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'''Primary Objectives:''' | '''Primary Objectives:''' | ||
* Pressure the opponent with dashing frame traps | * Pressure the opponent with dashing frame traps and Soul Flash | ||
* Abuse her | * Abuse her throw/5HP option select | ||
* Convert hits into Luminous Illusion for big damage | * Convert stray hits into links and Luminous Illusion for big damage and okizeme | ||
{{ProConTable | {{ProConTable | ||
|pros= | |pros= | ||
* | * Good walk speed and dash | ||
* | * Numerous (albeit situational) anti-airs | ||
* Very strong throw option select | * Very strong throw option select | ||
* High damage using Luminous Illusion for combos | * High damage using Luminous Illusion for combos | ||
* Tremendous amount of plus frames for abusing frame advantage. | * Tremendous amount of plus frames for abusing frame advantage. | ||
* Tiger Knee Soul Flash is an effective low-risk tool | * Tiger Knee Soul Flash is an effective low-risk tool | ||
* Has a super jump that | * Has a super jump that compliments her air-to-air game | ||
* Dash pressure is effective at fighting through Tech-Hits and offers strong zurashi | * Dash pressure is effective at fighting through Tech-Hits and offers strong [https://glossary.infil.net/?t=Piano zurashi] | ||
|cons= | |cons= | ||
* | * Has the least health in the game (in the lowest health bracket) | ||
* | * High damage is meter dependent | ||
* | * Limited movement compared to the high tiers | ||
* | * Normal throw is low damage and follow-up options are limited if the opponent throw-techs | ||
* | * Command throw is a poor gimmick with significant start-up | ||
* Major execution barrier of links, LI cancels, and speedy confirms | |||
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== Movement == | == Movement == | ||
'''Walk:''' | '''Walk:''' Like Morrigan, Lilith has above average walkspeed. | ||
'''Dash:''' A ground-based dash. Good | '''Dash:''' A ground-based dash. Good speed, cancelable very early into a quickstop by pressing 4 out of a forward dash or 6 out of a back dash. Attacking during a dash will result in a while-dashing attack. '''All of Lilith's dashing attacks will gain an extra frame of advantage (additional +1 to all dash buttons) as well as a frame less start up.''' The dashing attacks maintain some momentum, so Lilith will continue to slide a bit. This dash is core to Lilith's gameplan, pressure, punishes, and more—be sure to use it! | ||
'''Jump:''' Average jump height and arc. Average startup speed and movement speed. Added cancellable landing recovery pose. | '''Jump:''' Average jump height and arc. Average startup speed and movement speed. Added cancellable landing recovery pose. | ||
'''Super Jump:''' A much higher jump than her standard jump, and also more startup. Lilith will automatically turn around if she crosses over the opponent, allowing her to attack towards the opponent. Aside from the auto turn and jump arc it is identical in all other regards. This move is accompanied by a voice sample and a trail of graphical | '''Super Jump:''' A much higher jump than her standard jump, and also more startup. Lilith will automatically turn around if she crosses over the opponent, allowing her to attack towards the opponent. Aside from the auto turn and jump arc it is identical in all other regards. This move is accompanied by a voice sample and a trail of graphical sparkles. Fairly useful movement option, though not something to be spammed recklessly if not tiger-kneeing into Soul Flash. | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">5LP</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">5LP</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 5 LP | |||
| input = 5LP | | input = 5LP | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_5LP|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_5LP|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | ||
| info = | | info = | ||
A strange 5LP that hits high up, whiffing on most crouching characters. Good on hit/block, but it's rarely worth using in block pressure with how low many characters can crouch in this game—instead, it's primarily used for keeping people from dashing/hopping in or out of your pressure, or for guard breaking. High level Lilith players will use 66LP as a low-committal ireppa punish that can quickly recover to also setup a throw (input 66LP, ~6HP). Also useful as a dash cancel for general movement / spacing as it's your fastest standing normal. | |||
{{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_5LP}} | {{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_5LP}} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">5MP</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">5MP</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 5 MP | |||
| input = 5MP | | input = 5MP | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_5MP|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_5MP|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | ||
| info = | | info = | ||
A good poke with an effective hitbox, cancelability, and good frame advantage on hit/block. It's notably slower than your other mid-range pokes, however, so choosing the right poke isn't always as easy as it seems. It's a go-to move when at a distance for stopping ireppa and keeping an opponent blocking. Lilith can link off of this if it hits from a dash with 2LK. Whiffs on crouching QB & Gallon. | |||
{{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_5MP}} | {{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_5MP}} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">5HP</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">5HP</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 5 HP | |||
| input = 5HP | | input = 5HP | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_5HP|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_5HP|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | ||
| info = | | info = | ||
Has a large hitbox, but hefty recovery. Acts as a solid anti-air to beat upback if properly timed, and CL.HP will come out and anti-air anyway if they're too close. One could use it as a meaty due to its long active frames, but Lilith's other buttons are advantageous enough that there typically isn't a need for that. It's most useful against characters like Q-Bee, as it can cover their short hop angles well. Lilith players will poke with 66HP for a frame-trap; sometimes this version comes out instead of CL.5HP and it's still pretty effective. 66HP is also a good LI opportunity, but the range is finnicky. | |||
{{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_5HP}} | {{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_5HP}} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">5LK</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">5LK</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 5 LK | |||
