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*'''Terrible Specials''': Even for joke character standards, a lot of F-NAC's specials are downright garbage. A lot of them are horrendously slow and can generally be disrespected in neutral. | *'''Terrible Specials''': Even for joke character standards, a lot of F-NAC's specials are downright garbage. A lot of them are horrendously slow and can generally be disrespected in neutral. | ||
*'''Weak, Almost Non-Existent Neutral''': Due to F-NAC's hurtboxes and generally poor specials, he cannot really play neutral, only a very poor keepaway/stalling game with j.236A. | *'''Weak, Almost Non-Existent Neutral''': Due to F-NAC's hurtboxes and generally poor specials, he cannot really play neutral, only a very poor keepaway/stalling game with j.236A. | ||
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|description=NAC turns his arm into a claw and pinches at an angle of 35° upwards, hits | |description=NAC turns his arm into a claw and pinches at an angle of 35° upwards, hits three times and launches on hit. Mostly used as a pressure tool, its first hit being jump cancellable on block opens up interesting possibilities. Unlike C/H-Nac's 5[B], F-Nac is unable to repeatedly pinch by mashing B after the initial attack. However, this is not a huge loss given the limited utility of 5[B]~B(N). </br>Despite apparences, 5B does not work very well as a grounded anti-air: it's too slow, it will often trade or downright lose to a jump-in due to its extended hurtbox, it doesn't reach high enough and whiffing it leaves you open for ages. | ||
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|description=NAC changes his leg into a monstrous mouth, hits 4 times and launches on hit. This move's ability to [[Melty_Blood/Glossary#Frame_Trap|frametrap]] after 2B and into 3C makes it a cornerstone of F-NAC's blockstrings. Also used in post-airthrow corner okizeme as it catches jump outs and beats low shield. Important to 214C combos when the standard followup | |description=NAC changes his leg into a monstrous mouth, hits 4 times and launches on hit. This move's ability to [[Melty_Blood/Glossary#Frame_Trap|frametrap]] after 2B and into 3C makes it a cornerstone of F-NAC's blockstrings. Also used in post-airthrow corner okizeme as it catches jump outs and beats low shield. Important to 214C combos when too far for the standard 5A 2C followup. Rarely seen in combos otherwise due to its high proration and low damages.</br>Outside of blockstrings, 5C is a really risky button: if whiffed you'll be unable to act for almost a full second with an extended hurtbox out. On a hard read, 5C can be used in neutral to catch people jumping or airdashing at F-NAC, but be mindful of how risky this is. | ||
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|description=Three adorable small kicks, hits low | |description=Three adorable small kicks, hits low three times. Tied with 5A for F-NAC's fastest attack but has a slightly longer range. Your main combo starter, really easy to hitconfirm. Key button for your 50/50 and fuzzies out of j.B. Would be an all-around amazing normal if not for NAC's size, still really good by NAC's standards.</br>While rather slow for a 2A, NAC's 2A is the most active 2A in the game with a total of 9 active frames. This means pressing 2A is at least a 17f commitment, which is significantly more than most of the cast. Thankfully, 2A can be backdash cancelled even on whiff, giving you full invincibility as soon as the active frames end. | ||
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|description=Centipede, hits low | |description=Centipede, hits low three times. The first hit knocks the opponent down, the other two hits launch. An overall really important button for F-NAC, it recovers quite fast and has decent horizontal range making it one of your most usable button in neutral. Used in blockstrings and in most combos. 2B's first hit is the only reliable way for F-NAC to get okizeme access outside of Ground/Air Throw. While a 2B(1) ender gives you the best possibilities for oki (22A crow, safejump, etc..) it comes with a tradeoff in damage as it means completely forgoing your air combo. | ||
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|description=An adorable aerial little poke that doesn't hit high. Has an impressive disjoint for a fast j.A that cancels into itself. Shines when used as a rising button to anti-air. Harder to utilize as an air-to-air because of its poor range due to NAC's size, although it can totally do the job if the situation is right. Like j.C | |description=An adorable aerial little poke that doesn't hit high. Has an impressive disjoint for a fast j.A that cancels into itself. Shines when used as a rising button to anti-air. Harder to utilize as an air-to-air because of its poor range due to NAC's size, although it can totally do the job if the situation is right. Like j.C workable for air tick throws in the right situation.</br>Doesn't look like much but a rather impressive button. | ||
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|circuit=5.9%, 6.3% (12.2%) | |circuit=5.9%, 6.3% (12.2%) | ||
|cancel=N, SP, EX, J | |cancel=N, SP, EX, J | ||
|guard= | |guard=HA | ||
