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{{SG Character Subnav|char=Eliza|short=eli|sub=1}} | |||
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==Assist Strategies== | |||
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Eliza can benefit well from any type of assist, but there are four main areas of weakness that she likes having patched up by her assists. | Eliza can benefit well from any type of assist, but there are four main areas of weakness that she likes having patched up by her assists. | ||
*'''Opening Up Upbackers''': Eliza's constant overhead pressure is one of her biggest strengths, which leads many opponents to hold upback to escape her pressure. A [[Skullgirls/Team_Building#Low_assists|low assist]] or anti-air grab assist can be great to punish them for doing this or prevent them from doing it in the first place. | *'''Opening Up Upbackers''': Eliza's constant overhead pressure is one of her biggest strengths, which leads many opponents to hold upback to escape her pressure. A [[Skullgirls/Team_Building#Low_assists|low assist]] or anti-air grab assist can be great to punish them for doing this or prevent them from doing it in the first place. | ||
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**Examples: L Beat Extend (Big Band), H Updo (Filia), L Bomber (Double), Napalm Pillar (Parasoul), H Lock N Load (Cerebella), H Brass (Big Band), H Hurting Hurl (Beowulf) | **Examples: L Beat Extend (Big Band), H Updo (Filia), L Bomber (Double), Napalm Pillar (Parasoul), H Lock N Load (Cerebella), H Brass (Big Band), H Hurting Hurl (Beowulf) | ||
==DHCs== | |||
* Lady of Slaughter can be tricky to DHC from efficiently. Some supers that work well are; SBO (Squigly), Hatred Install (Painwheel), Lenny followed by Argus (Peacock), Magnetic Trap (Robo), Airwulf (Beowulf) | * Lady of Slaughter can be tricky to DHC from efficiently. Some supers that work well are; SBO (Squigly), Hatred Install (Painwheel), Lenny followed by Argus (Peacock), Magnetic Trap (Robo), Airwulf (Beowulf) | ||
* For some teams Nekhbet Breaker will do slightly less damage up front, but allow for a more efficient DHC | * For some teams Nekhbet Breaker will do slightly less damage up front, but allow for a more efficient DHC | ||
* When you DHC into Eliza, Khepri Sun allows for a follow up combo if you keep OTG available. | * When you DHC into Eliza, Khepri Sun allows for a follow up combo if you keep OTG available. | ||
==Tagging== | |||
* Eliza's tag-in gives her teammates more chances to safely tag-out since Eliza's tag-in is easy to combo into | * Eliza's tag-in gives her teammates more chances to safely tag-out since Eliza's tag-in is easy to combo into | ||
* Eliza's tag-in is like her 236MK but with much faster start-up so it's a good anti-air move but very punishable on block | * Eliza's tag-in is like her 236MK but with much faster start-up so it's a good anti-air move but very punishable on block | ||
* She can tag-out and let her teammates tag-in safely with a combo into the sliding knockdown of 5HKx2 but you need to not use OTG beforehand | * She can tag-out and let her teammates tag-in safely with a combo into the sliding knockdown of 5HKx2 but you need to not use OTG beforehand | ||
== | ==Assist Combos== | ||
* | ===L Bomber=== | ||
* | The invincibility helps Eliza's horrible defense and the 2 hits on block can give enough time for Eliza to start her airdash pressure. | ||
{{ComboHeader-SG}} | |||
{{Combo-SG | |||
| notation= | |||
:2LK 2MP HPx3 + Assist 236LK | |||
:HPx3 623LPx3 | |||
