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:'''Flight''' = Fly (214K) | |||
:'''Gae Bolga Stinger''' = Nail (236P) | |||
:'''Buer Reaper''' = Buer (236K) | |||
:'''Death Crawl''' = Crawl (236PP) | |||
:'''Buer Thresher''' = Thresher (j236KK) | |||
:'''Hatred Install''' = Install (214KK) | |||
:'''Buer Overdrive''' = Level 3 (214PP) | |||
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== | ==Hit Confirms== | ||
== | ==BnB Combos== | ||
===Beginner=== | |||
A basic ground chain combo ending in sweep | A basic ground chain combo ending in sweep | ||
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2LK 2MK 5HP 236LK 236PP | 2LK 2MK 5HP 236LK 236PP | ||
== | ===Intermediate=== | ||
{{ComboHeader-SG}} | {{ComboHeader-SG}} | ||
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;Ground confirms | ;Ground confirms | ||
*Nothing combos off of max range 2LK other than | *Nothing combos off of max range 2LK other than 236MK, can be hard to hitconfirm. 2MK doesn't reach as far as 2LK so if you are worried about it dropping do 2LK 5HP 236LK instead. | ||
;Throw starter combo: | ;Throw starter combo: | ||
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*jHP is same as above, or j236KK, or 236LK if near the corner. | *jHP is same as above, or j236KK, or 236LK if near the corner. | ||
== | ==Enders== | ||
Your optimal ender string will mostly change depending on screen positioning and whether or not you have OTG available. | |||
All of the following enders are notated starting with 2LP for optimal damage, but keep in mind that 5LP is 4 frames faster and has a more reliable hitbox for the cost of only 25 damage at full scaling. If you're ever worried about dropping the combo, don't hesitate to start your string with 5LP instead. | |||
;Anywhere, no OTG (2045 damage) | |||
2LP 5LK 2MP 5HP 236LK 236PP | |||
;Anywhere, OTG available (2165 damage)* | |||
2LP 5LK 2MP 6HKx4 236LK(OTG) 236PP | |||
;Corner, no OTG (2069 damage) | |||
2LP 5LK 5MK 5HP 236LK 236PP | |||
;Corner, OTG available (2189 damage) | |||
2LP 5LK 5MK 6HKx4 236LK(OTG) 236PP | |||
===Tips=== | ;Corner, meterless ender (1213 damage) | ||
2LP 5LK 2MP 6HKx4 236HK fly j236LK(burstable) | |||
;Anywhere, double thresher ender (2581 damage) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo7nxi55Yn0 (example)] | |||
2LP 5LK 2MP 6HKx4 236HK 236KK fly 236KK | |||
<nowiki>*</nowiki>Some characters can also be hit by 2MP 6HKx4 236LK without OTG, so you can do a bit of extra damage if you can time your 236LK correctly. | |||
Characters it works on: | |||
*Eliza | |||
*Peacock | |||
*Painwheel | |||
*Valentine | |||
*Parasoul | |||
*Double | |||
*Beowulf | |||
*Umbrella | |||
*Annie | |||
*Black Dahlia | |||
==Tips & Tricks== | |||
==Combos By Starter== | |||
''Some videos may show a slightly different combo and/or damage number, due to either old version differences or slight adjustments made by the editor.'' | |||
* [https://www.evernote.com/shard/s548/sh/fbf3f891-39f4-4d92-888d-feb5b861868f/2f553e98ee61ee3c928309097daf21ab Painwheel Combo Evernote by Ralph ] | |||
* [https://youtu.be/O8K7A0Fm5EU 【Skullgirls Encore】おぼえておきたいペインホイール実用コンボ集2【スカルガールズ】] | |||
* [http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm32120029 【Skullgirls Encore+】ペインホイール ヘイトレッドインストールコンボ] | |||
===2LK=== | ===2LK=== | ||
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| notation= | | notation= | ||
:2LK 2MK 2HP 236HK fly | :2LK 2MK 2HP 236HK fly | ||
: | :j236LK | ||