| input = 5LK | | input = 5LK | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_5LK|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_5LK|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | ||
| info = | | info = | ||
A very good button to start combos and transition into pressure, especially off of dash. It can counter-poke your opponent without the worry of it being crouched, and the frame advantage is so good that you can either make frame traps on block or link a 2LP/2LK/2MK on hit. This is also used after a ES Soul Flash connects: go in with 66LK and start a combo. A highly versatile button in the right hands. | |||
{{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_5LK}} | {{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_5LK}} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">5MK</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">5MK</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 5 MK | |||
| input = 5MK | | input = 5MK | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_5MK|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_5MK|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | ||
| info = | | info = | ||
An effective ground poke with | An effective ground poke with better frame data than 5MP, but in exchange it cannot be special cancelled. On a read or well-placed zurashi, you can cancel to LI. Lilith can abuse this move while dashing as it can stuff jumps and set up effective offensive routes on block. It also connects on all crouching opponents. | ||
{{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_5MK}} | {{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_5MK}} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">5HK</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">5HK</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 5 HK | |||
| input = 5HK | | input = 5HK | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_5HK|2|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_5HK|2|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | ||
| info = | | info = | ||
A slow, multi-hitting button with poor frame data that has limited use as an anti-air, delay, or punish tool. It's too slow to be used to punish the majority of moves in the game—but its range, startup, multiple hits, and ability to be dashed in with can allow you to situationally use it as an LI confirm tool from ranges that wouldn't normally give you anything. | |||
{{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_5HK}} | {{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_5HK}} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">CL.5LP</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">CL.5LP</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| input = | | title = Close 5LP | ||
| input = cl.5LP | |||
| images = | | images = | ||
{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_CL_5LP|caption=}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_CL_5LP|caption=}} | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">CL.5MP</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">CL.5MP</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| input = | | title = Close 5MP | ||
| input = cl.5MP | |||
| images = | | images = | ||
{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_CL_5MP|caption=}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_CL_5MP|caption=}} | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">CL.5HP</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">CL.5HP</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| input = | | title = Close 5HP | ||
| input = cl.5HP | |||
| images = | | images = | ||
{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_CL_5HP|caption=}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_CL_5HP|caption=}} | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">CL.5LK</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">CL.5LK</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| input = | | title = Close 5LK | ||
| input = cl.5LK | |||
| images = | | images = | ||
{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_CL_5LK|caption=}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_CL_5LK|caption=}} | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">CL.5HK</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">CL.5HK</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| input = | | title = Close 5HK | ||
| input = cl.5HK | |||
| images = | | images = | ||
{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_CL_5HK|caption=}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_CL_5HK|caption=}} | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">2LP</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">2LP</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 2 LP | |||
| input = 2LP | | input = 2LP | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">2MP</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">2MP</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 2 MP | |||
| input = 2MP | | input = 2MP | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">2HP</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">2HP</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 2 HP | |||
| input = 2HP | | input = 2HP | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">2LK</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">2LK</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 2 LK | |||
| input = 2LK | | input = 2LK | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">2MK</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">2MK</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 2 MK | |||
| input = 2MK | | input = 2MK | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_2MK|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_2MK|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | ||
| info = | | info = | ||
Hits low, cancelable, decent frame advantage. Good for kara-cancels | Hits low, cancelable, decent frame advantage and very fast startup. Unique from Morrigan's in its superior range and the fact that it's as fast as a crouching light, the only downside being its increased recovery frames. Good for cancels on block or kara-cancels into Soul Flash at midrange. | ||
{{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_2MK}} | {{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_2MK}} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">2HK</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">2HK</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 2 HK | |||
