet Show on an air opponent in DF, unless the starter is Mystic Arrow
https://twitter.com/VMP_KyleW/status/1021230008889573376
  • Dash Links with lp, RENDA st.lp LINK d.lp
https://twitter.com/ririrililith/status/826375820700635136
  • In the corner, ES-Soul Flash can be used as a frame trap for big damage
https://twitter.com/VMP_KyleW/status/898408729292398593
https://twitter.com/VMP_KyleW/status/915776044711292928
https://twitter.com/VMP_KyleW/status/990001968411131904
https://twitter.com/VMP_KyleW/status/989999565603590144
  • Lilith cannot cancel her 3-frames of super-jump startup with any attack
  • Dashing attacks execute as 1-frame faster
  • Dark Force of "Mimic Doll" LP+LK or MP+MK has a 31-frame delay to Lilith's attacks & does 25% damage.
  • Lilith's frame advantage after a throw-tech differs from mid-screen compared to the corner
Mid-Screen
http://seesaawiki.jp/vswiki/d/%a1%da%a5%ea%a5%ea%a5%b9%a1%db%c5%ea%a4%b2%c8%b4%a4%b1
Corner
http://seesaawiki.jp/vswiki/d/%a1%da%a5%ea%a5%ea%a5%b9%a1%db%c5%ea%a4%b2%c8%b4%a4%b1%a1%ca%b2%e8%cc%cc%c3%bc%a1%cb
  • To complete a LI confirm with cr.lk, st.mk or cr.lk, st.hp; will leave Lilith with +2f or +3f, but, the distance from the opponent will change slightly. Decide accordingly, as you may want to jump or dash to continue pressurewhen you confirm the block. Additionally, on-hit, the HP x LI confirm will place Lilith closer to the opponent & avoid a slight screen scroll.
  • To compare a LI confirm with d.mk or d.close-hp; the hp has 2-more frames of hitstun, making the LI confirm marginally easier.
  • st.far-HP has more push-back & can cause LI to whiff from a confirm. just assume cr.lk, st.far-HP x LI will always whiff at mid-screen.
  • To compare damage of d.mk x LI or d.hp x LI; The white damage is equal. The red damage is definitely in favor for the HP-versoin. Be mindfull, that consistency of confirms is more important than overall damage in one situation.
  • A corner attack with LI can be 19-hits in total, as some light punches may whiff.
  • Soul Flash has no minimum height restriction. This makes Tiger-Knee Soul Flash very strong. Tiger-Knee soul flash is a great Anti-Air.
https://twitter.com/VMP_KyleW/status/858780100321398786
https://twitter.com/VMP_KyleW/status/934897928908431360
  • Lilith cannot special cancel if she does an empty-air-chain. J.lp, j.mk-whiff, recover, j.mk... LI is still possible tho.


  • ES-Shining blade has a big enough gap between the hits for the opponent to execute a Dark Force & get a HUGE punish.
  • After air-guarding, it seems Morrigan & Lilith cannot immediately ground guard. This becomes troublesome with LeiLei's Tenraiha.
モリガン、リリスは一旦空中ガードポーズをとった後に、着地までにガードポーズがとける。サンダーブレイクに対しても空中ガードポーズをとらない。たぶん空中不能弱Kを喰らえる。
  • Counter setups to corner throw-tech traps, by: Hosokawa
https://youtu.be/VpryOIwBAB4?t=1s
  • Jump chains against Demitri
https://youtu.be/vfS9rrjxuu4?t=10m2s
  • Es-Soul_Flash as (1) or (2) hits allows ES-Shining_Blade or ES-Merry_Twirl to combo
https://twitter.com/egooolei/status/1031526645373362177
  • Force trade combos using puppet Show
Standing
https://twitter.com/VMP_KyleW/status/1094336537368485889
Crouching
https://twitter.com/VMP_KyleW/status/1094346853196296192
  • Huge punish against Anakaris' anti-pursuit move, while showcasing some unique bugs too
https://twitter.com/hama__hama_/status/1127945191124455426
  • 1998 Combo Video
https://youtu.be/uBvWH694wck?t=891
  • Win Poses
You can manually select your win pose in this game by holding down a button after the KO:
LP: Lilith lies down on a cushion made of her bat familiars and taunts saying "You're so bad at this"
MP: Lilith jumps up and down laughing in celebration, and says "Well done!"
HP: Lilith does a backflip, changes into denim jeans and a half cut shirt, and asks "Shall we go and play?"
LK: Lilith does a backflip, changes into a flower pattern skirt, and asks "So, am I cute?"
MK: Lilith does a backflip, changes into a marching band outfit, and says "Hey!"
HK: Lilith does a backflip, changes into a leather biker outfit, and says "I did it!"