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|description=Tentacle, hits high twice. | |description=Tentacle, hits high twice. Your only jumping overhead and consequently your best jump-in, overall one of F-NAC's most important button: used in combos, neutral, as an air-to-air and the closest thing this character gets to a high-low mixup. On some occasion can crossup.</br>Like almost every F-NAC normal it extends his hurtbox before the hitboxes appear which means j.B will rarely trade positively and you'll often get counterhit of its startup both by air-to-airs and by grounded move with a decent vertical hitbox (whether they have upper-body invulnerability or not). | ||
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|circuit=2.7%*3, 4.5% (12.6) | |circuit=2.7%*3, 4.5% (12.6) | ||
|cancel=SP, EX, J | |cancel=SP, EX, J | ||
|guard= | |guard=LHA | ||
|startup=9 | |startup=9 | ||
|active={{Tooltip | text=8| hovertext=4 hits. 3, 2, 2, 1}} | |active={{Tooltip | text=8| hovertext=4 hits. 3, 2, 2, 1}} | ||
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|description=NAC turns his leg into a giant mantis claw, hits mid twice. Unlike Nero's 4C, both hits are air blockable. However NAC's 3C | |description=NAC turns his leg into a giant mantis claw, hits mid twice. Unlike Nero's 4C, both hits are air blockable. However, neither hits of NAC's 3C whiff on crouchers.</br>Key button for F-NAC both in pressure and in neutral. Important as a frametrap after 5C to catch jump-outs. Your best moves to end pressure with as it allows you to safely return to neutral. Does not function well as an anti-air (slow, air blockable and the first hit doesn't contest well airborne opponents), 3C works best as a tool to control space.</br>Outside of counterhits or situations where only 3C(2) connects, not very rewarding on hit: only leads to j.8 dj.8 j.C, still gives you an opportunity to charge some meter.</br>However, like many FNAC moves it has some pretty glaring flaws: it significantly extends your hurtboxes before being active and it has a noticeable blind spot in front of FNAC.</br>Must be low-shielded, which can catch people off-guard. | ||
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|description=Same animation as 5B. Terrible against jump-ins, will often just straight-up whiff. | |description=Same animation as 5B. Terrible against jump-ins, will often just straight-up whiff. In most situations 623A is a better shield follow-up than this. | ||
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|invuln={{Tooltip | text=Strike 1-7| hovertext=1-15 Strike invicibility on whiff.}} | |invuln={{Tooltip | text=Strike 1-7| hovertext=1-15 Strike invicibility on whiff.}} | ||
|description=Standard NECO bunker, significantly smaller hitbox than what the animation suggests.</br>NAC bunker has an unique oddity: when done outside blockstun, it's first frame can be cancelled into any multi-button input (grab, dash or charge). Due to how the game handles inputs, this is only usable if 214D clashes on its first frame as the cancel window is extended during clashstop. This allows NAC to cancel bunker into a strike invincibile dash and get a combo. Do note that getting a raw bunker to clash on its first frame can only reliably done on meaty attacks when waking up. | |description=Standard NECO bunker, significantly smaller hitbox than what the animation suggests.</br>NAC bunker has an unique oddity: when done outside blockstun, it's first frame can be cancelled into any multi-button input (grab, dash or meter charge). Due to how the game handles inputs, this is only usable if 214D clashes on its first frame as the cancel window is extended during clashstop. This allows NAC to cancel bunker into a strike invincibile dash and get a combo. Do note that getting a raw bunker to clash on its first frame can only reliably done on meaty attacks when waking up. | ||
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|description=NAC jumps higher, hits further and covers more space but leaves a bigger blind spot up-close. More importantly, 13 frames slower than the A version makes B Beam a big commitment in | |description=NAC jumps higher, hits further and covers more space but leaves a bigger blind spot up-close. More importantly, 13 frames slower than the A version makes B Beam a big commitment in neutral and a huge risk in pressure. Especially if you lack the meter to IH or EX cancel into j.214C. Can be safely used after a midscreen AT combo-ender to keep your opponent on their toes, however 3C is a much less high-commitment option for that purpose.</br>Notably has a lot less pushback on block than A Beam. If you get your opponent to overly respect 236A, feel free to go for 236B instead to extend pressure. Do note that while F-NAC prefers being above the opponent, being -11 in such a position is far from ideal and a knowledgeable opponent will take advantage of that. | ||
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|startup= | |startup=3+54 | ||
|active=29 | |active=29 | ||
|recovery=16 | |recovery=16 | ||
|frameAdv={{Tooltip | text=0| hovertext=If they block the last beam.}} | |frameAdv={{Tooltip | text=0| hovertext=If they block the last beam.}} | ||
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|description=NAC shoots a beam all across the ground starting from behind him. Horribly long startup made even worse by the fact that NAC starts by shooting where the opponent most likely is not. Technically if they block the very last hitbox of the super, which is easy to setup | |description=NAC shoots a beam all across the ground starting from behind him. Horribly long startup made even worse by the fact that NAC starts by shooting where the opponent most likely is not. Technically even on block if they block the very last hitbox of the super, which is rather easy to setup after a 2B knockdown, but you have much better uses for your meter and your knockdowns. You most likely shouldn't bother with that super. | ||