| input = 2HK | | input = 2HK | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_2HK|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_2HK|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | ||
| info = | | info = | ||
Combo into 2HK for a knockdown, or use it on block to setup a gimmicky frame-trap with a late LI cancel. It is highly unsafe on block, with the only exception being the risk of a LI cancel. | Combo into 2HK for a knockdown, or use it on block to setup a gimmicky frame-trap with a late LI cancel. It is highly unsafe on block, with the only exception being the risk of a LI cancel. Can also low profile some pokes and fireballs, letting you punish them on reaction. | ||
{{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_2HK}} | {{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_2HK}} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">8J.LP</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">8J.LP</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 8J LP | |||
| input = 8J.LP | | input = 8J.LP | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">8J.MP</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">8J.MP</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 8J MP | |||
| input = 8J.MP | | input = 8J.MP | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">8J.HP</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">8J.HP</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 8J HP | |||
| input = 8J.HP | | input = 8J.HP | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">8J.LK</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">8J.LK</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 8J LK | |||
| input = 8J.LK | | input = 8J.LK | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_8J_LK|2|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_8J_LK|2|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | ||
| info = | | info = | ||
Bizarre hurtbox. Can be used to wall out opponent's from walking underneath you, due to Lilith's throwbox extending so far to the ground. | |||
{{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_8J_LK}} | {{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_8J_LK}} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">8J.MK</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">8J.MK</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 8J MK | |||
| input = 8J.MK | | input = 8J.MK | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">8J.HK</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">8J.HK</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| title = 8J HK | |||
| input =8J.HK | | input =8J.HK | ||
| images = | | images = | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">J.MP</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">J.MP</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| input = | | title = 9J MP | ||
| input = 9J.MP | |||
| images = | | images = | ||
{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_J_MP|caption=}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_J_MP|caption=}} | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">J.LK</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">J.LK</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| input = | | title = 9J LK | ||
| input = 9J.LK | |||
| images = | | images = | ||
{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_J_LK|caption=}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_J_LK|caption=}} | ||
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{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_J_LK|2|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_J_LK|2|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | ||
| info = | | info = | ||
Often used in chain to facilitate the air carry potential. This move's bizarre hurtbox carries with it a few interesting properties. It can prevent Lilith from jumping over the opponent, due to her throwbox extending so far to the ground. It is also particularly good at beating blockable Guard Cancels against your jump ins. | |||
{{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_J_LK}} | {{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_J_LK}} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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=====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">J.HK</font>===== | =====<font style="visibility:hidden; float:right">J.HK</font>===== | ||
{{MoveDataCargo | {{MoveDataCargo | ||
| input = | | title = 9J HK | ||
| input = 9J.HK | |||
| images = | | images = | ||
{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_J_HK|caption=}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_J_HK|caption=}} | ||
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{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_214KK|2|caption=Es|hitbox=yes}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_214KK|2|caption=Es|hitbox=yes}} | ||
| info = | | info = | ||
A | A quick Tatsu-style move that is highly unsafe and whiffs on crouchers from most distances, making it highly situational if not useless. It can start Dark Force juggle combos in the corner, or be used as a meterless punish/confirm on standing opponents for a knockdown where Shining Blade wouldn't reach. Overall, though, it's not very recommended to use over other options. The first active frame is on the grounded, so it is air-state unblockable. | ||
{{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_214LK}} | {{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_214LK}} | ||
Short range, fastest startup, best recovery, | Short range, fastest startup, best recovery, but still very easily punishable on block/whiff. | ||
{{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_214MK}} | {{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_214MK}} | ||
Medium range, slower startup, worse recovery. | Medium range, slower startup, worse recovery. | ||
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Far range, slowest startup, worst recovery. | Far range, slowest startup, worst recovery. | ||
{{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_214KK}} | {{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_214KK}} | ||
This version hits four times and has the same startup speed | This version hits four times and has the same startup speed, but better recovery than the HK version. It's also the worst against crouchers, as the multiple hits will whiff and won't even grant a knockdown at point blank range. | ||
}} | }} | ||
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{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_623KK|5|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_623KK|5|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | ||
| info = | | info = | ||
