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Multi-hit. 2 xN
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Multi-hit. 2 xN
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Revision as of 05:18, 3 July 2022
Character Page Progress
Additional Resources
F-P.Ciel Match Video Database
TexasTim's F-PCiel Video Guides Playlist. Many of TexasTim's routes are more CMV style combos with either impractical execution or significant downsides such as generating large amounts of meter for your opponent. Players interested in more practical or entry-level combos may prefer to learn the routes listed in the combo section further below.
Overview
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Pros | Cons |
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Players to watch/ask
Name | Color | Region | Common Venues | Status | Details |
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Kouki | Japan | Play Spot BIG ONE 2nd | Inactive | C-Arc legend with a surprisingly good pocket F-PCiel. The most technical F-PCiel player by a considerable margin, with excellent conversions and high consistency at the character's more advanced combo routes. Currently retired due to personal circumstances. | |
Hirohiro (ひろひろ) | Japan | Play Spot BIG ONE 2nd | Inactive | The most prolific arcade F-PCiel main. Fairly aggressive and mobile for an F-PCiel player, using a lot of ground dash and 623B to rapidly reposition. Tends to stick to more basic, practical routes, focusing more on consistency rather than maximization of reward. Retired to play DBFZ. | |
Sunohara (すのはら) | Japan | A-Cho | Inactive | A very old school PCiel player who has tri-mained all three PCiel moons since the release of Current Code. Has a less modern F-PCiel than the above players, relying more on strong fundamentals rather than fully exploiting the unique aspects of the character, but still very strong. | |
m | Europe | Netplay | Inactive | The top F-PCiel outside of Japan. Patient, grounded playstyle with strong meter management, and a simple okizeme flowchart focused on restricting the opponent's defensive options. Retired, but can be contacted via the Powerd Gaming server on Discord. | |
God Hand | North America | Netplay | Inactive | The former top NA F-PCiel. Plays an evasive style, using a lot of 623B and backdash to create space, then filling that space with a wall of projectiles. | |
TSA | Japan | A-Cho | Inactive | A rock minimalist who excels at using F-PCiel's more traditional tools to control space. | |
Zakuro | Japan | Inactive | A rather dated F-PCiel, but one who shows off the full depth of the character's high okizeme potential. |
General Gameplan
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Neutral
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Pressure
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Defense
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Combos
Combo Notation Help | |
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Disclaimer: Combos are written by various writers, so the actual notation used in pages can differ from the standard one. | |
X > Y | X input is cancelled into Y. |
X > delay Y | Must wait for a short period before cancelling X input into Y. |
X, Y | X input is linked into Y, meaning Y is done after X's recovery period. |
X+Y | Buttons X and Y must be input simultaneously. |
X/Y | Either the X or Y input can be used. |
X~Y | This notation has two meanings.
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X(w) | X input must not hit the opponent (Whiff). |
j.X | X input is done in the air, implies a jump/jump cancel if the previous move was done from the ground. Applies to all air chain sections:
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sj.X | X input is done after a super jump. Notated as sj8.X and sj9.X for neutral and forward super jumps respectively. |
dj.X | X input is done after a double jump. |
sdj.X | X input is done after a double super jump. |
tk.X | Stands for Tiger Knee. X motion must be buffered before jumping, inputting the move as close to the ground as possible. (ex. tk.236A) |
(X) | X is optional. Typically the combo will be easier if omitted. |
[X] | Input X is held down. Also referred to as Blowback Edge (BE). Depending on the character, this can indicate that this button is held down and not released until indicated by the release notation. |
]X[ | Input X is released. Will only appear if a button is previously held down. This type of input is referred to as Negative Edge. |
{X} | Button X should only be held down briefly to get a partially charged version instead of the fully charged one. |
X(N) | Attack "X" should only hit N times. |
(XYZ)xN | XYZ string must be performed N times. Combos using this notation are usually referred to as loops. |
(XYZ^) | A pre-existing combo labelled XYZ is inserted here for shortening purposes. |
CH | The first attack must be a Counter Hit. |
Air CH | The first attack must be a Counter Hit on an airborne opponent. |
66 | Performs a ground forward dash. |
j.66 | Performs an aerial forward dash, used as a cancel for certain characters' air strings. |
IAD/IABD | Performs an Instant AirDash. |
AT | Performs an Air Throw. (j.6/4A+D) |
IH | Performs an Initiative Heat. |
AD | Performs an Arc Drive. |
AAD | Performs an Another Arc Drive. |
The below combos are intended primarily as a starting resource for beginner F-PCiel players. I would encourage you to think of F-PCiel combos less as a strict series of inputs from start to finish and more like a series of individual chunks that you can fit together depending on the situation. F-PCiel's combo routes are very flexible, and the ability to adjust them depending on situation will come with experience and watching a lot of Hirohiro and Kouki match footage. Good luck!