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|description=NAC unleashes a flurry of lightning fast blows with his cigarette. Has the unique property of having an incredibly high hitstun multiplier on counterhit, enough to follow it up with a full combo even on grounded opponents.</br>Outside of specific cases such as hitting an extended hurtbox or trading with another attack, 623X's extended CH hitstun often gets overwritten by its next hit. | |||
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|description= | |description=Overall most useful version. Fast and really active. Strong defensive move that shines in scramble situations, you'll want to use that move often. Surprisingly strong anti-air, but still loses to some of the more disjointed jump-ins. +5 on block when done point blank, however the pushback doesn't allow F-NAC to reliably frametrap into anything. 623A 2B/2C still makes up for a workable knowledge check.</br>Can be used in blockstrings as a makeshift pseudo-rebeat, only really useful after 5C and still leaves you -10 (instead of -14). | ||
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|description= | |description=Slower than the A version but has more hits and recovers even faster. No real reason to use it in neutral, due to 623A outclassing it. However, 623B is +7 on block if the last hit is blocked, this makes it an interesting option on okizeme to meaty with. | ||
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|startup= | |startup=1+9 | ||
|active=29 | |active=29 | ||
|recovery=12 | |recovery=12 | ||
|frameAdv=-20 | |frameAdv=-20 | ||
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|description= | |description=Joke move and an overall waste of meter. Slower than 623A, almost three times the recovery, deals no damage and might build the opponent a ton of meter. Can circuit break the opponent when hit point blank. When not hit point blank, might push the opponent enough for them to fall out of the move and punish you.</br>If not for the slower startup, 623C's more disjointed and larger hitbox would make for a great anti-air with good reward on CH. Significantly harder to confirm 623C's single hit CH on grounded opponents due to the move's much longer overall duration. | ||
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|description=Taxi sludge series, very active and moves NAC forwards a lot but leaves you open for ages if you whiff. For the A and B versions, the spew itself has multiples hitboxes that all hits low before NAC starts riding the sludge. | |description=Taxi sludge series, very active and moves NAC forwards a lot but leaves you open for ages if you whiff. For the A and B versions, the spew itself has multiples hitboxes that all hits low before NAC starts riding the sludge. Character defining special. | ||
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|description=The infamous B Sludge, too slow to be used in combos but + | |description=The infamous B Sludge, too slow to be used in combos but +3 on block. Gimmicky pressure tool that can be looped in blockstrings. Very vulnerable to bunker or a well-timed shield.</br>Overall mostly a knowledge check but still usable on an opponent that did their homework if they lack the meter to bunker to force them into a shield RPS. Very funny against H-Moon characters to drain their meter. | ||
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|description=Like 214A a combo tool, central to F-NAC's highest damage combos. Combos midscreen from 2A 2C, much easier to hitconfirm than A sludge. | |description=Like 214A a combo tool, central to F-NAC's highest damage combos. Combos midscreen from 2A 2C, much easier to hitconfirm than A sludge. Advances you a lot during superflash, this combined with its rather fast startup makes it a decent punish tool. If you're not using your meter to IH or stall for time with 22C, you're most likely sinking it in 214C. | ||
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|description=EX Sludge finishing move, wallslams on hit. Will often whiff if 214C is used | |description=EX Sludge's finishing move, wallslams on hit. Will often whiff if 214C is used to juggle an airborne opponent or as an OTG pickup, often dropping the combo. | ||
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|description= | |description=Giant Kaleidostick falls from the sky. Single hit last arc that hits everywhere on the screen, active on its very first frame but only for that single frame.</br>Beware, if your opponent manages to use invulnerability through the hit, you are vulnerable during the entire recovery. | ||
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Overview
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General Gameplan
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Neutral
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Combos
Combo Notation Help | |
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Disclaimer: Combos are written by various writers, so the actual notation used in pages can differ from the standard one. | |
X > Y | X input is cancelled into Y. |
X > delay Y | Must wait for a short period before cancelling X input into Y. |
X, Y | X input is linked into Y, meaning Y is done after X's recovery period. |
X+Y | Buttons X and Y must be input simultaneously. |
X/Y | Either the X or Y input can be used. |
X~Y | This notation has two meanings.