Good range, but slow startup and no invulnerability. Rather than being used as a DP as it may seem, it's instead a situational punish/confirm tool, especially in scenarios where LI is out of range. It do as much damage or more than LI in some confirms, but its strange juggle properties make its damage fairly inconsistent at times. Since the input is also much safer and easier than LI, it's good to buffer from cancelable pokes like 2MK and 5MP. | |||
{{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_623KK}} | {{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_623KK}} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_LP_LP_Towards_LK_HP|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_LP_LP_Towards_LK_HP|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | ||
| info = | | info = | ||
Perhaps Lilith's most defining move, and her highest execution barrier. Being a command super, it breaks traditional canceling restrictions, allowing you to cancel into it from any of her normals, even at the end of chains. Extremely fast startup, combos off just about anything when close enough, gives great oki, and even greater damage—it's even good as a reversal in some situations. Its only real limitation is the input; but once mastered, it makes Lilith's damage off of almost everything skyrocket. Since it drags opponents in on hit, it can even catch extended hurtboxes as a punish or callout. One highly useful tidbit about the input is that you can use a down-forward instead of just forward, making confirms from crouch more natural feeling. | |||
{{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_LP_LP_Towards_LK_HP}} | {{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_LP_LP_Towards_LK_HP}} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_J_LP_LP_Towards_LK_HP|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_J_LP_LP_Towards_LK_HP|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | ||
| info = | | info = | ||
The | The air version of Luminous Illusion sadly cannot be comboed into consistently, but it can be used after blocking an opponent's air-to-air in an attempt to interrupt their string. Other than that, it's just a very unusual callout tool. | ||
{{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_J_LP_LP_Towards_LK_HP}} | {{AttackDataCargo-VSAV/Query|LI_J_LP_LP_Towards_LK_HP}} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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{{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_412[6]KK|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | {{MoveDataCargoImage|LI_412[6]KK|caption=|hitbox=yes}} | ||
| info = | | info = | ||
One of the few supers in the game that costs two stocks. Damage is dependent on how well the Lilith player inputs the dance sequence. You can first use Lilith's Mimic Doll Dark Force then do the Puppet Show, since the doll will mimic the hat toss it can catch people unaware by the 2nd projectile. | One of the few supers in the game that costs two stocks. Slow, unsafe, and no invulnerability, only usable in combos with very specific Dark Force routes. Damage is dependent on how well the Lilith player inputs the dance sequence. You can first use Lilith's Mimic Doll Dark Force then do the Puppet Show, since the doll will mimic the hat toss it can catch people unaware by the 2nd projectile. The game counts this super as a projectile, meaning it cannot be executed while a Soul Flash is still on-screen. | ||
Dances probabilities: | Dances probabilities: | ||
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''' Illusion Attack: Mindless Doll - Same strength P + K:''' | ''' Illusion Attack: Mindless Doll - Same strength P + K:''' | ||
: Both of Lilith's Dark Forces | : Both of Lilith's Dark Forces have fairly situational use. | ||
* '''Mimic Doll (Light/Medium Version):''' | * '''Mimic Doll (Light/Medium Version):''' An intangible copy image follows behind Lilith and mimics everything she does, with a delay. The doll can't be hit, but it will perform every action Lilith does exactly as she does it, which includes throwing fireballs and even her Puppet Show projectile. Unfortunately it's not possible to set up unblockables with this move because the doll doesn't retain overhead properties on jumping attacks. It is, however, possible to launch some pretty beefy pressure and perform custom-combo style juggles in the corner.<br>The copy has no juggle restrictions, meaning you can whiff a move at the right time so that an opponent falls into the copy's attempt at the move and it will connect. Most useful, however, is juggling your Soul Flash into the copy's Soul Flash repeatedly until Dark Force ends, leading to very damaging combos. If your copy's Luminous Illusion hits the opponent as they are falling, it curiously puts them into an idle standing position, allowing you to instantly reset into a mixup of your choosing. | ||
* '''Mirror Doll (Heavy Version):''' | * '''Mirror Doll (Heavy Version):''' An intangible copy image teleports behind the opponent and "mirrors" everything Lilith does, without any delay. The doll will keep the same distance from the opponent as Lilith's real body in the opposite direction, essentially making the opponent act as a mirror. Since the opponent is being hit from both sides equally, Lilith's moves will have no pushback, enabling some unique combos, especially midscreen. If the distance causes the Mirror Doll to be off-screen, it will effectively despawn until it's onscreen again, meaning it cannot act as a way to hit the opponent from full screen away. | ||
Though '''Mimic Doll''' is a more useful Dark Force in general as its reward with proper setup can be huge, '''Mirror Doll''' can be potentially useful midscreen if you wish to do strike/throw pressure or confirm a full chain into Luminous Illusion without having to worry about pushback. For either version, you can use a Soul Flash before it deactivates to provide cover and avoid being punished. | |||
==Colors== | ==Colors== | ||
[[File:colors-lilith. | [[File:colors-lilith.png]] | ||
== Notable Players == | == Notable Players == | ||
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|Beistraxis | |Beistraxis | ||
|べいちゃん | |べいちゃん | ||
|style="text-align:center;"| | |style="text-align:center;"| HK [[file:lilith_color_hk_small.png]] | ||
|Germany | |Germany | ||
|https://twitter.com/Nanoqoun | |https://twitter.com/Nanoqoun | ||
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|Hungary | |Hungary | ||
|https://twitter.com/ | |https://twitter.com/cocoayippie | ||
|Tourney organizer and commentator. Addicted to doing Gloomy Puppet Show. | |Tourney organizer and commentator. Addicted to doing Gloomy Puppet Show. | ||
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Latest revision as of 00:53, 8 June 2024
Introduction
Lilith (リリス), the mobile Succubus.