Normal Combos
Corner Combos
Move Descriptions
Frame Data Help | |
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Header | Tooltip |
Move Box Colors |
Light gray = Collision Box (A move lacking one means it can go through the opponent's own collision box). |
Damage | Base damage done by this attack.
(X) denotes combined and scaled damage tested against standing V. Sion. |
Red Damage | Damage done to the recoverable red health bar by this attack. The values are inherently scaled and tested against standing V. Sion.
(X) denotes combined damage. |
Proration | The correction value set by this attack and the way it modifies the scaling during a string. See this page for more details.
X% (O) means X% Overrides the previous correction value in a combo if X is of a lower percentage. |
Circuit | Meter gained by this attack on hit.
(X%) denotes combined meter gain. |
Cancel | Actions this move can be cancelled into.
SE = Self cancelable. |
Guard | The way this move must be blocked.
L = Can block crouching |
Startup | Amount of frames that must pass prior to reaching the active frames. Also referred to as "True Startup". |
Active | The amount of frames that this move will have a hitbox. (x) denotes frame gaps where there are no hitboxes is present. Due to varied blockstuns, (x) frames are difficult to use to determine punish windows. Generally the larger the numbers, the more time you have to punish. |
Recovery | Frames that this move has after the active frames if not canceled. The character goes into one frame where they can block but not act afterwards, which is not counted here. |
Advantage | The difference in frames where you can act before your opponent when this move is blocked (assuming the move isn't canceled and the first active frame is blocked). If the opponent uses a move with startup that is at least 2 frames less than this move's negative advantage, it will result in the opponent hitting that move. |
Invul | Lists any defensive properties this move has.
X y~z denotes X property happening between the y to z frames of the animations. If no frames are noted, it means the invincibility lasts through the entire move. Invicibility:
Hurtbox-Based Properties:
Miscellaneous Properties
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Normal Moves
Standing Normals
5A
5B
5B
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5C
Crouching Normals
2A
2B
2C
Jumping Normals
Notes:
- P.Ciel's air normals cannot be canceled into other air normals, double jump, air dashes or air throw. They can still be Special/EX canceled on block, however.
- j.A does not recover in midair, P.Ciel must land before recovering if j.A isn't canceled.
j.A
j.B
j.C
Command Normals
3B
3B
3[B] |
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6B
3C
j.6C
Universal Mechanics
Ground Throw
Ground Throw
6/4A+D |
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Air Throw
Air Throw
j.6/4A+D |
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Shield Counter
Shield Counter
236D after a successful Shield (Air OK) |
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Shield Bunker
Shield Bunker
214D in neutral or blockstun |
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Blood Heat
Blood Heat
A+B+C during MAX |
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Circuit Spark
Circuit Spark
A+B+C during hitstun/blockstun at MAX |
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Special Moves
Grounded Specials
236X
Rapid Stake 236A/[A]/B/[B]/C A A [A] [A] B B [B] [B] EX EX
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623X
623A~X followup 623A~X followup
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214X
63214X
A followup A followup
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Aerial Specials
j.236X
j.236A~X followup j.236A~X followup B/EX B/EX
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j.214X
Virgin Pain (Air)
(EX: Oriflame Concert) j.214A/B/C |
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Arc Drive
Seventh Holy Scripture - Impeachment of Original Sin
41236C during Max/Heat |
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Another Arc Drive
Seventh Holy Scripture - Saint's Burial
41236C during Blood Heat |
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Last Arc
Numeral Secret Crest - Heavenly Nest
Grounded EX Shield during Blood Heat |
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