Lilith Bugs

  • The alter-ego Hit-stun can disrupt LI's auto-combo. If the opponent escapes, unique results can happen.
https://youtu.be/vfS9rrjxuu4?t=18m13s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgfuiJ_DLkY
https://youtu.be/uBvWH694wck?t=1437
https://twitter.com/ririrililith/status/892011874941718529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnIk94TDIlc
  • Tech-Hit x Projectile Displacement w/ Soul Flash
  • Guard-Lock Unblock w/ ES-Soul Flash
https://twitter.com/VMP_KyleW/status/924746516304031744
  • Unblock Puppet Show on Q-Bee & Zabel State-Changing Meter-Costing Projectile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwAui3xNWtQ
https://twitter.com/Beistraxis/status/983727059838078976
https://twitter.com/egooolei/status/983902873439186944
  • LI Auto-correct deathblow causes a missing Torso
https://twitter.com/Imberlicchio/status/684882353672581120
https://twitter.com/Imberlicchio/status/749952091939016704
https://twitter.com/VMP_KyleW/status/936842574895005697
  • Impossible Drop-Out Combo
https://twitter.com/VMP_KyleW/status/934189180229361664
  • Alter-Ego remains without Dark Force
Complete an IMPOSSIBLE DROP-OUT COMBO while in Dark Force
https://youtu.be/ZQqMoe11bI4?t=23s
https://youtu.be/cdGbY6fKCIE?t=19m20s
https://youtu.be/cdGbY6fKCIE?t=4m42s
https://twitter.com/ULurun/status/1004024369750740993
  • High-Jump x Dark Force (HP+HK) Bug
Do HP+HK Dark Force then super-jump as soon as you recover During the screen-wrap animation Lilith has random moments of vulnerability. She can be hit & her air attacks may hit somebody... it's a very brief window.
https://youtu.be/uBvWH694wck?t=1498
https://twitter.com/Imberlicchio/status/763769876062298112
https://twitter.com/VMP_KyleW/status/987622162155487232
Moving Lilith Off-Screen causes some unique interactions
https://twitter.com/hama__hama_/status/1121755191215181825
https://youtu.be/uCCSE4GMdcw
https://twitter.com/VMP_KyleW/status/1122362948180045824
https://twitter.com/VMP_KyleW/status/1131089711039098880
confirmation that the bug is specific to High-Jump & not applicable with Morrigan
https://twitter.com/VMP_KyleW/status/990825672267350017
  • Alter Ego Reduction
Lilith can force this bug onto herself by deactivating Dark Force while the mirage is in hit-stop
https://youtu.be/SkRj5OT3d2U?t=1m6s
  • Dark Force x Juggle State
Deactivate Darkforce while opponent is in juggle-state, re-activate Dark Force then continue a combo
https://youtu.be/vfS9rrjxuu4?t=20m8s
https://youtu.be/vfS9rrjxuu4?t=20m20s
Lilith can activate Dark Force (LP+LK) to enable this bug with Morrigan or Gallon)
https://youtu.be/zsDOJIxVtqQ
  • Dark Force x Luminous trading with a disjointed projectile forces float-state. This can also be setup independently with Mimic Doll juggling LI while the primary Lilith whiffs.
https://twitter.com/egooolei/status/978618097820053504
https://twitter.com/LittleJanneROKA/status/978987518258327555
https://twitter.com/LittleJanneROKA/status/978984953596661760
https://twitter.com/egooolei/status/979346079794610176
  • Unblock ES-Guard Cancel Frames
See The first chart here - Lilith is at frames 5-7
http://darkstalkers.web.fc2.com/savior/system-s/bug-s/bug-s.html
  • Luminous Illusion to solo 1-hit against wide odd pixel width opponents
https://twitter.com/hama__hama_/status/1127642383170949120
https://twitter.com/hama__hama_/status/1127945191124455426
  • Combining numerous BUGS for extra spicy combos
Solo-Hit LI x Juggle State
https://youtu.be/uBvWH694wck?t=977
LI remains outside of DF x Juggle State
https://youtu.be/cdGbY6fKCIE?t=4m23s
https://twitter.com/ULurun/status/985919911351304192
LI remains outside of DF for (2) Lilith's.
https://twitter.com/ririrililith/status/888349343807229953
  • Lilith can not immediately Pursuit Lei Lei after landing LI. This means intentionally whiffing Pursuit after LI to get near and start a tricky walk mix, is not possible against her.


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