At birth, Belial feared that Morrigan was too powerful for her own good and split her soul into three parts. He knew that in time she would come to be able to control her great power, and so sealed a portion of this power within himself, and hid the remainder inside a pocket dimension. Unbeknownst to him, this piece would develop a consciousness of its own. Jedah would discover this unfulfilled soul, and fashion it a body in order to lure Morrigan into his Majigen. Thus was the creation of Lilith, a "sister" succubus. With the reunion of the two, they combine into the powerful entity destined to rule Makai.
Lilith has a speedy ground game with big burst damage. At the highest level of play, she has to embrace a strong sense of game mechanics to overcome her mid to low tier placement.
Gameplay
Primary Objectives:
- Pressure the opponent with dashing frame traps and Soul Flash
- Abuse her throw/5HP option select
- Convert stray hits into links and Luminous Illusion for big damage and okizeme
Strengths | Weaknesses |
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Movement
Walk: Like Morrigan, Lilith has above average walkspeed.
Dash: A ground-based dash. Good speed, cancelable very early into a quickstop by pressing 4 out of a forward dash or 6 out of a back dash. Attacking during a dash will result in a while-dashing attack. All of Lilith's dashing attacks will gain an extra frame of advantage (additional +1 to all dash buttons) as well as a frame less start up. The dashing attacks maintain some momentum, so Lilith will continue to slide a bit. This dash is core to Lilith's gameplan, pressure, punishes, and more—be sure to use it!
Jump: Average jump height and arc. Average startup speed and movement speed. Added cancellable landing recovery pose.
Super Jump: A much higher jump than her standard jump, and also more startup. Lilith will automatically turn around if she crosses over the opponent, allowing her to attack towards the opponent. Aside from the auto turn and jump arc it is identical in all other regards. This move is accompanied by a voice sample and a trail of graphical sparkles. Fairly useful movement option, though not something to be spammed recklessly if not tiger-kneeing into Soul Flash.
Normal Moves
Standing Normals
5LP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
5 | 3 | 7 | 6 | 5 | H: 9 G: 8 |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | yes | - | 6 | 3 | H: 6 G: 3 W: 0 |
5MP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
8 | 3 | 17 | 4 | 3 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | yes | - | 15 | 6 | H: 15 G: 9 W: 3 |
5HP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
9 | 4 | 26 | -1 | -2 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | - | 19 | 6 | H: 24 G: 15 W: 6 |
5LK
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
6 | 3 | 8 | 5 | 4 | H: 8 G: 7 |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | yes | - | 7 | 4 | H: 6 G: 3 W: 0 |
5MK
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
6 | 3 | 16 | 2 | 1 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | - | 15 | 6 | H: 15 G: 9 W: 3 |
5HK
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
20 | 3,2 | 30 | -5 | -6 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | - | 7+19 | 2+8 | H: 15+9 G: 10+4 W: 6 |
Close Normals
CL.5LP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
5 | 3 | 7 | 6 | 5 | H: 9 G: 8 |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | yes | - | 7 | 3 | H: 6 G: 3 W: 0 |
CL.5MP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
6 | 4 | 22 | -5 | -6 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | yes | - | 16 | 6 | H: 15 G: 9 W: 3 |
CL.5HP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
9 | 3 | 22 | 3 | 2 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | - | 20 | 7 | H: 24 G: 15 W: 6 |
CL.5LK
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
6 | 3 | 10 | 3 | 2 | H: 6 G: 5 |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | yes | - | 7 | 4 | H: 6 G: 3 W: 0 |
CL.5HK
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
8 | 3,3,3,3 | 27 | -5 | -6 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | - | 6x4 | 2x4 | H: 11+5x3 G: 8+2x3 W: 6 |
Crouching Normals
2LP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
4 | 3 | 8 | 8 | 7 | H: 11 G: 10 |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | yes | - | 6 | 3 | H: 6 G: 3 W: 0 |
2MP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
6 | 3 | 18 | 3 | 2 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | yes | - | 15 | 6 | H: 15 G: 9 W: 3 |
2HP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
9 | 3 | 24 | -2 | -3 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | - | 20 | 8 | H: 24 G: 15 W: 6 |
2LK
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