:236LK fly | :OTG 236LK fly | ||
: | :5jLK | ||
:5MP 236HK fly | :5MP 236HK fly | ||
:8jMK | :8jMK | ||
:5MK 236HK fly | :5MK 236HK fly | ||
: | :2jHP | ||
:5LK 236LK fly | :5LK 236LK fly | ||
:3jLP | :3jLP | ||
:2LP 5LK 5MK 5HP 236LK 236PP | :2LP 5LK 5MK 5HP 236LK 236PP | ||
| damage=8, | | damage=8,890 | ||
| meter=1 | |||
| location=Corner | |||
| charspecific=Lights only | |||
| description= | |||
* Lights-only corner combo that has the best damage while being practical | |||
* Doing 6jLK instead of 5jLK will make H Buer after 5MP whiff on some characters | |||
* You can make this combo universal by doing 8jHK instead of 2jHP (8,825 damage) however you need to fastfall between the first 236HK and j236LK. It is also very difficult on heavies | |||
| video=[https://youtu.be/9WPDsDp9WLA (video)] | |||
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{{Combo-SG | |||
| notation= | |||
:2LK 2MK 2HP 236HK fly | |||
:(fastfall) j236LK | |||
:OTG 236LK fly | |||
:6jLK | |||
:5MP | |||
:jMP j236LK fly | |||
:jHK | |||
:5MK 236HK fly | |||
:9jMK jHP | |||
:2LP 5LK 5MK 5HP 236LK 236PP | |||
| damage=8,848 | |||
| meter=1 | | meter=1 | ||
| location=Corner | | location=Corner | ||
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| description= | | description= | ||
* Optimal universal corner combo | * Optimal universal corner combo | ||
* | * Difficult on heavies | ||
* | * Add a slight delay to either jMP or the following j236LK to make jHK plus enough to combo into 5MK. Delaying too much will make you miss a hit of jHK, dealing 45 less damage. | ||
| video=[https://youtu.be/ | | video=[https://youtu.be/EQcZzcuuoEs (video)] | ||
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| description= | | description= | ||
* Optimal corner combo | * Optimal corner combo | ||
* | * It's really hard | ||
| video=[https://youtu.be/bRTBq4-0GKA (video)] | | video=[https://youtu.be/bRTBq4-0GKA (video)] | ||
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| video=[https://youtu.be/55wTmEbhJ5Y?t=1m4s (video)] | | video=[https://youtu.be/55wTmEbhJ5Y?t=1m4s (video)] | ||
|}} | |}} | ||
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===Buer Overdrive=== | |||
{{ComboHeader-SG}} | |||
{{Combo-SG | |||
| notation= | |||
:214 PP | |||
:OTG 5HP 236LK Fly | |||
:6j.LK | |||
:2MK 5HP 236LK Fly | |||
:9j.LP j.LK | |||
:2MP 5HP 236LP dash 5LP 5LK 2MP 5HP 236LK 236 PP | |||
| damage=8,087 | |||
| meter=4 | |||
| location=Anywhere | |||
| charspecific=Universal | |||
| description= * Easy confirm off of reversal Buer Overdrive, omit the 5HP at the start if need be. | |||
* switch 5LP for 2LP for slightly more damage | |||
* do 5MK in place of the last 2MP in the corner for slightly more damage | |||
| video=[https://youtu.be/IgmLvpsC5w4 (video)] | |||
|}} | |||
|} | |||
===Buer Thresher=== | |||
{{ComboHeader-SG}} | |||
{{Combo-SG | |||
| notation= | |||
:j236KK fly [3]jMK | |||
:236LK fly | |||
:6jLK | |||
:2MK 5HP 236LK fly | |||
:9jLP jLK | |||
:2MP 5HP 236LP dash 5LP 5LK 2MP 5HP 236LK 236PP | |||
| damage=5,941 | |||
| meter=2 | |||
| location=Anywhere | |||
| charspecific=Universal | |||
| description= * Easy confirm off of reversal Buer Thresher | |||
* Hold [3] longer for the side switch | |||
* switch 5LP for 2LP for slightly more damage | |||
* do 5MK in place of the last 2MP in the corner for slightly more damage | |||
| video=[https://youtu.be/3iNjS8AbYyI (video)] | |||
|}} | |||