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X(w) | X input must not hit the opponent (Whiff). |
j.X | X input is done in the air, implies a jump/jump cancel if the previous move was done from the ground. Applies to all air chain sections:
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sj.X | X input is done after a super jump. Notated as sj8.X and sj9.X for neutral and forward super jumps respectively. |
dj.X | X input is done after a double jump. |
sdj.X | X input is done after a double super jump. |
tk.X | Stands for Tiger Knee. X motion must be buffered before jumping, inputting the move as close to the ground as possible. (ex. tk.236A) |
(X) | X is optional. Typically the combo will be easier if omitted. |
[X] | Input X is held down. Also referred to as Blowback Edge (BE). Depending on the character, this can indicate that this button is held down and not released until indicated by the release notation. |
]X[ | Input X is released. Will only appear if a button is previously held down. This type of input is referred to as Negative Edge. |
{X} | Button X should only be held down briefly to get a partially charged version instead of the fully charged one. |
X(N) | Attack "X" should only hit N times. |
(XYZ)xN | XYZ string must be performed N times. Combos using this notation are usually referred to as loops. |
(XYZ^) | A pre-existing combo labelled XYZ is inserted here for shortening purposes. |
CH | The first attack must be a Counter Hit. |
Air CH | The first attack must be a Counter Hit on an airborne opponent. |
66 | Performs a ground forward dash. |
j.66 | Performs an aerial forward dash, used as a cancel for certain characters' air strings. |
IAD/IABD | Performs an Instant AirDash. |
AT | Performs an Air Throw. (j.6/4A+D) |
IH | Performs an Initiative Heat. |
AD | Performs an Arc Drive. |
AAD | Performs an Another Arc Drive. |
Starter
Enders
OTG Pick ups
Normal Combos
Corner Combos
Move Descriptions
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Header | Tooltip |
Move Box Colors |
Light gray = Collision Box (A move lacking one means it can go through the opponent's own collision box). |
Damage | Base damage done by this attack.
(X) denotes combined and scaled damage tested against standing V. Sion. |
Red Damage | Damage done to the recoverable red health bar by this attack. The values are inherently scaled and tested against standing V. Sion.
(X) denotes combined damage. |
Proration | The correction value set by this attack and the way it modifies the scaling during a string. See this page for more details.
X% (O) means X% Overrides the previous correction value in a combo if X is of a lower percentage. |
Circuit | Meter gained by this attack on hit.
(X%) denotes combined meter gain. |
Cancel | Actions this move can be cancelled into.
SE = Self cancelable. |
Guard | The way this move must be blocked.
L = Can block crouching |
Startup | Amount of frames that must pass prior to reaching the active frames. Also referred to as "True Startup". |
Active | The amount of frames that this move will have a hitbox. (x) denotes frame gaps where there are no hitboxes is present. Due to varied blockstuns, (x) frames are difficult to use to determine punish windows. Generally the larger the numbers, the more time you have to punish. |
Recovery | Frames that this move has after the active frames if not canceled. The character goes into one frame where they can block but not act afterwards, which is not counted here. |
Advantage | The difference in frames where you can act before your opponent when this move is blocked (assuming the move isn't canceled and the first active frame is blocked). If the opponent uses a move with startup that is at least 2 frames less than this move's negative advantage, it will result in the opponent hitting that move. |
Invul | Lists any defensive properties this move has.
X y~z denotes X property happening between the y to z frames of the animations. If no frames are noted, it means the invincibility lasts through the entire move. Invicibility:
Hurtbox-Based Properties:
Miscellaneous Properties
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Normal Moves
Standing Normals
5A
5B
5C
Crouching normals
2A
2B
2C
2C
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Jumping Normals
j.A
j.B
j.C
Command Normals
3C
6C
Universal Mechanics
Ground Throw
Ground Throw
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Air Throw
Air Throw
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Shield Counter
Shield Counter
236D after a successful Shield (Air OK) |
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Shield Bunker
Shield Bunker
214D in neutral or blockstun |
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Blood Heat
Blood Heat
A+B+C during MAX |
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Circuit Spark
Circuit Spark
A+B+C during hitstun/blockstun at MAX |
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Special Moves
Grounded Specials
236X
623X
214X
22X
Aerial Specials
j.236X
Nero Chaos Theater "Bird"
j.236A/B/C |
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j.214X
Arc Drives
624C
Meowsey Roll JC
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426C
Dusk of the Cat
41236C |
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Another Arc Drive
Cat's Repayment Super Curse
41236C during Blood Heat |
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Last Arc
Summoning! Kaleidostick Strike
Grounded EX Shield during Blood Heat |
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