:jHK ADC Whiff Throw | |||
:2HK 623LPx3 | |||
:6239MK | |||
:LK MKx2 HPx3 623LPx3 sjc | |||
:j236KK | |||
| damage=8245 | |||
| meter=1 | |||
| location=Corner | |||
| charspecific= | |||
| description= | |||
*Advanced | |||
*DHC to Double's lvl 3 to kill in 2v3 ratio | |||
| video=[https://youtu.be/amR5GTR1d9I (video)] | |||
|}} | |||
|} | |||
===H Brass=== | |||
{{ComboHeader-SG}} | |||
{{Combo-SG | |||
| notation= | |||
:sj 9HP jHK ABDC throw fastfall | |||
:call brass 2HK 236LK | |||
:623MP~HP jump cancel 2369MK | |||
:5HPx3 623HP | |||
:jLP slight delay jMP delay jMK | |||
:2MK 5HPx3 623LPx3 | |||
:delay jLK jMP | |||
:5LP x3 5MKx2 5HPx3 214LK | |||
:5LK 5MKx2 5HPx3 214HK 236PP | |||
| damage=11579 | |||
| meter=1 | |||
| location=Corner | |||
| charspecific=Universal | |||
| description= | |||
*Advanced | |||
*Burst punishcombo | |||
* Airdashing for the jLK jMP string makes restanding easy and stable regardless of weight. | |||
| video=[https://youtu.be/SJyiHbyatAk (video)] | |||
|}} | |||
{{Combo-SG | |||
| notation= | |||
:sjHP jHK | |||
:A(B)DC throw | |||
:Assist + 2HK Throne | |||
:Axe | |||
:jMH Recall | |||
:L Khat jump cancel Horus | |||
:5HP x3 Butchers Axe Recall | |||
:5MK x2 5HP x3 Kopesh Butchers Axe Recall | |||
:L Spiral | |||
:5LK 5MKx2 5HPx3 214HK 236PP | |||
| damage=12876 | |||
| meter=1 | |||
| location=Corner | |||
| charspecific=Universal | |||
| description= | |||
*Advanced | |||
*Burst punish combo | |||
*Time the throne call to when brass hits for consistency. | |||
| video=[https://youtu.be/xpxf3OBwjXo (video)] | |||
|}} | |||
|} | |||
===H A-Train=== | |||
A-train gives Eliza a tool again upbackers, as well as providing large boosts in damage and metergain. | |||
{{ComboHeader-SG}} | |||
{{Combo-SG | |||
| notation= | |||
:2LK 2MP 5HP(x3) assist~623HP | |||
:dash 5MP Horus | |||
:2HK H Khat | |||
:jMK ADC jLK jMP | |||
:5LP(x3) 5MK(x2) 5HP(x3) L Spiral | |||
:5LK 2MK 5HP(x3) H Spiral 236PP | |||
| damage=8698~ | |||
| meter=1 | |||
| location=Anywhere | |||
| charspecific=Universal | |||
| description= | |||
*Beginner Universal Route | |||
| video=[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LvSX__WooM (video)] | |||
|}} | |||
{{Combo-SG | |||
| notation= | |||
:2LK 2MP 5HP(x3) assist~623HP | |||
:OTG 2HK 623HP | |||
:jMP delay jHP | |||
:ADC jLK jMP jHP | |||
:2MK 5HP(x3) 214LK | |||
:5LP(x3) 5MK(x2) 5HP(x3) 214HK 236PP | |||
| damage=8746 | |||
| meter=1 | |||
| location=Midscreen | |||
| charspecific=Universal | |||
| description= | |||
*Standard midscreen route | |||
| video=[https://youtu.be/h24TR6o53kE (video)] | |||
|}} | |||
{{Combo-SG | |||
| notation= | |||
:2LK 2MP 5HP(x3) assist~623HP | |||
:dashjump Sek jM Sek H Return | |||
:OTG 2HK 623HP | |||
:jc 236MK | |||
:dash 5MK(x2) 5HP(x3) Sek L(x3) Sek M Sek H Return | |||
:5LP(x3) 5MK(x2) 5HP(x3) 214HK 236PP | |||
| damage=9684 | |||
| meter=1 | |||
| location=Near corner | |||
| charspecific=Universal (no Eliza & Parasoul?) | |||
| description= | |||
*Advanced | |||
*Works at roundstart position | |||
| video=[https://youtu.be/mYq6k_z_iaw (video)] | |||
|}} | |||
{{Combo-SG | |||
| notation= | |||
:2LK 2MP 5HP(x3) 623MP~HP+assist | |||
:jc 623LP~P~P(whiff) | |||
:OTG 2HK 623LP~P~P | |||
:jc 236MK | |||
:5HPx3 623LP~P~P | |||
:dl jLP dl jLK | |||
:5LP(x3) 5MK(x2) 5HP(x3) 213LK | |||
:5LK 5MK(x2) 5HP(x3) 214HK 236PP | |||
| damage=9402 | |||
| meter=1 | |||
| location=Corner | |||
| charspecific=Universal | |||
| description= | |||
*Standard corner route | |||