4 | 3 | 10 | 6 | 5 | H: 9 G: 8 |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
low | yes | - | 5 | 2 | H: 6 G: 3 W: 0 |
2MK
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
4 | 3 | 24 | -2 | -3 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
low | yes | - | 15 | 6 | H: 15 G: 9 W: 3 |
2HK
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
14 | 8 | 27 | - | -20 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
low | no | - | 18 | 8 | H: 24 G: 15 W: 6 |
Jumping Normals
8J.LP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
5 | 6 | 5 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
overhead | yes | - | 8 | 4 | H: 6 G: 3 W: 0 |
8J.MP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
6 | 3 | 12 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
overhead | yes | - | 17 | 7 | H: 15 G: 9 W: 3 |
8J.HP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
7 | 9 | 7 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
overhead | no | - | 20 | 8 | H: 24 G: 15 W: 6 |
8J.LK
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
6 | 7 | 7 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
overhead | yes | - | 5 | 2 | H: 6 G: 3 W: 0 |
8J.MK
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
6 | 7 | 7 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
overhead | yes | - | 15 | 6 | H: 15 G: 9 W: 3 |
8J.HK
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
8 | 6 | 9 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
overhead | no | - | 20,18 | 7,7 | H: 24 G: 15 W: 6 |
Diagonal Jumping Normal
J.MP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
6 | 3 | 12 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
overhead | yes | - | 16 | 6 | H: 15 G: 9 W: 3 |
J.LK
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
6 | 7 | 7 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
overhead | yes | - | 8 | 4 | H: 6 G: 3 W: 0 |
J.HK
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
10 | 10 | 10 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
overhead | no | - | 20,18 | 7,7 | H: 24 G: 15 W: 6 |
Normal Throws
6MP or 6HP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | - | 93 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
throw | no | 1-92 whole body | 19 (6) | 9 (3) | H: 9 G: 0 W: 0 |
J.6P or J.4P
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | - | 81 + 1 + landing 1 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
throw | no | 1-81 whole body | 22 (22) | 7 (7) | H: 9 G: 0 W: 0 |
Special Moves
Soul Flash
236P
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
13 | 49 | 33 | 2 | -8 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | - | 18 | 6 | H: 21 G: 16 W: 12 |
Slowest moving option. It's very good mid range as it provides a bit of a shield which Lilith can use to discourage jump-ins and also to set up a wall that she can move forward behind, allowing her to push her way towards the opponent by force.
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
13 | 17 | 33 | 2 | -8 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | - | 18 | 6 | H: 21 G: 16 W: 12 |
Moves faster, 13 active frames. Range becomes +2/-8 to +15/+5. Pretty good if spaced perfectly or timed perfectly on a meaty.
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
13 | 9 | 33 | 2 | -8 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | - | 18 | 6 | H: 21 G: 16 W: 12 |
Moves extremely fast, 6 active frames. Range becomes +2/-8 to +8/-2. Mostly useful to combo from max range.
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
20 | 81 | 35 | 9 | -1 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | - | 11x3 | 4x3 | H: 0 G: 0 W: 0 |
Moves at medium speed and travels furthest with 60 active frames. It hits three times. A high damage zurashi tool in the corner that enables link on hit. try 2MK or 66LK depending on spacing
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
12 | 49 | variable + landing 1 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | - | 18 | 6 | H: 21 G: 16 W: 12 |
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
12 | 17 | variable + landing 1 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | - | 18 | 6 | H: 21 G: 16 W: 12 |
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
12 | 9 | variable + landing 1 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | - | 18 | 6 | H: 21 G: 16 W: 12 |
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
19 | 81 | variable + landing 1 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | - | 11x3 | 4x3 | H: 0 G: 0 W: 0 |
Shining Blade
623P
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
7 | 15 | 24 + landing 4 | - | -19 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | 1-7 whole body, 8-9 not head | 23,16 | 6,5 | H: 31 G: 26 W: 22 |
Short uppercut.