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* Optimal Universal pure midscreen route | * Optimal Universal pure midscreen route | ||
* If 2MK start it deals 8,930 damage | * If 2MK start it deals 8,930 damage | ||
* M Nail may require a very slight delay to prevent the combo from immediately advancing to stage 4, which will cause the 9jMK to trigger IPS | |||
| video=[https://youtu.be/B5TDjzPIvyU?t=2m9s (video)] | | video=[https://youtu.be/B5TDjzPIvyU?t=2m9s (video)] | ||
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==Damage/Undizzy Ratios== | ==Damage/Undizzy Ratios== |
Latest revision as of 14:51, 9 February 2024
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Hit Confirms
BnB Combos
Beginner
A basic ground chain combo ending in sweep
2LK 2MK 2HK
A basic ground chain combo ending in a special cancel
2LK 2MK 5HP 236MK
A basic ground chain combo ending in a special cancel
2LK 2MK 5HP 236LK 236PP
A basic combo that utilizes fly cancels. After the air chain you can choose to go for a reset with throw or fly 3jLK.
2LK 2MK 5HP 236LK fly 9jLP jLK 2LK 2MK 5HP 236LK 236PP
Intermediate
Notation | Damage | Meter Cost | Location | Character Specific? | Notes | Video |
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7,433 |
1 |
Anywhere |
Universal |
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8,651 |
1 |
Corner |
Universal |
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Conversions
- Ground confirms
- Nothing combos off of max range 2LK other than 236MK, can be hard to hitconfirm. 2MK doesn't reach as far as 2LK so if you are worried about it dropping do 2LK 5HP 236LK instead.
- Throw starter combo
- To save OTG: fly cancel into jMK, land into buttons or 236LK.
- To save Undizzy at the cost of OTG (midscreen): 236K fast fall (cancel throw into j236K quickly) dash up into moves.
- You can save both Undizzy and OTG with a bit more difficulty (Midscreen): 236K fast fall (cancel throw into j236K quickly) walk or dash up 2MK 5HP 236LK. Although most of Painwheel's buttons can work for the OTGless restands, this one is the optimal starter.
- Air throw starter combo
- Air throw and ground throw are effectively identical. One sends slightly further away but it's negligible.
- Anti-air confirms
- 5MP: jump, recognize what side you are on, jMK fly jMK land into buttons.
- 236HK: j236KK unless close to corner.
- Off air to airs
- jMP, fly, jMK, fly, jMK, land into buttons
- jHP is same as above, or j236KK, or 236LK if near the corner.
Enders
Your optimal ender string will mostly change depending on screen positioning and whether or not you have OTG available.
All of the following enders are notated starting with 2LP for optimal damage, but keep in mind that 5LP is 4 frames faster and has a more reliable hitbox for the cost of only 25 damage at full scaling. If you're ever worried about dropping the combo, don't hesitate to start your string with 5LP instead.
- Anywhere, no OTG (2045 damage)
2LP 5LK 2MP 5HP 236LK 236PP
- Anywhere, OTG available (2165 damage)*
2LP 5LK 2MP 6HKx4 236LK(OTG) 236PP
- Corner, no OTG (2069 damage)
2LP 5LK 5MK 5HP 236LK 236PP
- Corner, OTG available (2189 damage)
2LP 5LK 5MK 6HKx4 236LK(OTG) 236PP
- Corner, meterless ender (1213 damage)
2LP 5LK 2MP 6HKx4 236HK fly j236LK(burstable)
- Anywhere, double thresher ender (2581 damage) (example)
2LP 5LK 2MP 6HKx4 236HK 236KK fly 236KK
*Some characters can also be hit by 2MP 6HKx4 236LK without OTG, so you can do a bit of extra damage if you can time your 236LK correctly.