*To do the jLP jLK restand on heavies, jumpback and delay airdash before the jLP | |||
| video=[https://youtu.be/iFVTZoJFg3I (video)] | |||
|}} | |||
{{Combo-SG | |||
| notation= | |||
:2LK 2MP 5HP(x3) 623MP~HP+assist | |||
:jc 623LP~MP~HP(whiff) | |||
:OTG 2HK 623LP~MP~HP | |||
:jc 236MK | |||
:5HP(x3) Sek M Sek H | |||
:Sek L(x3) Sek M Sek H Return | |||
:214LK | |||
:5LP(x3) 5MK(x2) 5HP(x3) 214HK 236PP | |||
| damage=10041 | |||
| meter=1 | |||
| location=Corner | |||
| charspecific=Universal | |||
| description= | |||
*Corner route using Sekhmet | |||
| video=[https://youtu.be/SWQQkVKttNY (video)] | |||
|}} | |||
{{Combo-SG | |||
| notation= | |||
:CH 5HPx3 623MP~HP+assist | |||
:jc 623LP~MP(whiff) | |||
:TK Sek jM Sek H Return | |||
:OTG 2HK 623LP~P~P | |||
:jc 236MK | |||
:5HP(x3) Sek M Sek H | |||
:Sek L(x3) Sek M Sek H Return | |||
:5MK(x2) 5HP(x3) 214LK | |||
:5LP(x3) 5MK(x2) 5HP(x3) 214HK 236PP | |||
| damage=11347 | |||
| meter=1 | |||
| location=Corner | |||
| charspecific=Universal | |||
| description= | |||
*Advanced | |||
*Heavy counter hit route using Sekhmet | |||
| video=[https://youtu.be/foyFvTQw4d0 (video)] | |||
|}} | |||
{{Combo-SG | |||
| notation= | |||
:CH sjHP JHK | |||
:BADC Throw | |||
:Sweep + Assist M Khat | |||
:Axe Recall | |||
:M Khat jump cancel Horus | |||
:Air Axe 5H Recall | |||
:5HP x3 Butchers Axe Recall | |||
:5MK x2 5HP x3 Kopesh Butchers Axe Recall | |||
:L Spiral | |||
:5LP x3 5MK x2 5HP x3 H Spiral LoS | |||
| damage=12800 | |||
| meter=1 | |||
| location=Corner | |||
| charspecific=Universal | |||
| description= | |||
*Advanced | |||
*Burst punish route with Sekhmet | |||
*Is meter neutral (practically) as build the bar you'll spend on super | |||
*Clean 12.8k, but you get 25 more damage for doing L Khat after the first Axe>Recall. | |||
| video=[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajspwOcp0lg (video)] | |||
|}} | |||
{{Combo-SG | |||
| notation= | |||
:CH sjHP JHK | |||
:BADC Throw | |||
:Sweep + Assist M Khat jump cancel Kopesh (whiff) | |||
:Axe | |||
:Air Axe Axe Recall | |||
:L Khat jump cancel Horus | |||
:5HP x3 Butchers Axe Recall | |||
:5MK x2 5HP x3 Kopesh Butchers Axe Recall | |||
:L Spiral | |||
:5LP x3 5MK x2 5HP x3 H Spiral LoS | |||
| damage=12903 | |||
| meter=1 | |||
| location=Corner | |||
| charspecific=Universal | |||
| description= | |||
*Advanced | |||
*Burst punish route with Sekhmet | |||
*Is meter neutral (practically) as build the bar you'll spend on super | |||
*Optimal version of previous combo, if you can get the Axe timing down. | |||
| video=[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeJkH3jrJHo (video)] | |||
|}} | |||
|} | |||
===Napalm Pillar=== | |||
The tall hitbox of the pillar helps Eliza with the big weakness of her dp, low hitbox. | |||
{{ComboHeader-SG}} | |||
{{Combo-SG | |||
| notation= | |||
:2LK 2MP HK Assist HK 236LK | |||
:dash 2MK 5HPx3 623HP | |||
:jMP ADC jLK jMP | |||
:2LPx2 2MK 5HPx3 623HP 2369MK | |||
: dash 5LK 5MKx2 5HPx3 214HK | |||
: 236PP | |||
| damage=8225 | |||
| meter=1 | |||
| location=anywhere | |||
| charspecific= | |||
| description= | |||
*Advanced jump cancel, you can change it for 214LK 5LK for an easier rute. | |||
*Fancy but not a good combo. | |||
| video=[https://youtu.be/22xfD71DohI] | |||
|}} | |||
|} | |||
==Assist Resets== | |||
==Two Touch Sequences== | |||
==External Links== | ==External Links== |
Latest revision as of 19:46, 22 July 2023
Assist Strategies
Eliza can benefit well from any type of assist, but there are four main areas of weakness that she likes having patched up by her assists.