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
7 | 19 | 22 + landing 4 | - | -21 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | 1-7 whole body, 8-9 not head | 25,17 | 7,5 | H: 31 G: 26 W: 22 |
Medium uppercut.
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
7 | 21 | 24 + landing 4 | - | -25 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | 1-7 whole body, 8-9 not head | 27,18 | 8,5 | H: 31 G: 26 W: 22 |
Far/high uppercut.
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
5 | 12(14)14(15)15 | 41 + landing 4 | - | -36 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | 1-10 whole body | (28,17)+(23,12)+(20,10) | (11,6)+(9,4)+(8,3) | H: 0 G: 0 W: 0 |
Guard Cancel
623P
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
7 | 15 | 24 + landing 4 | - | -19 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | 1-7 whole body, 8-9 not head | 11,7 | 3,2 | H: 31 G: 26 W: 22 |
Go-to GC option
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
7 | 19 | 22 + landing 4 | - | -21 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | 1-7 whole body, 8-9 not head | 12,8 | 3,2 | H: 31 G: 26 W: 22 |
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
7 | 21 | 24 + landing 4 | - | -25 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | 1-7 whole body, 8-9 not head | 13,8 | 4,2 | H: 31 G: 26 W: 22 |
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
5 | 12(14)14(15)15 | 41 + landing 4 | - | -36 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | 1-10 whole body | (13,8)+(11,6)+(10,4) | (5,3)+(4,2)+(4,1) | H: 0 G: 0 W: 0 |
Merry Turn
214K
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
4 | 15 | 18 + landing 10 | - | -19 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | 2-6 feet | 22 | 6 | H: 24 G: 21 W: 18 |
Short range, fastest startup, best recovery, but still very easily punishable on block/whiff.
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
5 | 18 | 21 + landing 10 | - | -25 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | 3-7 feet | 24 | 7 | H: 24 G: 21 W: 18 |
Medium range, slower startup, worse recovery.
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
6 | 21 | 23 + landing 10 | - | -30 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | 4-8 feet | 26 | 8 | H: 24 G: 21 W: 18 |
Far range, slowest startup, worst recovery.
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
6 | 5,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 | 23 + landing 10 | - | -28 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | 2-6 feet | 20,7x3~4 | 6,6x3~4 | H: 0 G: 0 W: 0 |
Pursuits
8P/K or 8KK/PP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
34 | 1 | landing 1 + turning 1 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | - | - | 7 | 7 | H: 24 G: 0 W: 6 |
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
34 | 1 | landing 1 + turning 2 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | - | - | 4x3 | 4x3 | H: 0 G: 0 W: 0 |
Command Throws
632[4]P
(LP Version): Short hop. Best version to cancel into at point blank. (MP Version): Medium hop. Can be used off far cancelable normals at max range. (HP Version): Long hop. Not particularly useful.
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
38 | 1 | 29 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
throw | no | 13 airborne | 27 | 7 | H: 18 G: 0 W: 12 |
632[4]PP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
38 | 1 | 29 | - | - | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
throw | no | 13 airborne | 29 | 8 | H: 0 G: 0 W: 0 |
Ex Moves
623KK
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
16 | 6,4,4,4,4,4,4,4,4,1 | 46 + landing 10 | - | -61 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | 1-50 throw, 10-12 feet | (15,6)+6x8 | (5,2)+2x8 | H: 0 G: 0 W: 0 |
LP,LP,Towards,LK,HP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
4 | 20 | 1 + landing 1 | - | -23 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | 1 whole body | 4+1x18+12+12 | 2+0x18+5+5 | H: 0 G: 0 W: 0 |
J.LP,LP,Towards,LK,HP
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
2 | 20 | 1 + landing 1 | - | -23 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | 1 whole body | 4+1x18+12+12 | 2+0x18+5+5 | H: 0 G: 0 W: 0 |
412[6]KK
Dances probabilities:
Dance #1 = 10/32 odds Dance #2 = 9/32 odds Dance #3 = 10/32 odds Dance #4 = 1/32 odds Dance #5 = 1/32 odds Dance #6 = 1/32 odds This one uses MK & HK buttons
https://kakuge.com/wiki/pages/%E3%82%B0%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9F%E3%83%BC%E3%83%91%E3%83%9A%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%82%A6: http://www.temptation.tk/vampire/SAVIOR/lilith/page1.htm
Startup | Active | Recovery | Hit Adv. | Block Adv. | Renda Bonus |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
25 | 43 | 91 | - | -32 | N/A |
Guard | Cancel | Invuln | Red Damage | White Damage | Gauge |
mid | no | - | 4+20 | 2+6 | H: 0 G: 0 W: 0 |
Dark Force
Illusion Attack: Mindless Doll - Same strength P + K:
- Both of Lilith's Dark Forces have fairly situational use.