Characters it works on:
- Eliza
- Peacock
- Painwheel
- Valentine
- Parasoul
- Double
- Beowulf
- Umbrella
- Annie
- Black Dahlia
Tips & Tricks
Combos By Starter
Some videos may show a slightly different combo and/or damage number, due to either old version differences or slight adjustments made by the editor.
2LK
Notation | Damage | Meter Cost | Location | Character Specific? | Notes | Video |
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7,433 |
1 |
Anywhere |
Universal |
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8,138 |
1 |
Anywhere |
Universal |
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8,481 |
1 |
Midscreen |
Universal |
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7,997 |
1 |
Midscreen |
Universal |
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8,651 |
1 |
Corner |
Universal |
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8,890 |
1 |
Corner |
Lights only |
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8,848 |
1 |
Corner |
Universal |
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9,141 |
1 |
Corner |
Lights only |
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Throw
Notation | Damage | Meter Cost | Location | Character Specific? | Notes | Video |
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6,080 |
1 |
Anywhere |
Universal |
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7,300 |
1 |
Corner |
Universal |
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2[HP]
Notation | Damage | Meter Cost | Location | Character Specific? | Notes | Video |
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8,411-8,455 |
1 |
Anywhere |
Universal |
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8,638 |
1 |
Midscreen to Corner |
Universal |
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Hatred Install(214KK)
Notation | Damage | Meter Cost | Location | Character Specific? | Notes | Video |
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10,893 |
3 |
Anywhere |
Universal |
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11,004 |
3 |
Anywhere |
Universal |
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11,106 |
3 |
Corner |
Universal |
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11,274 |
3 |
Corner |
Universal |
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11,606 |
3 |
Corner |
Universal |
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Buer Overdrive
Notation | Damage | Meter Cost | Location | Character Specific? | Notes | Video |
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8,087 |
4 |
Anywhere |
Universal |
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Buer Thresher
Notation | Damage | Meter Cost | Location | Character Specific? | Notes | Video |
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5,941 |
2 |
Anywhere |
Universal |
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Counter Hit Punishes
Notation | Damage | Meter Cost | Location | Character Specific? | Notes | Video |
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9,076 |
1 |
Anywhere |
Universal |
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9,764 |
1 |
Midscreen |
Universal |
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10,053 |
1 |
Corner |
Universal |
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Double Snap
Notation | Damage | Meter Cost | Location | Character Specific? | Notes | Video |
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N/A |
1 |
Corner |
Damage/Undizzy Ratios
Move | Damage/undizzy | Damage (max scaling) | Undizzy |
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236K | 19.25 | 385 | 20 |
236MP/HP (lvl3) | 17.5 | 350 | 20 |
j.[HP] | 13.33333333 | 400 | 30 |
j.MP | 11.75 | 235 | 20 |
5MK | 11 | 220 | 20 |
2[HP] | 10.53333333 | 316 | 30 |
236MP/HP (lvl2) | 10.5 | 210 | 20 |
5[HP] | 10.06666667 | 302 | 30 |
6HK | 10 | 300 | 30 |
2MP | 9.8 | 196 | 20 |
j.HP | 9.666666667 | 290 | 30 |
2[HK] | 9.166666667 | 275 | 30 |
j.HK | 9 | 270 | 30 |
5HK | 8 | 240 | 30 |
5MP | 6.75 | 135 | 20 |
2MK | 6.5 | 130 | 20 |
236LP | 6.5 | 130 | 20 |
j.MK | 6.5 | 130 | 20 |
2HP | 6.333333333 | 190 | 30 |
5HP | 6 | 180 | 30 |
2HK | 6 | 180 | 30 |
5LK | 5 | 75 | 15 |
j.LK | 4.666666667 | 70 | 15 |
2LP | 4.333333333 | 65 | 15 |
2LK | 4.333333333 | 65 | 15 |
j.LP | 4.333333333 | 65 | 15 |
236MP/HP (lvl1) | 3.5 | 70 | 20 |
5LP | 2.666666667 | 40 | 15 |