- Opening Up Upbackers: Eliza's constant overhead pressure is one of her biggest strengths, which leads many opponents to hold upback to escape her pressure. A low assist or anti-air grab assist can be great to punish them for doing this or prevent them from doing it in the first place.
- Examples: H A-Train (Big Band), Cilia Clide (Double), L Hurting Hurl (Beowulf), 2HP (Squigly), Excellabella (Cerebella)
- Lockdown: A good lockdown assist can allow Eliza to transition her pokes into pressure, or improve the risk/reward of her lows.
- Examples: Cerecopter (Cerebella), H Drill (Fukua), L Bomber (Double), 5HP (Robo), 2HP(Squigly)
- Neutral: Eliza can sometimes struggle to get in and start her pressure, so she likes having a long-range assist that's hard to contest to allow her to close the gap while it dominates neutral.
- Examples: H Lock N Load (Cerebella), H Beam (Robo), H Brass (Big Band), H Bomber (Double), L George (Peacock), L Shot (Parasoul), H Hurting Hurl (Beowulf)
- Defense: With her only <3 meter defensive tool being vulnerable to throws, Eliza can struggle when she gets hit. Invulnerable or armored assists can really help her out in that regard.
- Examples: L Beat Extend (Big Band), H Updo (Filia), L Bomber (Double), Napalm Pillar (Parasoul), H Lock N Load (Cerebella), H Brass (Big Band), H Hurting Hurl (Beowulf)
DHCs
- Lady of Slaughter can be tricky to DHC from efficiently. Some supers that work well are; SBO (Squigly), Hatred Install (Painwheel), Lenny followed by Argus (Peacock), Magnetic Trap (Robo), Airwulf (Beowulf)
- For some teams Nekhbet Breaker will do slightly less damage up front, but allow for a more efficient DHC
- When you DHC into Eliza, Khepri Sun allows for a follow up combo if you keep OTG available.
Tagging
- Eliza's tag-in gives her teammates more chances to safely tag-out since Eliza's tag-in is easy to combo into
- Eliza's tag-in is like her 236MK but with much faster start-up so it's a good anti-air move but very punishable on block
- She can tag-out and let her teammates tag-in safely with a combo into the sliding knockdown of 5HKx2 but you need to not use OTG beforehand
Assist Combos
L Bomber
The invincibility helps Eliza's horrible defense and the 2 hits on block can give enough time for Eliza to start her airdash pressure.
Notation | Damage | Meter Cost | Location | Character Specific? | Notes | Video |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|
8245 |
1 |
Corner |
|
H Brass
Notation | Damage | Meter Cost | Location | Character Specific? | Notes | Video |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|
11579 |
1 |
Corner |
Universal |
|
|
|
12876 |
1 |
Corner |
Universal |
|
H A-Train
A-train gives Eliza a tool again upbackers, as well as providing large boosts in damage and metergain.
Notation | Damage | Meter Cost | Location | Character Specific? | Notes | Video |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|
8698~ |
1 |
Anywhere |
Universal |
|
|
|
8746 |
1 |
Midscreen |
Universal |
|
|
|
9684 |
1 |
Near corner |
Universal (no Eliza & Parasoul?) |
|
|
|
9402 |
1 |
Corner |
Universal |
|
|
|
10041 |
1 |
Corner |
Universal |
|
|
|
11347 |
1 |
Corner |
Universal |
|
|
|
12800 |
1 |
Corner |
Universal |
|
|
|
12903 |
1 |
Corner |
Universal |
|
Napalm Pillar
The tall hitbox of the pillar helps Eliza with the big weakness of her dp, low hitbox.
Notation | Damage | Meter Cost | Location | Character Specific? | Notes | Video |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|
8225 |
1 |
anywhere |
|
Assist Resets
Two Touch Sequences
External Links