- Mimic Doll (Light/Medium Version): An intangible copy image follows behind Lilith and mimics everything she does, with a delay. The doll can't be hit, but it will perform every action Lilith does exactly as she does it, which includes throwing fireballs and even her Puppet Show projectile. Unfortunately it's not possible to set up unblockables with this move because the doll doesn't retain overhead properties on jumping attacks. It is, however, possible to launch some pretty beefy pressure and perform custom-combo style juggles in the corner.
The copy has no juggle restrictions, meaning you can whiff a move at the right time so that an opponent falls into the copy's attempt at the move and it will connect. Most useful, however, is juggling your Soul Flash into the copy's Soul Flash repeatedly until Dark Force ends, leading to very damaging combos. If your copy's Luminous Illusion hits the opponent as they are falling, it curiously puts them into an idle standing position, allowing you to instantly reset into a mixup of your choosing. - Mirror Doll (Heavy Version): An intangible copy image teleports behind the opponent and "mirrors" everything Lilith does, without any delay. The doll will keep the same distance from the opponent as Lilith's real body in the opposite direction, essentially making the opponent act as a mirror. Since the opponent is being hit from both sides equally, Lilith's moves will have no pushback, enabling some unique combos, especially midscreen. If the distance causes the Mirror Doll to be off-screen, it will effectively despawn until it's onscreen again, meaning it cannot act as a way to hit the opponent from full screen away.
Though Mimic Doll is a more useful Dark Force in general as its reward with proper setup can be huge, Mirror Doll can be potentially useful midscreen if you wish to do strike/throw pressure or confirm a full chain into Luminous Illusion without having to worry about pushback. For either version, you can use a Soul Flash before it deactivates to provide cover and avoid being punished.
Colors
Notable Players
Japan
Japanese Player Index: http://www21.atwiki.jp/vsplayer/pages/21.html
Name (English) | Name (Japanese) | Color | Location | Contact | Notes |
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Kaji | — | HP ![]() |
Kanto region | http://twitter.com/drastic_oval | Arguably the best VSav player in the game's history. |
Take | たけ | PP ![]() |
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Kim | きむ | HK ![]() |
Kanto region | http://twitter.com/kimlilith https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-uHm_O2iyWmJkQ4sRValpA |
Arcade DIY and American BBQ enthusiast. Runs regular events for VSAV and VSAV2. |
Yamamoto | 山本 | MP ![]() |
Kanto region | http://twitter.com/vineyard000 | |
Lily | リリィ | KK ![]() |
Kanto region | https://twitter.com/ririrililith https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuHXlxLQPpUTHiZ0FtcdxkQ |
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Mano | まの | LP ![]() |
Chugoku region | https://twitter.com/manoth5 https://www.twitch.tv/fantasistaokayama |
Arcade clerk and Fantasista Okayama regular. Gamest Cup Women's champion. Longtime partner of BOW (AU). |
North America
Name (English) | Name (Japanese) | Color | Location | Contact | Notes |
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Diar | ダイアー | PP ![]() |
California, USA | https://twitter.com/VsavDiar | Highly talented and respected player with outstanding results. Nicknamed "AmeriKaji" for his outstanding execution. Also races cars in his spare time. |
South America
Name (English) | Name (Japanese) | Color | Location | Contact | Notes |
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The Seeker | シーカー | KK ![]() |
Brazil | https://twitter.com/ISW_TheSeeker | Commentates on NekoPunchi's streams, also known for his strong Morrigan. |
Europe
Name (English) | Name (Japanese) | Color | Location | Contact | Notes |
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Beistraxis | べいちゃん | HK ![]() |
Germany | https://twitter.com/Nanoqoun | The Vsav Sith, Beistraxis Darkforce!!! |
Cocoa | ココア | LP ![]() |
Hungary | https://twitter.com/cocoayippie | Tourney organizer and commentator. Addicted to doing Gloomy Puppet Show. |